Charting the Season With 'Arry Redknapp

Lance Uppercut · 5th July 2011, 12:47

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Summer high spirits - July 22, 2010: "I feel we could contend for the title; we have got the players here. We have to aim for it. We could win the championship. Last year, we went in saying we wanted to finish in the top four and if you don't aim for things, you have no chance."

Winter gloom - November 26, 2010: "This season we're definitely outsiders but with this group of players I have said it's not an impossible ask. The title race is more open this year than for many. And I think neutrals like to see a fresh face in the mix. We had Everton not so long ago, now Tottenham, who finished in the top four last season. With this group of players I wouldn't want anyone to rule us out."

Winter despair - February 22, 2011: "I think people get carried away thinking Tottenham should be in the Champions League. Why should we be in the Champions League? It would be a miracle if we did that. We'd never been in the Champions League before. Suddenly we do it and it's, "Oh well, we should do it again". Look at Man City, Chelsea. Have a look at their wage bill...Why should we finish above them? I think that if we make the top four it'll be a fantastic achievement for the players, but it will be tough."

Spring realism - April 8, 2011: "It's very difficult to make that top four now, but it will be even harder next year because Liverpool will come with a real rattle. They won't settle for not being a top-four club again next year. And you have City, who can't afford to be out of that top four."

And back to summer high spirits - June 4, 2011: "We've got a great group of players. If we could add a couple to that group we can achieve anything at Tottenham. I want to win the championship with Tottenham that's my ambition. It's not impossible...We played some great stuff last year and the year before so there's no reason we can't [challenge for the title]."

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I struggle to think of anyone in football who is quite as full of shit as 'Arry.

Pogue Mahone · 5th July 2011, 12:56

Must be a Spurs thing.

Glastonspurs' opinions follow an almost identical trajectory, season after season.

GlastonSpur · 5th July 2011, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Mediawatch

I struggle to think of anyone in football who is quite as full of shit as 'Arry.

I struggle to think of anyone besides you who lacks as much understanding of the difference between "could" and "should" (or "can" and "will").

Plan M · 5th July 2011, 13:54

Mrs Levy

Hectic · 5th July 2011, 13:59

I really dislike Harry, he's such a wanker, and I don't even know him.

Always comes out with his rollercoaster bullshit over the course of a season.

Yes, there's every reason why you won't challenge for the title, the main one being you do not have a team capable of challenging for the title.

Shut up, you winston churchhill dog looking mother fucker.

SharkyMcShark · 5th July 2011, 14:07

It's hard to see clearly when your forehead hangs down over your fucking eyes.

VoetbalWizard · 5th July 2011, 14:16

i like 'arry. he's got that wideboy/bricktop thing going for him which is humourous.

Lance Uppercut · 5th July 2011, 14:18

'Arry is a turd. I really hope he gets the England job.

SteveJ · 5th July 2011, 14:18

More Harry hilarity:

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"I'm going 'let go of my trousers', pushing them away. While I'm doing that they're rifling my pockets, there were about six of them. And then they went.

"I thought 'what are they doing?' I went to put my hand in my pockets and realised what they'd done.

"They took everything. All my money, credit cards, everything really."

BBC News - Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp 'mugged' in Madrid

Bryan_Munich · 5th July 2011, 14:19

They're going to use the funds from the sale of Modric to pay for 'Arry's legal bill.

Plan M · 5th July 2011, 16:01

I like Harry Redknapp too, he's honest and likeable from what I've gathered.

Haters gonna hate though.

esmufc12 · 5th July 2011, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Plan M

I like Harry Redknapp too, he's honest and likeable from what I've gathered.

Haters gonna hate though.

Honest???????????????????????

This is a good article on Redknapp

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

GIT Z RED · 5th July 2011, 17:07

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Originally Posted by esmufc11

Honest???????????????????????

This is a good article on Redknapp

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

Thats an excellent article in that link a great read, thanks

Wonder Pigeon · 5th July 2011, 20:37

B19 · 5th July 2011, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

'Arry is a turd. I really hope he gets the England job.

This is well on its way to becoming a full fledged proverb, a la the Chinese "may you live in interesting times."

evra · 5th July 2011, 21:50

Arry is good value, football would be poorer without him. Plus I respect the football his teams play. Some posters on this forum just seem to hate everything and everyone.

peterstorey · 5th July 2011, 22:05

Where's the 'go to jail' box?

