Bye bye Ramos?

032Devil · 3rd October 2008, 08:07

From the Sun:

Hughes Next

TOTTENHAM have sounded out Mark Hughes about replacing Juande Ramos as boss.

Spurs officials contacted Sparky’s advisors yesterday to offer him the job hours before Manchester City’s UEFA Cup tie with Omonia Nicosia.

They slapped a £20million, five-year deal on the table and would love the Eastlands chief to take over during next week’s international break.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy decided to act after concluding Spaniard Ramos is now a lame-duck manager.

Only slack finishing from Polish minnows Wisla Krakow and an own goal kept struggling Spurs in the UEFA Cup yesterday.

Levy is a long-term admirer of Hughes, 44, and came close to offering him the White Hart Lane job last year after axing Martin Jol.

Hughes earns around £2.5m a year at City after moving from Blackburn during the summer.

But he has unlimited funds to splash in the transfer market following the club’s takeover by Abu Dhabi businessmen.

The way City outbid Chelsea to land Brazilian hitman Robinho for £32.5m from Real Madrid proved their amazing new transfer muscle.

New City owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan will be determined to hang on to Hughes — even though they have demanded he wins them the Champions League by 2011.

Sheikh Mansour has said: “We want to make it clear that Mark Hughes is absolutely integral to our plans.

"We are lucky to have someone who we believe is the best young British manager — someone who has been successful on the global stage, the Premier League and of course as a player.”

Since winning the Carling Cup last season Spurs have been on a dismal downward spiral — and Levy is desperate to put things right.

The club have a worse league record than Derby had at the equivalent stage last season.

Pundits have also questioned Ramos’ buys, with most agreeing he has wasted the majority of the £81m he has spent.

Spurs remain rooted to the foot of the Premier League table with just two points from six matches.

And fans chanted ‘You don’t know what you’re doing’ at Ramos when he took off striker Roman Pavlyuchenko in the 2-0 defeat to Portsmouth at Fratton Park last Sunday.

Former Seville coach Ramos, 54, signed a four-year contract at Spurs last October.

His side play Hull at White Hart Lane on Sunday in what could be his last game in charge.

***

Gotta laugh haven't you!

Ander8on · 3rd October 2008, 08:13

Ramos should be given a full season, massive amount of change in the summer for Spurs & its going to take time for the club to adjust.

Cant see Hughes even considering a change of clubs, not with the monopoly money City have recently inherited.

DevilsOwn · 3rd October 2008, 08:18

after all the talk beginning of last season and this season, spurs have surely been the HUGE disappointments..

credit to levy, he has still been patient with ramos, atleast publicly.

x42bn6 · 3rd October 2008, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilsOwn

after all the talk beginning of last season and this season, spurs have surely been the HUGE disappointments..

credit to levy, he has still been patient with ramos, atleast publicly.

Well, Levy's a very public man.

Crustanoid · 3rd October 2008, 08:51

Do you think anyone would notice if Hughes replaced Ramos?

Hughes

Ramos

Scholesgoals · 3rd October 2008, 09:14

ridiculous, how are you expected to manage a club who have changed their team completely, and then only give them ten games to gel.

this is a carbon copy of Jol, stupid really. I hope when ferguson leaves we dont get something like this.

Fuzzymel · 3rd October 2008, 09:26

Its not the manager thats the problem. The more managers they go through the more obvious it has become. Until people like Levy are dealt with Spurs are never going to move forward.

I say bring back Martin Jol. I thought that guy was quality.

RedSky At Night · 3rd October 2008, 09:30

Madness. Jol must be have a right giggle at Spurs (considering he's top of his league at present).

x42bn6 · 3rd October 2008, 09:33

Comolli, Levy and Jol are in charge of Spurs. The team does rubbish. Jol gets fired.

Comolli, Levy and Ramos are in charge of Spurs. The team does rubbish.

I don't know, but I suspect that if firing Jol didn't help...

Scholesgoals · 3rd October 2008, 09:34

who the hell is levy and why does he keep sticking his nose in all the time. leave the football to the managers please.

