Best CMs in the league

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:17

Who are your picks for the best central midfielders in the league this season?

And no, I don't want your Silva's or your Mata's, they're not midfielders, certainly not central midfielders.

For me, if I had to pick three, it would probably be Modric, our own Michael Carrick, and either one of Parker/Song.

Crustanoid · 3rd February 2012, 10:19

Yaya Toure should be in there

mufcwarm92 · 3rd February 2012, 10:20

Modric and Toure stand above the others. Carrick is in with a shout for 3rd given his form this season, but with everyone fit I'd prefer Wilshere.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Crustanoid

Yaya Toure should be in there

I don't think so. He was better last season IMO.

Fades out of matches around the 60-minute mark, and has not been very good at all in their crunch matches.

stubie1234 · 3rd February 2012, 10:21

Parker has to be up there, he has settled in well at Spurs. Also Ramsey has looked good at times for Arsenal.

But Tiote has stood out like a sore thumb with some excellent displays for Newcastle.

Annihilate Now! · 3rd February 2012, 10:21

Yaya Toure, Cabaye, Modric

Think that's a midfield that compliments each other quiet nicely.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:22

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Originally Posted by mufcwarm92

Modric and Toure stand above the others. Carrick is in with a shout for 3rd given his form this season, but with everyone fit I'd prefer Wilshere.

This season, the OP says. This season, Wilshere has been playing Playstation, while Touré has been busy complaining about clear cut free-kicks, and hacking people down because he's too tired to track them properly.

SharkyMcShark · 3rd February 2012, 10:28

Modric, Carrick, Toure, Meireles

In that order.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:29

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Modric, Carrick, Toure, Meireles

In that order.

Meireles? Really?

Some of you ought to have a word with yourselves. No wonder you think our CM is inferior to pretty much everything else when you mention people like Cabaye and Tioté.

Cabaye has been a good signing, but come on, he's not been outstanding the way a Michael Carrick or a Modric has been this season.

And I won't agree with anyone claiming Yaya Touré has had some sort of brilliant season. In fact, I think James Milner has been much, much better when deployed in CM.

CnutOfAllCnuts · 3rd February 2012, 10:30

The best midfielders this season have been:

Carrick
Toure
Cabaye
Parker
Modric

In no particular order.

Orton · 3rd February 2012, 10:30

Whilst Toure has been away at the ACN City have struggled alot. Even with Silva in the side

Orton · 3rd February 2012, 10:31

Carrick's been brilliant this season, though i expect it to go widely unnoticed from fans of other clubs.

SharkyMcShark · 3rd February 2012, 10:32

Cabaye hasn't been as good as the plaudits he's been receiving would suggest. Very little of their play actually goes through him

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Orton

Carrick's been brilliant this season, though i expect it to go widely unnoticed from fans of other clubs.

Aye, as I said I can only think of Modric who has a real claim to have been better. Carrick's consistantly been excellent since being drafted into the team.

Cina · 3rd February 2012, 10:33

Ramires is very good, he's just in a really poor Chelsea side right now.

In terms of youth, it has to be Wilshire.

Overall? Easily Modric, then Yaya, then probably Carrick (on current form)

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:33

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Cabaye hasn't been as good as the plaudits he's been receiving would suggest. Very little of their play actually goes through him

This. Newcastle hardly utilizes their central midfield, in comparison to other teams. Him and Tioté gets stuck in a lot, especially Tioté, but on the ball they are both average and not particularly impressive.

Cabaye gets a lot of plaudits for a couple of youtube-moments. Some great goals, and THAT pass against Norwich for Ba(pass of the season, honestly, watch it).

Orton · 3rd February 2012, 10:34

We've also looked far more in control of our matches since his return. We were conceding far too many chances with the gung-ho style adopted at the start of the season as pleasing as it was on the eye teams were cutting right through us. Luckily we had a good keeper in the sticks.

MacMUFC · 3rd February 2012, 10:34

The standard of CMs in the Premier League is laughably poor in comparison to La Liga.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:34

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Originally Posted by Cina

Ramires is very good, he's just in a really poor Chelsea side right now.

In terms of youth, it has to be Wilshire.

Overall? Easily Modric, then Yaya, then probably Carrick (on current form)

This fucking season. Wilshere hasn't played. Ramires has been largely anonymous(due to playing in an incoherent Chelsea-side for the most part). Yaya has been.. well, good, but not outstanding. And inconsistant.

Zen · 3rd February 2012, 10:37

Like of Ramsey mentions here, he's hugely softened the blow of Wilsheres injury for Arsenal. Still not at the same level(but then again, he's not playing with Fabregas in his first proper season unlike Wilshere).

