Bojan.

ricardinho · 15th May 2008, 19:53

Has asked Spains coach Luis Aragones not to include him in the squad for Euro 2008 cause he thinks he isnt ready and it would be too much pressure from him.
i dont think it would be too much pressure on him cause he probably wouldnt play much.what do you guys think?

Raven_Blade · 15th May 2008, 19:54

It would be a good learning experience. Why not go with the squad if you are selected?

a_devil_inside · 15th May 2008, 20:03

Raven_Blade · 15th May 2008, 21:08

^Not that Bojan...

comlag · 15th May 2008, 21:11

What is it with these Barcelona players asking not to play? That club could do with some discipline at the moment, in danger of becoming a big bunch of fanny's.

If he's good enough to play in La Liga and the Champions League he's good enough to play for Spain, regardless of age.

Ruben · 15th May 2008, 21:19

Sounds like a bit gay doesn`t it?

You had Ronaldo and Rooney in big competitions at similar age who were dying to show themselves. They did as well.

AttackingFlair · 15th May 2008, 21:20

That's a bit sad, not like all the countries hopes would be on him. They have quality players all over.

Don16 · 15th May 2008, 21:20

What a poof.

Ixion · 15th May 2008, 21:20

If he says he can't handle the pressure he can't handle the pressue, better than going along and bottling it on the big stage.

Name Changed · 15th May 2008, 21:22

Doubt he will be picked now so... Unfortunate... He´d probably play a bit.

Count Duckula · 15th May 2008, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Ixion

If he says he can't handle the pressure he can't handle the pressue, better than going along and bottling it on the big stage.

Precisely.

If he feels he isn't ready, then fine. It's ridiculous he's playing so much and so well at his tender age, anyway. If he doesn't want the weight of country on him when he's not even eighteen yet, then he's perfectly entitled to not get that.

Striker10 · 15th May 2008, 21:28

if you want to play for a big team then you have to accept the pressure. He's playing for barca ibn the league, champions league. He's done well. I don't see what his problem is

Cold_Boy · 15th May 2008, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Don16

What a poof.

Agreed.

The "big" players don't really do this.

Ekeke · 15th May 2008, 21:37

Shouldnt play for Spain anyway.

davisjw · 15th May 2008, 21:38

Couldn't see him playing this tournament any way.. In a few years him and Torres will be deadly together...

Woodzy · 15th May 2008, 21:38

Give him a break, he's 17. Theo Walcott went to the world cup when he clearly wasn't ready, that did him the world of good didn't it. If he doesn't think hes ready yet then fair enough.

davisjw · 15th May 2008, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Shouldnt play for Spain anyway.

He was born there if memory serves correctly...

Ruben · 15th May 2008, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Woodzy

Give him a break, he's 17. Theo Walcott went to the world cup when he clearly wasn't ready, that did him the world of good didn't it. If he doesn't think hes ready yet then fair enough.

Theo Walcott had played 0 games for Arsenal at that point.

Bojan has featured regurarly for Barcelona in La Liga and CL. They really can`t be compared.

Ekeke · 15th May 2008, 21:50

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Originally Posted by davisjw

He was born there if memory serves correctly...

Ah. Just read that. Thought he was purely serb and had just been in Spain long enough for citizenship. He was born in Catalonia.

zain · 15th May 2008, 22:08

If only our players would do the same

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 15th May 2008, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricardinho

Has asked Spains coach Luis Aragones not to include him in the squad for Euro 2008 cause he thinks he isnt ready and it would be too much pressure from him.
i dont think it would be too much pressure on him cause he probably wouldnt play much.what do you guys think?

He is right. That 17 year old will have many more tournaments to play in. He is the new and improved version of ( I fucking hate to say this

) Romario.

Ruben · 15th May 2008, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He is right. That 17 year old will have many more tournaments to play in. He is the new and improved version of ( I fucking hate to say this

) Romario.

Extremely premature isn`t it? Considering what Romario has done over the years and the fact that Bojan still hasn`t really done anything.

KingEric7 · 15th May 2008, 23:39

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He is right. That 17 year old will have many more tournaments to play in. He is the new and improved version of ( I fucking hate to say this

) Romario.

That's a huge thing to say about someone who's only just emerging even if he is a phenomenal prospect. Romario is the second best striker i've ever seen so i'm a bit more reserved.

What i will say about Bojan is that this is not the attitude you would expect of a world class player in the making. Professionals cannt afford to have a lack of esteem; they must be ambitious, determined and fully self confident. I appreciate that his time will come but could you imagine a 17 year old Ronaldo doing this?

Unfortunately, this mentality is something which you acquire at birth, it cannot simply be instilled. You'll find that it seperates the very top players around the world. Would Ronaldo be as good if he was a shy lad? I doubt it.

Ruben · 15th May 2008, 23:47

Good post KingEric, agree with all of that.

Striker10 · 15th May 2008, 23:52

I'm rather suprised by the romanio comparison but I think you have an interesting contrast. Romario had much more belief and he would not only go to the euros, he's talk about being top scorer and probably shag alot of women during the tourny

It's much to soon to make such a comparision. The boy has done fine but most of his reputation is based on what he did at lower levels. Come back in 2-3 years time and you'll see where he stands

brophs · 16th May 2008, 00:10

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

Unfortunately, this mentality is something which you acquire at birth, it cannot simply be instilled. You'll find that it seperates the very top players around the world. Would Ronaldo be as good if he was a shy lad? I doubt it.

