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Nucks · 19th March 2012, 17:29

This Liam guy is obviously an utter twat. However, even the possibility that he could go to jail over that is absurd. We protect freedom of speech in our culture for just this reason.

So fucktards can out themselves and be ostracized for the rest of their lives

Commadus · 19th March 2012, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Mouth to mouth breathing in the stadium, ventilator afterwards. I don't get the question? but am not sure about this 2 hours thing. That's a lot of time !!

I thought guidelines are not doing mouth to mouth. I assume they would have put him on a respirator and then doing chest compressions. My question was that I read it was 2 hours before they got his heart to restart and whether that was correct.

Annihilate Now! · 19th March 2012, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Nucks

This Liam guy is obviously an utter twat. However, even the possibility that he could go to jail over that is absurd. We protect freedom of speech in our culture for just this reason.

So fucktards can out themselves and be ostracized for the rest of their lives

We also outlaw racism (and rightly so if you ask me). If someone wants to be racist, they can do so in private or somewhere else.

Drifter · 19th March 2012, 17:38

BBC say he's speaking again.Incredible if true.

MUFCgal · 19th March 2012, 17:44

Thank god, please hope it's true.

Guy Incognito · 19th March 2012, 17:47

Sky too. Friends say he is talking.

MUFCgal · 19th March 2012, 17:49

He said a few small words in French and English it's being reported.

Thank god.

iSparky · 19th March 2012, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Commadus

I thought guidelines are not doing mouth to mouth. I assume they would have put him on a respirator and then doing chest compressions. My question was that I read it was 2 hours before they got his heart to restart and whether that was correct.

The guidelines regarding chest only compressions are mainly for the public, the reason being is that research has shown that people dont give effective breaths into the lungs as they are not used to it, lets face it how many times are you going to give CPR to someone in your lifetime? Because most people were not giving effective breaths for mouth to mouth it is a waste of time as they are doing something that is not helping so the decision was made to teach the public the hands only CPR routine. A paramedic will still give mouth to mouth as they will administer effective breaths because they are used to doing it.

In terms of the 2 hour thing, his heart may not have been flat lining for 2 hours, it could have been intermittently starting and stopping in that 2 hour period, if is heart was flat lined for the entire 2 hours well CPR would have been stopped long before 2 hours and he would have been declared dead. Again I obviously cant go into any details but what I will say is the the paramedics almost lost count of the amount of shocks given via defib. The fact he has shown improvement so soon is a big positive, hopefully he will have good brain function too.

Damien · 19th March 2012, 17:56

The entire Tottenham squad have asked for cardiac screening for themselves.

gooDevil · 19th March 2012, 17:56

Wow, that's a miracle right there, that he can move and speak at all! How wonderful, I have to say I had no hope when i first heard the news.

Mickey · 19th March 2012, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Damien1990

The entire Tottenham squad have asked for cardiac screening for themselves.

Think all footballs should do it.

Cases like this happen far, far too often.

adexkola · 19th March 2012, 17:59

Wooo hooo! (Homer Simpson's voice)

Twigginater · 19th March 2012, 17:59

Get in there. This has put a big smile on my face

Cheesy · 19th March 2012, 18:06

Great to see him making a recovery now. A lot of us didn't think he'd make it a couple of nights ago, nevermind be talking again by Monday.

Adzzz · 19th March 2012, 18:06

It's worth saying this is the same time-frame for my Grand-father. It's a good sign however and he is young and much fitter.

pauldyson1uk · 19th March 2012, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Damien1990

The entire Tottenham squad have asked for cardiac screening for themselves.

I think every football team should be doing the same.

Damien · 19th March 2012, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Mickey

Think all footballs should do it.

Cases like this happen far, far too often.

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Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

I think every football team should be doing the same.

I agree with you both.

Tweet from his fiancee:

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Shauna Muamba ‏ @ShaunaMuamba
All your prayers are working people thank u so so much. Every prayer makes him stronger. To God be the glory.

https://twitter.com/#!/shaunamuamba

Great to hear that he is speaking too and they've said he's starting to recognise people.

antihenry · 19th March 2012, 18:29

Great news.

KingCantona87 · 19th March 2012, 18:37

The latest news has genuinely brought a smile to my face.

Apparently the whole Sunderland squad paid tributes at the Reebok.

Skywarden · 19th March 2012, 18:39

Very pleased to hear. You keep fighting man.

The_Red_Hope · 19th March 2012, 18:42

Great news. Hope he makes a complete recovery.