SteveJ · 5th July 2011, 22:12

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Originally Posted by evra

football would be poorer without him...

...but Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth would be richer.

evra · 5th July 2011, 22:16

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Originally Posted by SteveJ

...but Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth would be richer.

Touché

Sam · 5th July 2011, 22:17

Boom and bust.

davisjw · 5th July 2011, 22:26

'Arry is one of the best managers in the PL, let's be honest. He spends a lot, but you do see product on the field. He also has them playing some of the best football in the league and brings out of the players this "f*ck it, we're attacking them no matter the costs" mentality.

Who else goes out to Italy, guns blazing? And Spain? We don't have the balls to do that. Naive teams are always brilliant to watch.

They have quality players and they're a lot easier to root for than Chelsea or City. We need decent moral teams at the top of the table.

davisjw · 6th July 2011, 03:23

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Originally Posted by esmufc11

Honest???????????????????????

This is a good article on Redknapp

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

What a shitty article. The majority of the article is blaming 'Arry for not balancing the books of clubs. Last I checked, that's for the owner, his henchmen and the footballing director (or whatever Levy and Gil's titles are) to worry about.

'Arry doesn't buy without asking permission so this objective article that seemingly states he just buys without telling anyone is poor journalism. Saying "Rio was sold and he pocketed money so as not to use the rest of the money on players, but did anyway, is ignorant. The money doesn't go straight to his bank account, it's not a car sale.

Like every manager, he's had to ask along the way which is what 'Arry has said. "Look my job is to put what I think is the best squad. If the owner gives me the money, it's not my problem."

'Arry recognized talent at West Ham. And at Spurs he took them from bottom feeder that season to the CL birth a year after. He got the best out of Bale and managed to snatch VDV.

Now I'm not trying to suck his teet, but the blame he gets is crazy. He buys a lot because he can. And because he can, he will. Jose buys to win championships while ignoring youth.

I just think he deserves a little more respect.

Freak · 6th July 2011, 03:58

He looks like a dog from a certain cartoon. I'm just not sure which cartoon.

ricky-romeo · 6th July 2011, 04:04

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Originally Posted by Freak

He looks like a dog from a certain cartoon. I'm just not sure which cartoon.

this one?

Freak · 6th July 2011, 04:11

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Originally Posted by ricky-romeo

this one?

Yes!

What's the name of that cartoon character?

Edit: Never mind, got it: Droopy.

Freak · 6th July 2011, 04:21

Droopy:

Redknapp:

AttackingFlair · 6th July 2011, 04:23

Redknapp didn't get VDV, he was given to him

ricky-romeo · 6th July 2011, 04:23

^

Snow · 6th July 2011, 04:33

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Originally Posted by davisjw

'Arry is one of the best managers in the PL, let's be honest. He spends a lot, but you do see product on the field. He also has them playing some of the best football in the league and brings out of the players this "f*ck it, we're attacking them no matter the costs" mentality.

Who else goes out to Italy, guns blazing? And Spain? We don't have the balls to do that. Naive teams are always brilliant to watch.

They have quality players and they're a lot easier to root for than Chelsea or City. We need decent moral teams at the top of the table.

Well, he went 4-0 under and ruined the game. Then against Milan over two matches he played more defensive football than Italians usually play.

Against Real they were overplayed. Didn't do jack really. Wasn't guns a blazing nothing. Just poor football.

They also played often badly in the league, hence their outcome. Lot of low scoring games. 7 teams scored more goals than them, including WBA, and Blackpool scored the same.

It's a big misconception based on a handful of games that his team plays good attacking football.

sajeev · 6th July 2011, 07:56

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Originally Posted by davisjw

What a shitty article. The majority of the article is blaming 'Arry for not balancing the books of clubs. Last I checked, that's for the owner, his henchmen and the footballing director (or whatever Levy and Gil's titles are) to worry about.

'Arry doesn't buy without asking permission so this objective article that seemingly states he just buys without telling anyone is poor journalism. Saying "Rio was sold and he pocketed money so as not to use the rest of the money on players, but did anyway, is ignorant. The money doesn't go straight to his bank account, it's not a car sale.