Modric is the clear answer though.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Zen

Like of Ramsey mentions here, he's hugely softened the blow of Wilsheres injury for Arsenal. Still not at the same level(but then again, he's not playing with Fabregas in his first proper season unlike Wilshere).

Modric is the clear answer though.

Ramsey has been at times good, at times he's look exhausted, and at times he's been shite(vs us for instance).

Also, he's almost played as a pure attacking midfielder this term.

For me, the pick of the bunch from Arsenal's midfield is clearly Song. Then Arteta, who's been good when he's been fit, albeit not sensational.

cw1984 · 3rd February 2012, 10:41

Mareiles?

He hasn't even been the best midfielder at Chelsea this season.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:43

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Originally Posted by cw1984

Mareiles?

He hasn't even been the best midfielder at Chelsea this season.

I'd say bar Mikel he's made a compelling case for being the worst. Why they signed him and confined McEachran to the bench... Oh my.

I mean, what excactly does he do? For all the criticism levelled at Carrick, Meireles is THE sideways passer in the league. He's just.. pointless, bar the 3-4 goals he pops up with from time to time. I'd rather have Fletcher, for instance, at least he does a job defensively and has something resembling drive and urgency.

Smores · 3rd February 2012, 10:44

Gibson

Cina · 3rd February 2012, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

This fucking season. Wilshere hasn't played. Ramires has been largely anonymous(due to playing in an incoherent Chelsea-side for the most part). Yaya has been.. well, good, but not outstanding. And inconsistant.

Whoops, missed that.

Ramires has been really good, far better than the rest of Chelsea's midfielder. And Yaya is brilliant, City have been really poor without him.

Song is a good shout too.

RedRover · 3rd February 2012, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

I don't think so. He was better last season IMO.

Fades out of matches around the 60-minute mark, and has not been very good at all in their crunch matches.

Been fantastic for City this season - no coincidence that they've had a slide in form while he's been away.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:47

Stilyan Petrov has been the best player in a terribly dull Villa-side for my money.

cw1984 · 3rd February 2012, 10:48

Top 5 performers this season:

Parker
Toure
Modric
Britton
Giggs

I'm always right · 3rd February 2012, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

I don't think so. He was better last season IMO.

Fades out of matches around the 60-minute mark, and has not been very good at all in their crunch matches.

Ahhh a new caf myth has begun I see.

This is Toure, in what, the 85th minute or something, City down to 10 men, in a CRUNCH match.

Fading out?

I'm always right · 3rd February 2012, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

Top 5 performers this season:

Parker
Toure
Modric
Britton
Giggs

How can Carrick not be in there?

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRover

Been fantastic for City this season - no coincidence that they've had a slide in form while he's been away.

People mention City's loss of form - but two of their worst performances this season, against City and Liverpool, which started the loss of form, was when he played in CM. And he was terrible in those matches.

Also, where was he at the Allianz when City needed him? Being dominated, is the answer.

In short, I don't buy into the Touré-hype. I don´t think he's got the stamina to play in CM in the PL, and perform consistantly well, and I think he's showed a shocking lack of dicipline in some of their key matches.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood

Ahhh a new caf myth has begun I see.

This is Toure, in what, the 85th minute or something, City down to 10 men, in a CRUNCH match.

Fading out?

Well, prior to that I bet he was walking around not tracking runs for 5 minutes, due to being absolutely knackered. Look it's plain to see if you watch a match.

Added to my earlier post: Terrible against Sunderland at the Stadium of Light.

I'm always right · 3rd February 2012, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

Well, prior to that I bet he was walking around not tracking runs for 5 minutes, due to being absolutely knackered. Look it's plain to see if you watch a match.

Well no he wasn't actually.

cw1984 · 3rd February 2012, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood

How can Carrick not be in there?

Because I don't think he's been better than those 5 over the course of the season... :trollface:

In seriousness, he's been very good this last 2 months or so and would be maybe 6th or 7th on my list. I think my above 5 have been better overall though.

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

Because I don't think he's been better than those 5 over the course of the season... :trollface:

In seriousness, he's been very good this last 2 months or so and would be maybe 6th or 7th on my list. I think my above 5 have been better overall though.

Carrick has been very, very good since about late october in fact.

I'm always right · 3rd February 2012, 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

Because I don't think he's been better than those 5 over the course of the season... :trollface:

In seriousness, he's been very good this last 2 months or so and would be maybe 6th or 7th on my list. I think my above 5 have been better overall though.