UnitedRoadRed · 3rd October 2008, 09:37

Yes, it is Juande's responsibility to make the team gel, but when you look at the players that Comolli has brought in, it really does make you wonder whether all woes can be levelled at Ramos.

x42bn6 · 3rd October 2008, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholesgoals

who the hell is levy and why does he keep sticking his nose in all the time. leave the football to the managers please.

He's a "Director of Football", aka "Cunt".

henno · 3rd October 2008, 09:42

spurs...... the new newcastle???

kouroux · 3rd October 2008, 09:51

It reminds of the combo interview of Ferguson and Wenger when they said the key about coaching is time unfortunately nowadays the expectations are so high on managers it amazes how they get fired so quickly (granted there is no misery) but why not players if they're really shit ?

Giggsy PO · 3rd October 2008, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kouroux

It reminds of the combo interview of Ferguson and Wenger when they said the key about coaching is time unfortunately nowadays the expectations are so high on managers it amazes how they get fired so quickly (granted there is no misery) but why not players if they're really shit ?

Because it is easier to pay compensations to one person than to several persons.

kouroux · 3rd October 2008, 10:06

Indeed

UnitedRoadRed · 3rd October 2008, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by x42bn6

He's a "Director of Football", aka "Cunt".

Levy's the chairman.

No wonder you've got a registration plate for a login name.

x42bn6 · 3rd October 2008, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnitedRoadRed

Levy's the chairman.

No wonder you've got a registration plate for a login name.

I know, I mean I said we should sign Lennon, so...

He's still a cunt of the highest order.

Sylar · 3rd October 2008, 13:54

Its a shame really. Spurs are a joke nearly as big as Newcastle. If they want to win things like they think they should be doing, they need to spend over 100m on a team (which includes a bloody defence)

Brad · 3rd October 2008, 14:11

Spurs really do have a distorted sense of self importance if they think Hughes would leave City to be their manager under the current circumstances (i.e having all the money in the World to spend at City; Spurs giving the Geordies a run for their money as the biggest joke in the Premier League, and would have to work under Levy and some no mark 'director of football' who would have all the power for signing players without the responsibilty)

Name Changed · 3rd October 2008, 14:38

Why would Hughes leave an improving City to take over a club like Spurs who are falling apart? Hughes has only taken over at City. He is going to be given huge funds to bolster his squad. He will also be given a couple of seasons to do it.

Why would he leave City for Spurs? It makes no sense. Even if he was doing relatively well, they'd sack him because they expect to be a top 4 team.

There is no point in leaving a genuine contender to enter the top 4 to go to a team who think they are top 4 material but never going to get there?

More absolute tripe from the Sun.

olesmyhero · 3rd October 2008, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by henno

spurs...... the new newcastle???

Was thinking the same thing.

quiet_united · 3rd October 2008, 16:45

Where is Glastonspur ?

Cali Red · 3rd October 2008, 17:09

Spurs have turned into a caricture of themselves. Of course Ramos will take the fall for this, owners can't be fired and someone will be. In fairness to him the ownership in not helping.

Fortitude · 3rd October 2008, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilsOwn

after all the talk beginning of last season and this season, spurs have surely been the HUGE disappointments..

credit to levy, he has still been patient with ramos, atleast publicly.

Are you talking the piss?

It's Levy and Comolli's fault they are in this situation in the first place.

jasonrh · 3rd October 2008, 18:35

Where are you GlastonSpur?
Where are you?
Where are you?
Where are you GlastonSpur?

Raven_Blade · 3rd October 2008, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonrh

Where are you GlastonSpur?
Where are you?
Where are you?
Where are you GlastonSpur?

He must have finally tightened the noose and left this planet for good.

marcus agrippa · 3rd October 2008, 19:18

Spurs will never accomplish anything if they keep changing managers and playing staff every season.

you'd think they'd learn that by now.

jasonrh · 3rd October 2008, 19:28

Levy for Spurs manager.

He's been their de facto manager for two seasons now.

olesmyhero · 3rd October 2008, 20:17

Maybe this season will put an end to the 'spurs for 4th place' business.

jasonrh · 3rd October 2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by olesmyhero

Maybe this season will put an end to the 'spurs for 4th place' business.

