Brits abroad

Murphman · 8th July 2008, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Johnno

Abedi Pele was in a similar position, he wouldn't get in over him.

He was miles better than Pele, he was brilliant in france was Waddle absolutely shit hot. The fans always know.

Johnno · 8th July 2008, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Murphman

He was miles better than Pele, he was brilliant in france was Waddle absolutely shit hot. The fans always know.

Abedi Pele is considered one of their best ever players, won four Ligue 1s on the bounce with Marseille, was MOM in the 1993 Champions League Final, Africa's most decorated player, he was fucking awesome you clown.

Shaydee · 9th July 2008, 07:25

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Originally Posted by Ixion

Ince did alright at Inter didn't he? The cnut.

he did well but he wanted to move back to England. Inter wanted to keep him.

Murphman · 9th July 2008, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Johnno

Abedi Pele is considered one of their best ever players, won four Ligue 1s on the bounce with Marseille, was MOM in the 1993 Champions League Final, Africa's most decorated player, he was fucking awesome you clown.

He won the French league 4 times. Well fuck me that's some achievement.

Who decorated him, Idi Amin? And what the fuck does decorated mean, somebody gave him a medal of honour or did his front room up?

You're a fucking idiot.

Johnno · 9th July 2008, 08:51

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Originally Posted by Murphman

He won the French league 4 times. Well fuck me that's some achievement.

Who decorated him, Idi Amin? And what the fuck does decorated mean, somebody gave him a medal of honour or did his front room up?

You're a fucking idiot.

Well, you're a fucking Scouser and you lot believe Reina is the best goalie in the world.

Murphman · 9th July 2008, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Johnno

Well, you're a fucking Scouser and you lot believe Reina is the best goalie in the world.

He is.

redspoony · 9th July 2008, 09:13

Didn't Paul Rideout play for Bari some years back. Not sure how he did. Never forgiven him for the 95 cup final. Cnut.

Not a brit, but Robbie Keane had an inconspicuous spell at Inter as well.

Nanison · 9th July 2008, 15:06

How did Liam Brady do at Juventus? And how about Steve Archibald at Barcelona?

Murphman · 9th July 2008, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Nanison

How did Liam Brady do at Juventus? And how about Steve Archibald at Barcelona?

Brady was a massive hit at Juve. Don't think Archibald tore any trees up though, didn't he play alongside Lineker and Hughes under Venables.

Nanison · 9th July 2008, 15:46

So both Brady and Charles were hits at juventus. i would imagine they contract more Brittish or Irish players then. According to wikipedia it are the only two Brits to have ever played there.

I also stumbled upon a certain Clarke who played a season for Ajax in the 70's, he scored 37 goals there.

I also saw Stapleton played 4 games for Ajax

Ivor Ballokov · 9th July 2008, 16:31

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Originally Posted by topper

Best ever Brit at a foreign club was John Charles at Juventus - idolised by the fans over 40 years after he left them. Was never sent off or cautioned - the Gentle Giant

http://www.ifhof.com/hof/charles.asp

I can't believe it took until the 32nd post to mention John Charles.

Well done Topper.

711 · 9th July 2008, 17:20

John Charles was good as well.

jdmufc · 9th July 2008, 17:25

wonder what the japanese made of lineker??

CnutOfAllCnuts · 9th July 2008, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Nanison

So both Brady and Charles were hits at juventus. i would imagine they contract more Brittish or Irish players then. According to wikipedia it are the only two Brits to have ever played there.

Rush played at Juve, so did Platt.

CnutOfAllCnuts · 9th July 2008, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Murphman

Brady was a massive hit at Juve. Don't think Archibald tore any trees up though, didn't he play alongside Lineker and Hughes under Venables.

Yes, Archibald was there with Sparky and FA Cup ears.

