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Old 27th May 2008, 11:58   #1 (permalink)
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Blatter Still Forging Ahead With Foreign Player Rule

Blatter calls for foreign limit


Fifa president Sepp Blatter is hopeful that the 'six-plus-five' rule will be in place by the start of the 2012/13 season.

Blatter believes the number of foreign players in a starting line-up should be limited to five and has been discussing the idea at Fifa's annual congress in Sydney.

He is optimistic that by 2010/11 a quota of four homegrown players to seven foreigners will be brought in, rising to six plus five two years later.

There has also been opposition from leading clubs with large numbers of foreign-born players in their ranks and those who want free-market rules to apply to football.

However, Blatter claims the plan has the backing of key European delegates and has pointed to the Premier League's dominance in the UEFA Champions League as an example of why such a rule needs to be introduced.

Stressing that Fifa would proceed 'within the limits of the law', Blatter said: "It's to make sure that there is better balance in the competitions and not only three or four teams in a league of 18 or 20 are fighting to be the champion and all the others are just there to not be relegated.

"As (Newcastle manager) Kevin Keegan recently said: 'I can only start my season to fight to be fifth or sixth or seventh. It is impossible for me to go into the final four'.

"At the end of the Champions League in Europe you have in the quarter-finals four teams of the same association; in the semi-finals three of these teams.

"We want to bring some remedies and this is the six-plus-five rule's objective."

Convinced

Blatter is confident the proposal will be accepted when the congress votes on it later this week.

"The executive committee unanimously supported the proposed resolution concerning the six-plus-five rule," he said.

"We've had confirmation by all the confederations, including Europe, that everybody favours the objectives of the six-plus-five.

"I'm convinced, now the confederations are in favour of such a proposed solution, it is a possibility.

"But we should do it not (with) confrontation but in discussions to try and find a solution.

"We would start, step by step, with four plus seven in 2010 and then 2011 five (plus six), then 2012 six (plus five)."

Blatter added: "We've just seen Manchester United's starting XI in Moscow with six players eligible for the English team on the pitch.

"And they won. Not bad."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...616511,00.html
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He doesn't get it...
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Blatter added: "We've just seen Manchester United's starting XI in Moscow with six players eligible for the English team on the pitch.

"And they won. Not bad." ...
But that was a nice point.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:00   #4 (permalink)
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This is ridiculous. Why weren't they doing this when Italian and Spanish clubs absolutely dominated? But because it's English clubs in the ascendency, he needs to do his utmost to cripple them.

Also, this will fuck up other leagues, too. Inter had one Italian in the line-up when they played Liverpool, and Barca had two Spaniards in the return leg against us (Iniesta and Xavi).

So unless he brings this rule in only to affect English clubs (which wouldn't actually surprise me), then he's going to fuck up a lot of teams in Europe.
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I think it would be much better for football if this rule was brought in, but EU Law doesn't allow and I can't see it happening.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:01   #6 (permalink)
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Fanny blatter, ol rent a quote.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:06   #7 (permalink)
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Barca had two Spaniards in the return leg against us (Iniesta and Xavi).
Valdes, Puyol, plus Bojan
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Valdes, Puyol, plus Bojan
Ok, 4 and a half.
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Valdes, Puyol, plus Bojan
Yeh, sorry, three.

Substitutes don't count, clearly (hence six plus five), so Bojan doesn't count.

But still, three (Xavi, Iniesta, Valdes) is only half what they'd need.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:13   #10 (permalink)
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Blatter focusing on the wrong issues in football... as usual. Maybe he should do something about Madrid basically having their own tabloid newspaper to unsettle players for now.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:41   #11 (permalink)
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Blatter might find that his position is not as secure as he thinks it is if the big clubs really feel threatened.

The methods he has used to obtain votes can be used by others against him.

There is a lot of money spread throughout the footballing world by Europe's buying power, and if he turns that tap off the knives will be out.
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Old 27th May 2008, 12:44   #12 (permalink)
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I agree with Blatter that something should be done, but it should be done at a squad level, not a starting XI level.

I.e. restrict a club's squad to 25 players, of which half has to be from the country of the club.
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Maybe Abramovitch will bung him a million and he'll fuck off.
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Listening to Keegan is just wrong
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:07   #15 (permalink)
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so, he's in effect dictating the starting lineup of a team?

something about this doesn't feel right.
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:16   #16 (permalink)
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so, he's in effect dictating the starting lineup of a team?

something about this doesn't feel right.
Exactly

Should be done at a squad level
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It will be really difficult to manage your players when your local lads know they will probably get into the team not because of ability and performance but because of a legislation. I'm all for having more locals but 6-5 is stretching it really.. There should be a better way of doing this, but it's not up to me since I don't get paid to do so
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:21   #18 (permalink)
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Maximum size of squad: 25 players

- Min. 12 of the players has to be from the same nation as the club.
- Min. 5 of the players, irrespective of Nationality, has to have been with the club since the age of 16.
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thats arsenal and chelsea fucked
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Have to be done over a number of seasons, can't just make the change over night.
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thats arsenal and chelsea fucked
Not Chelsea.
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Completely fuck up the transfer market in this country

Players like Woodgate, Bentley etc will end up being bought for £30m.

Plus the 90 minute rule will fuck it up completely.

I think we'd end up dominating domestically again but would screw us in europe
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:26   #23 (permalink)
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Fuck off Blatter you tool. Quotas for players is retarded and totally unjustified.

Stop crying about English clubs doing well and take a look at what's going on in the country you've decided to hold the World Cup in. Which is the bigger problem?
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Part of me wants to see this rule happen just so I can watch Arsenal struggle.
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I think we'd end up dominating domestically again but would screw us in europe
Would be the same for all clubs all over Europe.
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Completely fuck up the transfer market in this country

Players like Woodgate, Bentley etc will end up being bought for £30m.

Plus the 90 minute rule will fuck it up completely.

I think we'd end up dominating domestically again but would screw us in europe
No, it wouldn't. We normally have 4 or 5 English players starting.
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Having 6 English players (I'm assuming Welsh, Scottish and N.Irish players won't count) in each and every starting line-up is going to be close to impossible for many Prem clubs and very, very difficult for all Prem clubs.

The idea is a nonsense.

However, Arsenal will be hit the hardest, so I guess every cloud has a silver lining.
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No, it wouldn't. We normally have 4 or 5 English players starting.
6 actually - if you take this season
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Having 6 English players (I'm assuming Welsh, Scottish and N.Irish players won't count) in each and every starting line-up is going to be close to impossible for many Prem clubs and very, very difficult for all Prem clubs.
Why?

And I assume Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish will count, as they have the same passport as English players.
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6 actually - if you take this season
7 next season, if Foster stays fit.
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:33   #31 (permalink)
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Agree with Blatter completely.

My kids in an academy - and I'm just happy that it's not in the big four of the prem.

Why?

Because he'd only be training 7 hours maximum per week compared with 15 hours AVERAGE in continental clubs.....which is exactly why Man U, Chelsea etc shop abroad for a quick fix rather than bother to invest properly.

Thats why the England team are shite, and why our kids will never really be able to compete properly unless it really changes. More contact time, better coaches, no colour / athletic / thug bias

Thats why you lot are scared because the choice is-

a) More investment in our OWN academies (contact time, core skills, diet, )

OR

b) Spunking money on other clubs ready made (to international spec) talents


If Blatters gets his way, get ready to see local lads (with passing ability) come through. If he doesn't, expect a billion more ignorant threads asking for Capello's heads each time we fail to qualify.
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