Guy Incognito · 19th March 2012, 18:44

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Originally Posted by MUFCgal

He said a few small words in French and English it's being reported.

Thank god.

Latest now is he is speaking French and English and is able to recognise visitors. Statement at 7ish.

kouroux · 19th March 2012, 18:50

Very happy to hear the latest news.I'm not usually emotional when it comes to footballers' tragedies but there is something about this Muamba situation.The way everyone in the stadium were shocked

JayWalker · 19th March 2012, 18:53

This is great.

Come on Fabrice, keep at it.

Duffy · 19th March 2012, 19:01

Fantastic news...let's hope this positive news continues!

Damien · 19th March 2012, 19:03

Saying on SSN that the cardiologist involved on the pitch suggested to the paramedics to take him directly to the specialist heart attack unit he is at now because he works there, and is one of the people who is working on his treatment.

For such a horrible thing to happen to Muamba, he really was in the right place at the right time.

pillory · 19th March 2012, 19:06

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Fabrice Muamba remains in intensive care at The London Chest Hospital. He is continuing to show signs of improvement this evening.

He is now able to breathe independently without the aid of a ventilator. He has also been able to recognise family members and respond to questions appropriately.

These are all positive signs of progress.However,*the medical staff in intensive care will continue to monitor and treat him.

His family and club would like to thank the media for continuing to respect their privacy at this time.

...

Godfather · 19th March 2012, 19:22

All credit goes to the docs and medics involved. Great great news

The White Pele · 19th March 2012, 20:01

Glad to see some positive news on Muamba today. Here's hoping he can make a return to health. Seeing him walk out of that hospital would give a fan of any club reason to smile come the end of the season regardless of what happens on the pitch.

Sean_RedDevil · 19th March 2012, 20:11

From Moscow today

Great to see that the football world is together

Striker10 · 19th March 2012, 20:12

very positive news. The movements, the speech and recognition. All in such a condensed space of time. Hopefully he continues to go from strength to strength.

kouroux · 19th March 2012, 20:13

More than anything else I wish him to be healthy again, even if it means him stopping football.Health is always taken for granted by many of us

JayWalker · 19th March 2012, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

From Moscow today

Great to see that the football world is together

That's fantastic.

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Originally Posted by kouroux

More than anything else I wish him to be healthy again, even if it means him stopping football.Health is always taken for granted by many of us

Agreed. Him living a full healthy life is more important than anything else. Even if it comes at the price of quitting football.

kf · 19th March 2012, 20:19

Great news that he's got some movement, speach and recognition back. Hope it's the start of a sustained recovery.

Cheesy · 19th March 2012, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

From Moscow today

Great to see that the football world is together

Really good to see. I love the way that the whole of football have united over all of this. It really has been quite moving to see at times.

Raven Blade · 19th March 2012, 20:27

The positive news is making me smile. Keep fighting Muamba and you'll recover. I'm not ashamed to say this whole incident has struck a nerve with me. I'm willing him to get well.

@Rednev. Give it a rest, will ya? Now's not the time.

MUFCgal · 19th March 2012, 20:40

So glad he seems to be on mend. He may never play football again, but fingers crossed he can lead a relatively normal life, that's the most important thing here.

Pogue Mahone · 19th March 2012, 20:51

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Originally Posted by cheesy

Really good to see. I love the way that the whole of football have united over all of this. It really has been quite moving to see at times.

Benoit Assou-Ekotto has written a decent article expressing exactly the same point of view.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/...y-7577583.html

iSparky · 19th March 2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Damien1990

Saying on SSN that the cardiologist involved on the pitch suggested to the paramedics to take him directly to the specialist heart attack unit he is at now because he works there, and is one of the people who is working on his treatment.

For such a horrible thing to happen to Muamba, he really was in the right place at the right time.

He would have been taken to the London chest regardless, patients these days suffering cardiac arrests go to cardiac treatment centres most of the time instead of an a&e. True though he was in the right place at the right time given the circumstances of what happened. There is a long way to go for him but I hope he recovers well sod playing football there are far more important things in life.

Adzzz · 19th March 2012, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Benoit Assou-Ekotto has written a decent article expressing exactly the same point of view.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/...y-7577583.html

Wonderful, thanks Pogue. Especially poignant after the recent episodes of division seen in the league.

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19th March 2012, 17:29	#481 (permalink)
Nucks Cuckoo Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,306	This Liam guy is obviously an utter twat. However, even the possibility that he could go to jail over that is absurd. We protect freedom of speech in our culture for just this reason. So fucktards can out themselves and be ostracized for the rest of their lives

19th March 2012, 17:38	#484 (permalink)
Drifter American Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 36,511	BBC say he's speaking again.Incredible if true.