Didn't do too badly, scored 24 goals in 50-odd games.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th July 2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by jdmufc

why do British players not really "cut the mustard" when they move abroad??
just recently i was trying to think of a British player who it could be said was "successful" when they moved to a team on the continent.
gazza i think was a hit....not that he won anything but in the fact that even the miserable italiens would have to admit that he could really play football.

any other players come to mind who could be deemed a success??

John Charles, Beckham, Waddle, Hoddle, Lambert, Platt etc

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th July 2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Murphman

He was miles better than Pele, .......

He was never miles better than Abedi Pele.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th July 2008, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Johnno

Abedi Pele is considered one of their best ever players, won four Ligue 1s on the bounce with Marseille, was MOM in the 1993 Champions League Final, Africa's most decorated player, he was fucking awesome you clown.

Seconded

manux399 · 9th July 2008, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Murphman

Stamford Bridge.

You sure..?? Could've sworn it was at Anfield, disgraceful challenge.

manux399 · 9th July 2008, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Murphman

Brady was a massive hit at Juve. Don't think Archibald tore any trees up though, didn't he play alongside Lineker and Hughes under Venables.

Barca fans loved Archibald..! Yeah he played under El Tel won the League and I think Cup Winners Cup..don't quote me on that last one though...

manux399 · 9th July 2008, 21:12

Des Walker Sampdoria and didn't the beast Souness play there too..??

CnutOfAllCnuts · 9th July 2008, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Murphman

He is.

Gate keeper

CnutOfAllCnuts · 9th July 2008, 22:55

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Originally Posted by manux399

Des Walker Sampdoria and didn't the beast Souness play there too..??

Yes

reddevilcanada · 9th July 2008, 23:28

The styles of the leagues have something to do with that...the Spanish league is very technically sound, while the Italians are very tactically sound and play at a slow tempo...and then you've got the fast paced physical premier league. Most of the Brits learn the English way of football and don't always find it as easy to adjust to the Spanish/Italian way of playing unless of course they're very good players themselves technically like Gazza at Lazio. There's no doubt the likes of Rooney and Joe Cole would excel in both Spain and Italy as they're great technically, but your average English player would rather stay in England...and then there's the huge amount of money and high wages in the premier league which is another deterrent to playing abroad...

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redspoony Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their fucking perch. And you can print that" - Sir Alex Ferguson Posts: 1,818	Didn't Paul Rideout play for Bari some years back. Not sure how he did. Never forgiven him for the 95 cup final. Cnut. Not a brit, but Robbie Keane had an inconspicuous spell at Inter as well.

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Nanison Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	How did Liam Brady do at Juventus? And how about Steve Archibald at Barcelona?

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Nanison Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	So both Brady and Charles were hits at juventus. i would imagine they contract more Brittish or Irish players then. According to wikipedia it are the only two Brits to have ever played there. I also stumbled upon a certain Clarke who played a season for Ajax in the 70's, he scored 37 goals there. I also saw Stapleton played 4 games for Ajax

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711 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: May I suggest a regimental crest of two crossed dead Frenchmen, emblazoned on a mound of dead Frenchmen motif? Posts: 1,764	John Charles was good as well.

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jdmufc Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: down and out...not a bit of it.....they are never out!!! Posts: 991	wonder what the japanese made of lineker??

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manux399 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Dubai, UAE. "Dubai Les Sealey Reds..!!!!" Posts: 3,097	Des Walker Sampdoria and didn't the beast Souness play there too..??

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reddevilcanada First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,108	The styles of the leagues have something to do with that...the Spanish league is very technically sound, while the Italians are very tactically sound and play at a slow tempo...and then you've got the fast paced physical premier league. Most of the Brits learn the English way of football and don't always find it as easy to adjust to the Spanish/Italian way of playing unless of course they're very good players themselves technically like Gazza at Lazio. There's no doubt the likes of Rooney and Joe Cole would excel in both Spain and Italy as they're great technically, but your average English player would rather stay in England...and then there's the huge amount of money and high wages in the premier league which is another deterrent to playing abroad...