And yet Giggs makes your list... :trollface:

cw1984 · 3rd February 2012, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

Carrick has been very, very good since about late october in fact.

He was doing well then got shifted into defence. When he came back into midfield he needed a few games to settle down then has been very good since then (whenever that was).

I also think that, for all the under rating of Carrick, when he puts in a good performance this forum over rates him quite a bit and it becomes an amazing performance.

finneh · 3rd February 2012, 11:01

Toure
Parker
Modric
Carrick
Tiote

marjen · 3rd February 2012, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

He was doing well then got shifted into defence. When he came back into midfield he needed a few games to settle down then has been very good since then (whenever that was).

I also think that, for all the under rating of Carrick, when he puts in a good performance this forum over rates him quite a bit and it becomes an amazing performance.

I think he's not had a lot of Roy of the Rovers-performances, truly outstanding in that way, no. But he's consistantly been running games for us these last months, basically shoring up our team defensively after the City-match, then grown more and more into his now pivotal role at the heart of it all.

cw1984 · 3rd February 2012, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by marjen

I think he's not had a lot of Roy of the Rovers-performances, truly outstanding in that way, no. But he's consistantly been running games for us these last months, basically shoring up our team defensively after the City-match, then grown more and more into his now pivotal role at the heart of it all.

I would generally agree with all of that.

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marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	Best CMs in the league Who are your picks for the best central midfielders in the league this season? And no, I don't want your Silva's or your Mata's, they're not midfielders, certainly not central midfielders. For me, if I had to pick three, it would probably be Modric, our own Michael Carrick, and either one of Parker/Song.

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3rd February 2012, 10:19	#2 (permalink)
Crustanoid First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,588	Yaya Toure should be in there

3rd February 2012, 10:20	#3 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 'Michael Owen was known as the Baby Faced Assassin, but Rooney was more like the Assassin Faced Baby' Posts: 2,806	Modric and Toure stand above the others. Carrick is in with a shout for 3rd given his form this season, but with everyone fit I'd prefer Wilshere.

3rd February 2012, 10:21	#5 (permalink)
stubie1234 First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: a font of misplaced rage Posts: 6,825	Parker has to be up there, he has settled in well at Spurs. Also Ramsey has looked good at times for Arsenal. But Tiote has stood out like a sore thumb with some excellent displays for Newcastle.

3rd February 2012, 10:21	#6 (permalink)
Annihilate Now! First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Argh Posts: 7,365	Yaya Toure, Cabaye, Modric Think that's a midfield that compliments each other quiet nicely.

3rd February 2012, 10:28	#8 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,587	Modric, Carrick, Toure, Meireles In that order.

3rd February 2012, 10:30	#10 (permalink)
CnutOfAllCnuts Bald Boring Cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 29,184	The best midfielders this season have been: Carrick Toure Cabaye Parker Modric In no particular order.

3rd February 2012, 10:30	#11 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,208	Whilst Toure has been away at the ACN City have struggled alot. Even with Silva in the side

3rd February 2012, 10:31	#12 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,208	Carrick's been brilliant this season, though i expect it to go widely unnoticed from fans of other clubs.

3rd February 2012, 10:32	#13 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,587	Cabaye hasn't been as good as the plaudits he's been receiving would suggest. Very little of their play actually goes through him

3rd February 2012, 10:33	#15 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,939	Ramires is very good, he's just in a really poor Chelsea side right now. In terms of youth, it has to be Wilshire. Overall? Easily Modric, then Yaya, then probably Carrick (on current form)

3rd February 2012, 10:34	#17 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,208	We've also looked far more in control of our matches since his return. We were conceding far too many chances with the gung-ho style adopted at the start of the season as pleasing as it was on the eye teams were cutting right through us. Luckily we had a good keeper in the sticks.

3rd February 2012, 10:34	#18 (permalink)
MacMUFC Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,370	The standard of CMs in the Premier League is laughably poor in comparison to La Liga.

3rd February 2012, 10:37	#20 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	Like of Ramsey mentions here, he's hugely softened the blow of Wilsheres injury for Arsenal. Still not at the same level(but then again, he's not playing with Fabregas in his first proper season unlike Wilshere). Modric is the clear answer though.

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cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,006	Mareiles? He hasn't even been the best midfielder at Chelsea this season.

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Smores First Team Sub Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dark side of the moon Posts: 6,452	Gibson

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marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	Stilyan Petrov has been the best player in a terribly dull Villa-side for my money.

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cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,006	Top 5 performers this season: Parker Toure Modric Britton Giggs

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finneh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,756	Toure Parker Modric Carrick Tiote