19th March 2012, 17:44	#485 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 19,686	Thank god, please hope it's true.

19th March 2012, 17:47	#486 (permalink)
Guy Incognito First Team Sub Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 7,414	Sky too. Friends say he is talking.

19th March 2012, 17:49	#487 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 19,686	He said a few small words in French and English it's being reported. Thank god.

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Damien Self-Aware Redcafe Database (and poster) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Blood. Sometimes it sets my teeth on edge; other times it helps me control the chaos. Posts: 27,562	The entire Tottenham squad have asked for cardiac screening for themselves.

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gooDevil Worst scout ever Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Kids are the Future Posts: 17,004	Wow, that's a miracle right there, that he can move and speak at all! How wonderful, I have to say I had no hope when i first heard the news.

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adexkola American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. "Football Was Alright As Long as We Were Winning Everything And Everybody Knew Their Place" Posts: 13,125	Wooo hooo! (Homer Simpson's voice)

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Twigginater WUM Alert! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obertans #1 fan. Posts: 7,228	Get in there. This has put a big smile on my face

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Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 9,103	Great to see him making a recovery now. A lot of us didn't think he'd make it a couple of nights ago, nevermind be talking again by Monday.

19th March 2012, 18:06	#495 (permalink)
Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A Forest with Astro Turf Facility. Now a Guardian of the West. Posts: 25,795	It's worth saying this is the same time-frame for my Grand-father. It's a good sign however and he is young and much fitter.

19th March 2012, 18:29	#498 (permalink)
antihenry Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blue Heaven Posts: 4,352	Great news.

19th March 2012, 18:37	#499 (permalink)
KingCantona87 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Diamonds are for EVRA Posts: 859	The latest news has genuinely brought a smile to my face. Apparently the whole Sunderland squad paid tributes at the Reebok.

19th March 2012, 18:39	#500 (permalink)
Skywarden First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,425	Very pleased to hear. You keep fighting man.

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The_Red_Hope Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,659	Great news. Hope he makes a complete recovery.

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kouroux No Lifer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 32,559	Very happy to hear the latest news.I'm not usually emotional when it comes to footballers' tragedies but there is something about this Muamba situation.The way everyone in the stadium were shocked

19th March 2012, 18:53	#504 (permalink)
JayWalker Ball Spotter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Still got the blues for you.. RIP The Loner. Hull City. Posts: 27,752	This is great. Come on Fabrice, keep at it.

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Duffy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sulking by the cigerette machine, by the back bar. This time, you've gone too far... Posts: 2,817	Fantastic news...let's hope this positive news continues!

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Damien Self-Aware Redcafe Database (and poster) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Blood. Sometimes it sets my teeth on edge; other times it helps me control the chaos. Posts: 27,562	Saying on SSN that the cardiologist involved on the pitch suggested to the paramedics to take him directly to the specialist heart attack unit he is at now because he works there, and is one of the people who is working on his treatment. For such a horrible thing to happen to Muamba, he really was in the right place at the right time.

19th March 2012, 19:22	#508 (permalink)
Godfather First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 9,964	All credit goes to the docs and medics involved. Great great news

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The White Pele Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paul Scholes loves trees Posts: 1,959	Glad to see some positive news on Muamba today. Here's hoping he can make a return to health. Seeing him walk out of that hospital would give a fan of any club reason to smile come the end of the season regardless of what happens on the pitch.

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Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	From Moscow today Great to see that the football world is together

19th March 2012, 20:12	#511 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,089	very positive news. The movements, the speech and recognition. All in such a condensed space of time. Hopefully he continues to go from strength to strength.

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kouroux No Lifer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 32,559	More than anything else I wish him to be healthy again, even if it means him stopping football.Health is always taken for granted by many of us

19th March 2012, 20:19	#514 (permalink)
kf First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6,327	Great news that he's got some movement, speach and recognition back. Hope it's the start of a sustained recovery.

19th March 2012, 20:27	#516 (permalink)
Raven Blade Dull Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Why do it the easy way? Do it the United way! Posts: 31,972	The positive news is making me smile. Keep fighting Muamba and you'll recover. I'm not ashamed to say this whole incident has struck a nerve with me. I'm willing him to get well. @Rednev. Give it a rest, will ya? Now's not the time.

19th March 2012, 20:40	#517 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 19,686	So glad he seems to be on mend. He may never play football again, but fingers crossed he can lead a relatively normal life, that's the most important thing here.