Bojan.

Bynni · 16th May 2008, 12:17

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Originally Posted by cesc's_mullet

Where's the ambition?

Exactly, Spain haven't exactly done spectacular things at the big tournaments but they are much more likely to do so than Serbia.

KingEric7 · 16th May 2008, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Team Brian GB

If that is his judgement then it should be respected, it is better than the other way round if he went and obviously wasn't up to it, ala Walcott.

Saying that he could get made at Euro 2008, in the way Rooney and Owen were- and I'm sure Barcelona would not mind too much either.

The difference here being that Walcott did not ask to be withdrawn despite being an inferior player to Bojan in my opinion. Even if the whole saga was quite pointless in the end, he went through with it, as would be expected of a young professional hoping to further himself.

As you say, he could enhance his reputation but his lack of ambition could prevent him from being the top player he should turn out to be.

notoriousRed · 16th May 2008, 15:38

vida probably threatened to kill him if he plays for spain. rather have him playing for serbia!

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Ruben

Extremely premature isn`t it? Considering what Romario has done over the years and the fact that Bojan still hasn`t really done anything.

Oh please. I could care less. I'm not about to wait till the end of Bojan's career to say who he reminds me of.

FlawlessThaw · 16th May 2008, 19:49

Vidic had a word.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 19:57

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

That's a huge thing to say about someone who's only just emerging even if he is a phenomenal prospect. Romario is the second best striker i've ever seen so i'm a bit more reserved..

Be reserved all you want. It's your business. For my money the kid plays just like Romario. Yet has the workrate, total two footedness and an assuming attitude the Brazillian never had.

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

What i will say about Bojan is that this is not the attitude you would expect of a world class player in the making. Professionals cannt afford to have a lack of esteem; they must be ambitious, determined and fully self confident. I appreciate that his time will come but could you imagine a 17 year old Ronaldo doing this?

Be fair. Not everyone has to be a Ronaldo attitude wise to succeed. Look at Zidane. He was closer to a Scholes in his attitude. But we all know what he was. A great player.

Look at Essien even. Shy as can be.....

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

Unfortunately, this mentality is something which you acquire at birth, it cannot simply be instilled. You'll find that it seperates the very top players around the world. Would Ronaldo be as good if he was a shy lad? I doubt it.

I doubt a Zidane, a Raul or a Scholes would have have been any better than they were if they had Ronaldo's way about then tbh. What matters is the talent on has. Added to the desire to apply that talent and learn everything there is to learn to improve it and become amongst the best around. IMO Bojan has these important attributes. Plus he also knows he needs to improve before being used at the highest level. Which should help him, bar injury, to become a great player.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:05

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

The difference here being that Walcott did not ask to be withdrawn despite being an inferior player to Bojan in my opinion. Even if the whole saga was quite pointless in the end, he went through with it, as would be expected of a young professional hoping to further himself.

As you say, he could enhance his reputation but his lack of ambition could prevent him from being the top player he should turn out to be.

I think it's rather harsh to call what he has done a lack of ambition. I think it's commendable he would rather work on improving himself...than participating in a an exercise in futility or possibly reputation damage.

KingEric7 · 16th May 2008, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Be reserved all you want. It's your business. For my money the kid plays just like Romario. Yet has the workrate, total two footedness and an assuming attitude the Brazillian never had.

It's not a criticism, Chief. If you believe he will turn out to be the next Romario then fair enough; Bojan is an extremely talented player. He has indeed got that composure infront of goal but it is simply that for me, it is a bit early to draw comparisons, such was the genius of Romario.

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Be fair. Not everyone has to be a Ronaldo attitude wise to succeed. Look at Zidane. He was closer to a Scholes in his attitude. But we all know what he was. A great player.

Look at Essien even. Shy as can be.....

I don't expect Bojan to be an arrogant player strutting around the pitch with his collar up.

However, for a 17 year old climbing the footballing ladder, you would expect him to show enough ambition to represent his nation in a competition of such magnitude. The above players would not have rejected an international call up due to overwhelming pressure.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:13

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

It's not a criticism, Chief.

I know. I think you sort of miss understood me. I was trying to say you're a free to feel that way. & I'm okay with that. But saying it properly seems to have escaped me that time.

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

If you believe he will turn out to be the next Romario then fair enough; Bojan is an extremely talented player. He has indeed got that composure infront of goal but it is simply that for me, it is a bit early to draw comparisons, such was the genius of Romario.

Fair enough. It's just he seems to have studied Romario's game to a tee. He even arrives in the box in the same style. It's uncanny despite being so young. & I noticed because I really loathed Romario. So his playing style I can't get out of my head.

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I don't expect Bojan to be an arrogant player strutting around the pitch with his collar up.

hee hee

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

However, for a 17 year old climbing the footballing ladder, you would expect him to show enough ambition to represent his nation in a competition of such magnitude. The above players would not have rejected an international call up due to overwhelming pressure.

True. But he seems like a Scholes. Modest about himself to a fault.

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