They'll finish 2nd from bottom.

3rd October 2008, 08:07	#1 (permalink)
032Devil First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 13,622	Bye bye Ramos? From the Sun: Hughes Next TOTTENHAM have sounded out Mark Hughes about replacing Juande Ramos as boss. Spurs officials contacted Sparky’s advisors yesterday to offer him the job hours before Manchester City’s UEFA Cup tie with Omonia Nicosia. They slapped a £20million, five-year deal on the table and would love the Eastlands chief to take over during next week’s international break. Spurs chairman Daniel Levy decided to act after concluding Spaniard Ramos is now a lame-duck manager. Only slack finishing from Polish minnows Wisla Krakow and an own goal kept struggling Spurs in the UEFA Cup yesterday. Levy is a long-term admirer of Hughes, 44, and came close to offering him the White Hart Lane job last year after axing Martin Jol. Hughes earns around £2.5m a year at City after moving from Blackburn during the summer. But he has unlimited funds to splash in the transfer market following the club’s takeover by Abu Dhabi businessmen. The way City outbid Chelsea to land Brazilian hitman Robinho for £32.5m from Real Madrid proved their amazing new transfer muscle. New City owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan will be determined to hang on to Hughes — even though they have demanded he wins them the Champions League by 2011. Sheikh Mansour has said: “We want to make it clear that Mark Hughes is absolutely integral to our plans. "We are lucky to have someone who we believe is the best young British manager — someone who has been successful on the global stage, the Premier League and of course as a player.” Since winning the Carling Cup last season Spurs have been on a dismal downward spiral — and Levy is desperate to put things right. The club have a worse league record than Derby had at the equivalent stage last season. Pundits have also questioned Ramos’ buys, with most agreeing he has wasted the majority of the £81m he has spent. Spurs remain rooted to the foot of the Premier League table with just two points from six matches. And fans chanted ‘You don’t know what you’re doing’ at Ramos when he took off striker Roman Pavlyuchenko in the 2-0 defeat to Portsmouth at Fratton Park last Sunday. Former Seville coach Ramos, 54, signed a four-year contract at Spurs last October. His side play Hull at White Hart Lane on Sunday in what could be his last game in charge. *** Gotta laugh haven't you!

3rd October 2008, 08:13	#2 (permalink)
Ander8on Pissface Bob for another 12 months Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chorlton "Knowledge speaks, but Wisdom listens" Posts: 3,434	Ramos should be given a full season, massive amount of change in the summer for Spurs & its going to take time for the club to adjust. Cant see Hughes even considering a change of clubs, not with the monopoly money City have recently inherited.

3rd October 2008, 08:18	#3 (permalink)
DevilsOwn Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: XBL n00b-land Posts: 775	after all the talk beginning of last season and this season, spurs have surely been the HUGE disappointments.. credit to levy, he has still been patient with ramos, atleast publicly.

3rd October 2008, 08:51	#5 (permalink)
Crustanoid Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancs Posts: 2,460	Do you think anyone would notice if Hughes replaced Ramos? Hughes Ramos

3rd October 2008, 09:14	#6 (permalink)
Scholesgoals Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Close to your heart Posts: 1,908	ridiculous, how are you expected to manage a club who have changed their team completely, and then only give them ten games to gel. this is a carbon copy of Jol, stupid really. I hope when ferguson leaves we dont get something like this.

3rd October 2008, 09:26	#7 (permalink)
Fuzzymel Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Guernsey Posts: 2,233	Its not the manager thats the problem. The more managers they go through the more obvious it has become. Until people like Levy are dealt with Spurs are never going to move forward. I say bring back Martin Jol. I thought that guy was quality.

3rd October 2008, 09:30	#8 (permalink)
RedSky At Night Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,696	Madness. Jol must be have a right giggle at Spurs (considering he's top of his league at present).