Like every manager, he's had to ask along the way which is what 'Arry has said. "Look my job is to put what I think is the best squad. If the owner gives me the money, it's not my problem."

'Arry recognized talent at West Ham. And at Spurs he took them from bottom feeder that season to the CL birth a year after. He got the best out of Bale and managed to snatch VDV.

Now I'm not trying to suck his teet, but the blame he gets is crazy. He buys a lot because he can. And because he can, he will. Jose buys to win championships while ignoring youth.

I just think he deserves a little more respect.

actually the article is very good and actually picks out some myths about him being a good man-manager.

For example, he has managed to alienate players at every club. For every player he has motivated, you find one who is demotivated (a really good manager won't do that). As a result of that he keeps re-cycling players.

Also,the story regarding his tenure at Spurs is quite wrongly told. You have to take into consideration, the fact that Spurs just lost out on 4th place in 2006 on the last day. They then won the Carling cup too (not that it is a really good indicator). They however had a squad ready to compete for 4th place, only it was not motivated. So the very fact that he claims complete credit for the turn-around shows his true character.

Ramshock · 6th July 2011, 09:22

Harrys wheeling and dealing makes him a laughing stock more than anything else, the fact that he is a slightly above average coach is usually lost because of his wheeler dealer image. An image that he incredulously denies!

Jonno · 6th July 2011, 09:42

You have got to admire the way he does conduct himself to the media. He comes across as an honest guy, but really he is just saying what is best to defend Spurs at that particular time. Just like Fergie does with United - difference is with United, we are always in the top 4 so the comments tend to be similar each year.

Justin · 6th July 2011, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Ramshock

Harrys wheeling and dealing makes him a laughing stock more than anything else, the fact that he is a slightly above average coach is usually lost because of his wheeler dealer image. An image that he incredulously denies!

Comments like "Tactics don't win matches" put him over the top

africanspur · 6th July 2011, 11:25

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Originally Posted by Plan M

I like Harry Redknapp too, he's honest and likeable from what I've gathered.

Haters gonna hate though.

As much as I love and respect Redknapp for what he's done, I think honest is just about the last term I would use to describe him.

As for the money issues, that isn't Redknapp's fault. He asks for money and players, the chairmen are stupid enough to give it to him and he deliver for the clubs. At least Levy keeps him in check and still handles wage negotiations himself. Which idiots were sitting round the wage negotiation table when Pompey were signing Muntari, Nugent and Campbell?

He doesn't help himself though. Gets pissed off when someone calls him a wheeler dealer and then stands there on 31st August telling SSN that he's just picked up VDV for 8 million, as if he's nabbed him from the back of the van. Makes the situation sound like he was offered to us 2 hours before the deadline and we hadn't been following him at all, when actually, we had enquired about him earlier in the window and had been scared off by the 18 million valuation.

africanspur · 6th July 2011, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Justin

Comments like "Tactics don't win matches" put him over the top

Except what isn't what he said is it? This comment seems to have gained legendary status on this board and yet its been misinterpreted. He said formations don't win you matches. Or more specifically, that it counts for 10% of what a team does.

Now I don't agree with him that that they matter that little but the football manager generation of fans sit there talking about how this formation is crap, this formation is amazing, this team can only play well in this formation. Its all overstated crap. Its almost as if I put up Crawley town in a specific formation and lined up Real Madrid in the dreaded 4-4-2

, Real would lose.

Do you honestly think that we played the same way for all 50-60 games last season? Or for all the games in his reign? Do you not find it strange that Redknapp actually changed formation when we bought VDV? Do you not find it strange that just a few days before that article, Redknapp wrote another saying saying that England should stop playing a 4-4-2? Or that he says we're not signing Crouch/Defoe/insert name of pretty much every player we've signed under him...only to sign them a few days later.

Redknapp bullshits in the media all the time. I'm surprised anyone actually takes what he says at face value.

africanspur · 6th July 2011, 11:40

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Originally Posted by sajeev

Also,the story regarding his tenure at Spurs is quite wrongly told. You have to take into consideration, the fact that Spurs just lost out on 4th place in 2006 on the last day. They then won the Carling cup too (not that it is a really good indicator). They however had a squad ready to compete for 4th place, only it was not motivated. So the very fact that he claims complete credit for the turn-around shows his true character.