It's bottle. You either have it or you don't. No amount of big games will change that, you may become more experienced, but if your first instinct is to withdraw every time the going gets tough, then you will always struggle. Big players ALWAYS want to play the big games. Fact. No matter how nervous they are, real footballers revel in, and grow into those occasions, once they are out there.

I know he's a 17 year old boy, but this makes me lose a lot of respect for him.

vuc · 16th May 2008, 01:01

Interesting. Bojan still hasn't made his NT debut for Spain. The last time he was meant to play was in some friendly but he had 'stomach pains' and now he is asking to sit out the Euros. I heard a rumour that the Serbian mafia are putting a squeeze on him but discredited it, but it makes me think twice now...

ricardinho · 16th May 2008, 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by vuc

Interesting. Bojan still hasn't made his NT debut for Spain. The last time he was meant to play was in some friendly but he had 'stomach pains' and now he is asking to sit out the Euros. I heard a rumour that the Serbian mafia are putting a squeeze on him but discredited it, but it makes me think twice now...

thats interesting.

enghuei · 16th May 2008, 01:27

He wants to play for Serbia.

Spammy · 16th May 2008, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He is the new and improved version of ( I fucking hate to say this

) Romario.

Hehe.

quethenoo · 16th May 2008, 02:05

hes a fuckin poof and a loser if true, why would you not want to?

cesc's_mullet · 16th May 2008, 02:48

Where's the ambition?

FranklyVulgar · 16th May 2008, 09:50

UNdoubtably a tallented boy but realistically he wouldnt be capped by now if not for the hype and the fact he has serbian blood.

They already have David Villa and Torres up front and a whole host of established players so i don't think it would be bad for Bojan to develop at a lesser rate. Allow the kid to grow a little, 17 is very young.

15th May 2008, 19:53	#1 (permalink)
ricardinho Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 602	Bojan. Has asked Spains coach Luis Aragones not to include him in the squad for Euro 2008 cause he thinks he isnt ready and it would be too much pressure from him. i dont think it would be too much pressure on him cause he probably wouldnt play much.what do you guys think?

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Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Somewhere im not supposed to be. Posts: 16,262	It would be a good learning experience. Why not go with the squad if you are selected?

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Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Somewhere im not supposed to be. Posts: 16,262	^Not that Bojan...

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comlag Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Daydream Nation Posts: 1,137	What is it with these Barcelona players asking not to play? That club could do with some discipline at the moment, in danger of becoming a big bunch of fanny's. If he's good enough to play in La Liga and the Champions League he's good enough to play for Spain, regardless of age.

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Ruben Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Drink, drink. Fan, fan. Ruben, ruben. Posts: 4,846	Sounds like a bit gay doesn`t it? You had Ronaldo and Rooney in big competitions at similar age who were dying to show themselves. They did as well.

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AttackingFlair Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Location Location Location ;) Posts: 2,587	That's a bit sad, not like all the countries hopes would be on him. They have quality players all over.

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Don16 Annoying cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The big goalies coming up! Posts: 3,261	What a poof.

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Ixion Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 3,144	If he says he can't handle the pressure he can't handle the pressue, better than going along and bottling it on the big stage.

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 3,801	Doubt he will be picked now so... Unfortunate... He´d probably play a bit.

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Striker10 First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,989	if you want to play for a big team then you have to accept the pressure. He's playing for barca ibn the league, champions league. He's done well. I don't see what his problem is

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Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,694	Shouldnt play for Spain anyway.

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davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,265	Couldn't see him playing this tournament any way.. In a few years him and Torres will be deadly together...

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Woodzy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 1,319	Give him a break, he's 17. Theo Walcott went to the world cup when he clearly wasn't ready, that did him the world of good didn't it. If he doesn't think hes ready yet then fair enough.

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zain Believe Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Only around where Top Reds are! Posts: 1,348	If only our players would do the same

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Ruben Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Drink, drink. Fan, fan. Ruben, ruben. Posts: 4,846	Good post KingEric, agree with all of that.

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Striker10 First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,989	I'm rather suprised by the romanio comparison but I think you have an interesting contrast. Romario had much more belief and he would not only go to the euros, he's talk about being top scorer and probably shag alot of women during the tourny It's much to soon to make such a comparision. The boy has done fine but most of his reputation is based on what he did at lower levels. Come back in 2-3 years time and you'll see where he stands

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vuc Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 961	Interesting. Bojan still hasn't made his NT debut for Spain. The last time he was meant to play was in some friendly but he had 'stomach pains' and now he is asking to sit out the Euros. I heard a rumour that the Serbian mafia are putting a squeeze on him but discredited it, but it makes me think twice now...

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enghuei Cheats at Tetris Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where the locals boo on their own National Team. Funny, but true. Posts: 2,050	He wants to play for Serbia.

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quethenoo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Where the sun dont shine. Posts: 2,936	hes a fuckin poof and a loser if true, why would you not want to?

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cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ... i didn't park my car in here Posts: 8,031	Where's the ambition?

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FranklyVulgar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In amoungst the pigs raising hell Posts: 1,868	UNdoubtably a tallented boy but realistically he wouldnt be capped by now if not for the hype and the fact he has serbian blood. They already have David Villa and Torres up front and a whole host of established players so i don't think it would be bad for Bojan to develop at a lesser rate. Allow the kid to grow a little, 17 is very young.