Benitez: United has spent more than us so we can't win title

Originally Posted by December_16

Tbf, he did recoup lots of it by selling deadwood players though. Net spending shouldn't be astronomical.

Originally Posted by Devil_forever

You may say "oh look we spend 20 mill on one player while he spends 20 mill on 5 shite players" The thing is though when he was building a base for the team after having gotten rid of most of the team he inherited he had no choice but to do it. He couldn't splash out big on class players to fill up the vacated places let by the mass exit. You may say now he has no excuse for spending on average/good players instead of class players but the fact of the matter is, he wanted barry for £18 mill (same as what we paid for hargo) and the board said no, so he may have no choice but to keep spending money on average crap.

Originally Posted by Skholesy

Actually. I agree with this in a way.

Consider this - fergie wants his guy, rafa wants his guy. Fergie can afford to wait because of the squad he already has. For instance, maybe not getting berbs this season may mean we finish 2nd or 3rd (although we might still, but thats not the point) - by all means, not a catastrophe.

Now consider rafa. He wants his top choice because of a gap in his squad, owners say no, but he would still need to plug in the hole. So what does he do? He has to spend on someone in the interim - he can't wait for the top choice because with that hole in the team, pool may actually slip out of the top four, maybe miss out on champs league football. Disaster!

So he buys average, then spends the next few years having to rebuild again by selling the average....the circle repeats itself.

Simply put, fergie can wait for his man or an as good alternative because the impact is not that bad on united. Rafa cant.

Although, it has to be said, maybe rafa should look to better yet cheaper stop gaps than average dross....you know, the likes of larsson, blanc, which fergie always used as stop gaps when it was required.

Originally Posted by Devil_forever

You may say "oh look we spend 20 mill on one player while he spends 20 mill on 5 shite players" The thing is though when he was building a base for the team after having gotten rid of most of the team he inherited he had no choice but to do it. He couldn't splash out big on class players to fill up the vacated places let by the mass exit. You may say now he has no excuse for spending on average/good players instead of class players but the fact of the matter is, he wanted barry for £18 mill (same as what we paid for hargo) and the board said no, so he may have no choice but to keep spending money on average crap.

Originally Posted by December_16

Tbf, he did recoup lots of it by selling deadwood players though. Net spending shouldn't be astronomical.

Originally Posted by Red-Indian

Do you really think they wouldn't manage 3rd or 4th (which is what they're going to end up with anyway) if he hadn't bought Riera and N'Gog and saved up his money for big wing buy next year? Would Finnan be any worse than that Swiss chap he's bought?

It was a panic buy and he's going to be selling these guys next year for a small profit.

Originally Posted by Maroon Lucifer

does anyone have the complete list?
There are some missing from this list like Pacheco and Nemeth and maybe more I don't know.

Originally Posted by Ander8on

Where's that table that show just how much each manager has spent since Benethus took over? What a loon, already making excuses.

Originally Posted by rotherham_red

Deadwood that he, himself, bought...

Originally Posted by Ander8on

52 players in 4 years totaling £190million - poor Liverpool

Josemi £2,000,000
Antonio Nunez £1,500,000*
Luis Garcia £6,000,000
Xabi Alonso £10,700,000
Mauricio Pellegrino Free
Fernando Morientes £6,300,000
Scott Carson £1,000,000
Antonio Barragan £240,000
Boudewijn Zenden Free*
Jose Reina £6,000,000
Mohamed Sissoko £5,600,000
Peter Crouch £7,000,000
Mark Gonzalez £1,500,000*
Jan Kromkamp Player Exchange*
Daniel Agger £5,800,000
Robbie Fowler Free
Craig Bellamy £6,000,000
Gabriel Paletta £2,000,000
Fábio Aurélio Free
Jermaine Pennant £6,700,000
Dirk Kuyt £9,000,000
Nabil El Zhar £200,000
Álvaro Arbeloa £2,500,000
Lucas Leiva £5,000,000
Sebastian Leto £1,800,000
Fernando Torres £20,200,000
Andriy Voronin Free*
Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000
Ryan Babel £11,500,000
Charles Itandje Undisclosed
Emiliano Insúa £1,300,000*
Martin Skrtel £6,500,000
Javier Mascherano £17,000,000
Philipp Degen Free*
Andrea Dossena £7,000,000
Diego Cavalieri £3,500,000
David Ngog £1,500,000
Robbie Keane £19,000,000*
Albert Riera £8,000,000

