David Luiz

Raees

Well his aggression helped in heading bravely for the opener today, not to mention his technique was pretty handy in scoring past ourselves. It's sad that when players who have abit of raw flair, abit of excitement.. we have some who just want to stamp it out of them and turn them into efficient robots.. Do you also hate the fact that Smalling shows confidence on the ball?

He has a long way to go, like people have said .. he can be reckless in quite a few facets of his defensive game.

Excal

Now you've gone and made him angry:

charlenefan

Whilst I agree that when a defender scores a few goals in their debut season it can cloud most peoples opinion on how good they are at their day job so to speak i.e. actually defending and i.e. Vermaelen I wouldn't put this lad in the same category tbh.

For me he's looking without a doubt the best Chelsea signing since Mourinho left. Any criticism of him or his game simply has to be argued with the two facts that he's only 23 and he's only played a hand full of games in this league and regardless of that despite his rashness that could of cost him in the games against Fulham and us he's been outstanding in all 3 of Chelsea's home games in which he's played and we know ourselves that our promising RB Rafael can be known to be a little rash himself but we dont chastise him for it.

Yes you can argue that City weren't great today but you've got to praise him for the little he gave Dzeko, he keep Rooney relatively quiet as well.

It's not easy for me to praise him because I've taken an instant dislike to him, probably because he's so good, possibly because the ref failed to send him off which would of effected the result in our game with Chelsea but the lad looks a class act my only surprise was there wasn't more teams in for him during the transfer window

Team Brian GB

Forget him, Vuc will be preparing a voodoo doll or will request of the Serbian Embassy in London to write a strongly worded letter to him.

cj4_elmo

Just because he's better than all your current defenders doesn't make him the top few in the world, it just means you have rubbish defenders for a team of your quality.

I'm always right

1 doesn't compute with 2.

In fact, I'd put "Technique being unimportant" up there with other beauties such as "Anderson is arrogant cause he played a look-away pass" for most stupid post of 2011.

I'm always right

Ivanovic
Terry
Alex
Cole

Think you're being a little harsh there elmo.

cj4_elmo

Meant Arsenal defenders

Raees

Sharky.. Gillespie's a gooner!

I'm always right

ah ha.

Then elmo was totally bang on.

vuc

Is Luiz better than Vidic?

Team Brian GB

Not yet at least but it wouldn't surprise me if he becomes better than everybody.

charlenefan

The two of them paired together would be frightening

antihenry

It was £21m, not £26m.

I notice you never have anything positive to say about Chelsea or its players, no matter what subject is being discussed.

Luiz has been Chelsea's best player since arriving in January and scored two very important goals against top class opposition. Of course he has flaws but he's still young and has time on his side, his potential is enormous. Only someone totally blinded by bias would deny that he's been a revelation these past few weeks.

Commadus

Luiz looks to be a brilliant buy - reminiscent of when we bought Rio for £30m - similar in style as well.

All that can stop Luiz from becoming one of the worlds best centrebacks is injury.

Kelvin

he had dzeko in his pocket yesterday, his reading of the game is superb.

p_ps_sock

well thats hardly praise, Dzeko couldn't trap a bag of cement at the minute and his lack of mobility is obvious in the prem.

That said I've been really impressed with Luiz, obviously has flaws in his game but his talent is immense.

fishfingers15

What's all this he's as good as Rio talk. Sponge Bob square pants commits a lot of niggly dirty fouls and very unlike Ferdinand. He's a good defender, and hopefully teams will work him out.

Sarni

Actually, I said that he has huge potential, I only added that he hasn't been tested properly yet so putting him in the same bracket that the very top players in that position is a little bit premature.

vuc

He has huge potential for sure. It will be interesting to see how consistent he is over time.

SATA

Very comfortable on the ball for a central defender. It kinda annoys me how good he has been so far, and how good he will turn out in the future

JayWalker

Extremely promising player. Defensively suspect and reckless at times, but with experience in the PL, he can iron those flaws out.

Aint gota Kalou

He's got massive potential but there always seems like there might be a mistake in him somewhere. He'll probably iron it out over time but I do think it's a bit premature to label him as one of the best in the world right now. Could quite easily get there over time though.

Defenders of his ilk are usually very difficult to find so it looks like they've got themselves a bargain.

noodlehair

He was annoying yesterday.

He blatantly and pre-calculatedly dived Pires style to win a freekick, and then headed the ball in directly from the resulting cross, and was given praise for doing so.

Why are players now getting credit for being unbelievable cheats?


He just comes across as Heinze with a bit more technical ability. He'll be great in certain games and a liability in others.

Sam.G

SpongeBob?

Sideshow Bob more like.

RedCanuck

I was thinking much the same thing. Seems to get away with running around fouling everyone atm, maybe the refs are distracted by the hair?

enghuei

Has he officially surpassed Daniel Agger as the "best attacking CB" in the league?

Walrus

this is true


I thought Luiz looked good, put him straight into the fantasy team after chelski signed him. They appear to have a real talent and he can play anywhere along the back four too.

Ekeke

Vermaelen was ahead of Agger

Twigginater

If he would have been sent off rightly versus us, and conceeded a last minute goal v Fulham from that penalty he give away in the last minute, how different this thread would look.

VoetbalWizard

thiago silva IMO is even better. We need to rob milan of him..a true rio replacement.

FranklyVulgar

He's outstanding, he has struggled a bit when Nesta isn't fit. But put him alongside a more mature central defender and he flurishes. Getting better all the time.

It's embarassing that Brazil potentially have two strong central defenders that are probably better all round players than most other nations midfielders etc.

They can both score goals, have an excellent range of passing and are very comfortable with the ball at their feet. Fuck off Brazil!

Ekeke

Wasnt that great when we played them last year.

Christofaux

So does Puyol but he still does alright.

In fact most defenders do it, its just when its your defender doing it it's seen as good defending.

noodlehair

He doesn't really get away with it.

In our game at SB we had four or five decent openings due to him being caught miles out of position, usually kicking someone. More often than not he'd have cost them a second goal and/or been sent off.

It was the same against Fulham, where he conceded a daft penalty in the last minute, and was incredibly lucky not to concede another before that.

Everyone loved Heinze and thought he was a revelation when he first showed up, but he was also a potential walking disaster zone (often shown up in the Champions League). It's give and take. Some teams wont be able to handle Luiz while others will see him as a weakness to exploit. At the end of the day you don't really want your centreback to be charging up the wings or getting on the end of crosses from open play...that just means the players who should be doing that aren't. It's not really helpful if he tries to cost you the game by being a moron half the time either.

mufcwarm92

This is so true. I don't doubt he has fantastic talent and will be a huge figure in the future of Chelsea and Brazil, but if he had been punished for those two incidents then the tune would be very different.

Brwned

You have Thiago Silva, Pique, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Badstuber, Ramos etc. who do this regularly in a game, and you have the likes of Terry now doing it occasionally in every game, so you'd assume there's some perceived advantage to it from the manager's side of things or they'd tell them to stop.

That perceived advantage being that with so many teams playing one man up top there's usually a free centre back, and using him to outnumber the opposition in midfield can be quite handy.

Just because we don't do it very often doesn't mean it's not a prevalent theme in multiple teams and leagues.

B19

It's fair to say he is better than Torres in all aspects of the game.

So far...

amolbhatia100

Too much overhyping going on. He's made a good start but a long way to go.

Solius

I came into this thread with the intention of basically writing this.