3rd October 2008, 09:33	#9 (permalink)
x42bn6 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: PMing people with maths homework answers - feel free to ask Posts: 3,754	Comolli, Levy and Jol are in charge of Spurs. The team does rubbish. Jol gets fired. Comolli, Levy and Ramos are in charge of Spurs. The team does rubbish. I don't know, but I suspect that if firing Jol didn't help...

3rd October 2008, 09:34	#10 (permalink)
Scholesgoals Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Close to your heart Posts: 1,908	who the hell is levy and why does he keep sticking his nose in all the time. leave the football to the managers please.

3rd October 2008, 09:37	#11 (permalink)
UnitedRoadRed Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,350	Yes, it is Juande's responsibility to make the team gel, but when you look at the players that Comolli has brought in, it really does make you wonder whether all woes can be levelled at Ramos.

3rd October 2008, 09:42	#13 (permalink)
henno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: over there ----> Posts: 1,169	spurs...... the new newcastle???

3rd October 2008, 09:51	#14 (permalink)
kouroux Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poitiers (France) Posts: 4,842	It reminds of the combo interview of Ferguson and Wenger when they said the key about coaching is time unfortunately nowadays the expectations are so high on managers it amazes how they get fired so quickly (granted there is no misery) but why not players if they're really shit ?

3rd October 2008, 10:06	#16 (permalink)
kouroux Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poitiers (France) Posts: 4,842	Indeed

3rd October 2008, 13:54	#19 (permalink)
Sylar Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,094	Its a shame really. Spurs are a joke nearly as big as Newcastle. If they want to win things like they think they should be doing, they need to spend over 100m on a team (which includes a bloody defence)

3rd October 2008, 14:11	#20 (permalink)
Brad GTBTB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Red Republik Posts: 20,968	Spurs really do have a distorted sense of self importance if they think Hughes would leave City to be their manager under the current circumstances (i.e having all the money in the World to spend at City; Spurs giving the Geordies a run for their money as the biggest joke in the Premier League, and would have to work under Levy and some no mark 'director of football' who would have all the power for signing players without the responsibilty)

3rd October 2008, 14:38	#21 (permalink)
Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,550	Why would Hughes leave an improving City to take over a club like Spurs who are falling apart? Hughes has only taken over at City. He is going to be given huge funds to bolster his squad. He will also be given a couple of seasons to do it. Why would he leave City for Spurs? It makes no sense. Even if he was doing relatively well, they'd sack him because they expect to be a top 4 team. There is no point in leaving a genuine contender to enter the top 4 to go to a team who think they are top 4 material but never going to get there? More absolute tripe from the Sun.

3rd October 2008, 16:45	#23 (permalink)
quiet_united Vietnamese Red Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mars Posts: 2,437	Where is Glastonspur ?

3rd October 2008, 17:09	#24 (permalink)
Cali Red Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,092	Spurs have turned into a caricture of themselves. Of course Ramos will take the fall for this, owners can't be fired and someone will be. In fairness to him the ownership in not helping.

3rd October 2008, 18:35	#26 (permalink)
jasonrh Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: "You sir, are the syphilitic cockbiscuit son of a hamster rimmer."; "Sir Alex Ferguson, trainer of the English champions, wants to start the spoon fruits since early." Posts: 59,058	Where are you GlastonSpur? Where are you? Where are you? Where are you GlastonSpur?

3rd October 2008, 19:18	#28 (permalink)
marcus agrippa First Team Sub Join Date: May 2005 Location: "Clattenburg!- Jesus God!" - SAF Posts: 5,655	Spurs will never accomplish anything if they keep changing managers and playing staff every season. you'd think they'd learn that by now.

3rd October 2008, 19:28	#29 (permalink)
jasonrh Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: "You sir, are the syphilitic cockbiscuit son of a hamster rimmer."; "Sir Alex Ferguson, trainer of the English champions, wants to start the spoon fruits since early." Posts: 59,058	Levy for Spurs manager. He's been their de facto manager for two seasons now.

3rd October 2008, 20:17	#30 (permalink)
olesmyhero has a lazy eye...japs eye Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 4000+ miles west of old trafford Posts: 12,270	Maybe this season will put an end to the 'spurs for 4th place' business.