You also have to take into consideration that we had lost Carrick, King and Davids from that team that almost finished 4th. And an on-form Keane. And that the competition had improved. And that the seaosn he took over, we had 2 from 8 games and were playing very much like a bottom 3 team. The foundations were there sure. But he did a great job.

As for going to Italy all guns blazing?

We didn't do anything of the sort. We barely touched the ball in the first 10 minutes. Two individual mistakes later, nothing to do with our tactics or formation,we were 2 goals and a man down. People seem to get ideas stuck in their head which after a while become the accepted fact.

Lance Uppercut · 22nd November 2011, 11:54

He is at it again. Until they lose a game, anyway. Then they "can't be expected to compete with the likes of us and Shitty." Again.

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"The title is a possibility. It's not impossible," Redknapp said. "When I came here I said I wanted to get in the Champions League.

"It's not impossible for anyone. If you keep winning matches and believe in yourself you'll do it.

"Last season Man Utd won it because everyone fell over. If we keep up the form we're in at the moment we'll win the league, but that will be very hard."

F365

Bryan_Munich · 22nd November 2011, 12:02

This time next year we'll be champions Rodders.

Lance Uppercut · 22nd November 2011, 12:03

Sarni · 22nd November 2011, 12:06

They are second in the form table so I wouldn't write them off, you know.

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5th July 2011, 12:56	#2 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,523	Must be a Spurs thing. Glastonspurs' opinions follow an almost identical trajectory, season after season.

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Plan M First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★ ★ ★ Posts: 10,062	Mrs Levy

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,845	I really dislike Harry, he's such a wanker, and I don't even know him. Always comes out with his rollercoaster bullshit over the course of a season. Yes, there's every reason why you won't challenge for the title, the main one being you do not have a team capable of challenging for the title. Shut up, you winston churchhill dog looking mother fucker.

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SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,587	It's hard to see clearly when your forehead hangs down over your fucking eyes.

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VoetbalWizard First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at the altar of ryan giggs Posts: 10,452	i like 'arry. he's got that wideboy/bricktop thing going for him which is humourous.

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Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	'Arry is a turd. I really hope he gets the England job.

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Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,765	They're going to use the funds from the sale of Modric to pay for 'Arry's legal bill.

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Plan M First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★ ★ ★ Posts: 10,062	I like Harry Redknapp too, he's honest and likeable from what I've gathered. Haters gonna hate though.

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evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 8,037	Arry is good value, football would be poorer without him. Plus I respect the football his teams play. Some posters on this forum just seem to hate everything and everyone.

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peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,001	Where's the 'go to jail' box?

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Sam First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 'I'm a genius muthafuckin' voice of a generation' Posts: 18,546	Boom and bust.

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davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,867	'Arry is one of the best managers in the PL, let's be honest. He spends a lot, but you do see product on the field. He also has them playing some of the best football in the league and brings out of the players this "f*ck it, we're attacking them no matter the costs" mentality. Who else goes out to Italy, guns blazing? And Spain? We don't have the balls to do that. Naive teams are always brilliant to watch. They have quality players and they're a lot easier to root for than Chelsea or City. We need decent moral teams at the top of the table.

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Freak Born a freak always a freak. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere in your mind, touching a nerve Posts: 10,273	He looks like a dog from a certain cartoon. I'm just not sure which cartoon.

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Freak Born a freak always a freak. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere in your mind, touching a nerve Posts: 10,273	Droopy: Redknapp:

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AttackingFlair First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,037	Redknapp didn't get VDV, he was given to him

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Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 10,350	Harrys wheeling and dealing makes him a laughing stock more than anything else, the fact that he is a slightly above average coach is usually lost because of his wheeler dealer image. An image that he incredulously denies!

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Jonno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Preston, Lancs Posts: 3,568	You have got to admire the way he does conduct himself to the media. He comes across as an honest guy, but really he is just saying what is best to defend Spurs at that particular time. Just like Fergie does with United - difference is with United, we are always in the top 4 so the comments tend to be similar each year.

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Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,765	This time next year we'll be champions Rodders.

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Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765

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Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 21,628	They are second in the form table so I wouldn't write them off, you know.