http://www.lfchistory.net/stats_tran...d =20&InOut=1

Originally Posted by Ander8on

52 players in 4 years totaling £190million - poor Liverpool

Josemi £2,000,000
Antonio Nunez £1,500,000*
Luis Garcia £6,000,000
Xabi Alonso £10,700,000
Mauricio Pellegrino Free
Fernando Morientes £6,300,000
Scott Carson £1,000,000
Antonio Barragan £240,000
Boudewijn Zenden Free*
Jose Reina £6,000,000
Mohamed Sissoko £5,600,000
Peter Crouch £7,000,000
Godwin Antwi Unknown
Miki Roque Unknown
Jack Hobbs £150,000*
Besian Idrizaj £190,000*
Mark Gonzalez £1,500,000*
Paul Anderson Player Exchange*
Jan Kromkamp Player Exchange*
Daniel Agger £5,800,000
David Martin £250,000*
Robbie Fowler Free
Craig Bellamy £6,000,000
Gabriel Paletta £2,000,000
Fábio Aurélio Free
Jermaine Pennant £6,700,000
Dirk Kuyt £9,000,000
Nabil El Zhar £200,000
Astrit Ajdarevic £750,000*
Daniele Padelli On Loan*
Jordy Brouwer Undisclosed*
Francisco Durán £66,000*
Ronald Huth Undisclosed
Álvaro Arbeloa £2,500,000
Javier Mascherano On Loan
Lucas Leiva £5,000,000
Mikel San José Domínguez £270,000
Sebastian Leto £1,800,000
Fernando Torres £20,200,000
Andriy Voronin Free*
Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000
Ryan Babel £11,500,000
Charles Itandje Undisclosed
Emiliano Insúa £1,300,000*
Martin Skrtel £6,500,000
Javier Mascherano £17,000,000
Philipp Degen Free*
Andrea Dossena £7,000,000
Diego Cavalieri £3,500,000
David Ngog £1,500,000
Robbie Keane £19,000,000*
Albert Riera £8,000,000

http://www.lfchistory.net/stats_tran...d =20&InOut=1

Originally Posted by Dublin Red

Some of the Valutions are too low. Torres was more than the quoted figure when the fact that Garcia also went as part of the deal. The £20.2 million fee values Garcia at zero. Liverpool purchased him for £6 Million.

The £14 million payed for Cisse is not included, The deal for cisse was agreed berfore Benitez became manager but he sanctioned the deal to go ahead and the payment of the fee was under his tenure.


Mark Gonazales is valued at 1.5 million on that site . Neutral sites list his fee at £4.5 million.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_de...playerid=36137


There are a couple of Players missing but they are mostly fringe players that signed for free or there are no reliable figures for. Damien Plessis,Francisco Manuel Duran,David Martin ,Nabil El Zhar, Paul Anderson,Jack Hobbs, Godwin Antwi. The would not affect the financial figures all that much but are signings none the less.

Originally Posted by thoward

Plus Rooneys fee will go to a maximum of £27 million i think. Typical Benitez infalting Uniteds fees. He said Torres cost £20 million but that could rise to £26 million. Nanis' fee could rise to £17 million and Anderson £20 million but thats after lots of things taken into consideration. And he forgot about the £19 million he paid for Mascherano.

Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

The fact that he's got rid of 16 of 39 players says it all.

And no one will be surprised to see players like Ngog, Degen, Cavalieri, Insua, Benayoun, Arbeola, Kuyt, Pennant and Aurelio leaving sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by Richter

Rafa Benitez believes nobody should expect Liverpool to win The Premier League.

Originally Posted by Smith Cove

Yeah, but that extra six million only kicks in if they win trophies. He's a crafty fucker Benitez, found himself a way of getting Torres on the cheap.

Originally Posted by AttackingFlair

United and City play around £30m (more for City) for an individual top player. Liverpool spend £28m on two players (Keane £20m, Riera £8m). Benitez clearly had the money there and he can't complain about having to split the budget to sign two players because of lack of squad depth because look at City, they could do with strengthening in most positions but they chose to buy a top class player instead.

Originally Posted by Dublin Red

Some of the Valutions are too low. Torres was more than the quoted figure when the fact that Garcia also went as part of the deal. The £20.2 million fee values Garcia at zero. Liverpool purchased him for £6 Million.

Originally Posted by Dublin Red

Mark Gonazales is valued at 1.5 million on that site . Neutral sites list his fee at £4.5 million.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_de...playerid=36137

Originally Posted by ecantona7

City bought a top class player because the owners wanted to start things off with a big bang and get their name out there in the open. This way people would be speculating and throwing big names out there until the january transfer window. Also, by buying robinho they have shown that they are actually gonna buy some class players and not just spout the usual garbage owners throw around when they first buy a team. Although his comments about being bigger than united and madrid in the future are moronic.