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Old 26th March 2008, 23:06   #481 (permalink)
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Why was it then that we'd never once shown even a glimmer of interest in Hargreaves, then suddenly he has a 'great' World Cup, everyone is talking about him being an England hero etc, and suddenly we are in for him ? Just coincidence ?
How do you know how much interest we had shown in him before the World Cup?

And the world cup might have just served as the confirmation Sir Alex needed.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:07   #482 (permalink)
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How do you know how much interest we had shown in him before the World Cup?

And the world cup might have just served as the confirmation Sir Alex needed.
None.

The World Cup is the reason Fergie bought him.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:08   #483 (permalink)
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Maybe it's due to the fact that Zidane had a largely forgettable Euro 96?
United signing Zidane after the world cup was not an issue, as he had signed for Juve already.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:09   #484 (permalink)
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None.

The World Cup is the reason Fergie bought him.


Ok
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:10   #485 (permalink)
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Laugh all you like. It's the truth.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:12   #486 (permalink)
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i didn't see much of the 2nd half, but brown, rio, hargreaves, beckham were fairly decent. none of them were crap imo. rooney needs to play with another striker, joe cole was quiet which is surprising.. he's one of england's better and consistent performers. though i agree that carrick needs to be playing, partnering gerrard or lampard.. england are really clueless in the final 3rd of the pitch.. defense and buildup is getting better but they can't find that killer pass and can't finish.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:14   #487 (permalink)
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Laugh all you like. It's the truth.
How the fuck do you know? Do you believe everything the fuckwits on here tell you? For example just because Carrick is better, it doesn't mean Hargreaves is shit.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:15   #488 (permalink)
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When Hargreaves first joined us, I though he ran about like a headless chicken with no technique but was very good at harrassing and tackling...But now I think kindof the opposite, nice passer and touch but terrible at tackling!
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:15   #489 (permalink)
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How the fuck do you know? Do you believe everything the fuckwits on here tell you? For example just because Carrick is better, it doesn't mean Hargreaves is shit.
Just like what everything else that is spouted on here. It's an opinion.

This is mine.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:17   #490 (permalink)
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Just like what everything else that is spouted on here. It's an opinion.

This is mine.
The truth is not an opinion. Not unless you're getting all existential on me.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:18   #491 (permalink)
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The truth is not an opinion. Not unless you're getting all existential on me.
I'm fairly confident that this happens to be the truth. I could be wrong. But I don't think I am.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:21   #492 (permalink)
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I'm fairly confident that this happens to be the truth. I could be wrong. But I don't think I am.
Okay. Fair enough. What do you base it on though other than guesswork? Fergie said he was interested in him before the World Cup (course I'm not saying he definitely was but that's the fact we know).
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:21   #493 (permalink)
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Just like what everything else that is spouted on here. It's an opinion.
In the post above, you said it was the truth, now you say it is merely your opinion.

Unless your opinion is the truth, then you are getting the two mixed up.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:23   #494 (permalink)
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Okay. Fair enough. What do you base it on though other than guesswork? Fergie said he was interested in him before the World Cup (course I'm not saying he definitely was but that's the fact we know).
The Rio situation. Hargreaves not being a typical Fergie or Man Utd player in any way shape or form. Hargreaves being English. My gut feeling.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:24   #495 (permalink)
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The Rio situation. Hargreaves not being a typical Fergie or Man Utd player in any way shape or form. Hargreaves being English. My gut feeling.
What is a typical Fergie player?
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What is a typical Fergie player?
The opposite of Hargreaves.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:26   #497 (permalink)
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The opposite of Hargreaves.
What the fuck is that?
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:27   #498 (permalink)
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What the fuck is that?
Work it out.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:28   #499 (permalink)
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The opposite of Hargreaves.
Seriously that is a stupid comment. I didn't know someone who is prepared to work hard and always give 100% is classed as the opposite of a Fergie type player.

Fair enough if you think he isn't good enough for United but comments like that are just an insult to Ferguson.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:28   #500 (permalink)
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The opposite of Hargreaves.
Stop talking shite.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:34   #501 (permalink)
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The opposite of Hargreaves.
These are Sir Alex's signings since the turn of the decade. Could you let us know which ones are typical Fergie players, and which are not pleasE?

Tevez - £5
Anderson - £15
Nani - £15
Hargreaves - £17
Kuszczak - £2
Carrick - £18
van der Sar - £2
Park - £4
Foster - £1
Vidic - £7
Evra - £6
Smith - £7
Cnut - £7
Rooney - £25
Bellion - £2
Djemba - £4
Howard - £2
Kleberson - £6
Ronaldo - £12
Saha - £13
Ferdinand - £28
Ricardo - £1
van Nistelrooy - £19
Veron - £28
Carroll - £2
Forlan - £7
Barthez - £8
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:35   #502 (permalink)
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Work it out.
Someone who doesn't work hard, can't take a free kick, can't tackle and has no pace?
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:35   #503 (permalink)
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These are Sir Alex's signings since the turn of the decade. Could you let us know which ones are typical Fergie players, and which are not pleasE?

Tevez - £5
Anderson - £15
Nani - £15
Hargreaves - £17
Kuszczak - £2
Carrick - £18
van der Sar - £2
Park - £4
Foster - £1
Vidic - £7
Evra - £6
Smith - £7
Cnut - £7
Rooney - £25
Bellion - £2
Djemba - £4
Howard - £2
Kleberson - £6
Ronaldo - £12
Saha - £13
Ferdinand - £28
Ricardo - £1
van Nistelrooy - £19
Veron - £28
Carroll - £2
Forlan - £7
Barthez - £8
I think maybe you mean millions of pounds...
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:37   #504 (permalink)
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Someone who doesn't work hard, can't take a free kick, can't tackle and has no pace?
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:38   #505 (permalink)
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I think maybe you mean millions of pounds...
That's a given. Nicked the list from another thread, didn't bother edit it.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:38   #506 (permalink)
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Actually he's quite fast when he can be arsed. I dunno what's wrong with him really because he actually has some talent just dunno what he does with it.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:44   #507 (permalink)
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I'm back, sorry, needed the loo.

Basically, to sum up, IMO, Hargreaves seemed like the right plater at the right time.

We still hadn't replaced Keane, Hargreaves could be seen as that replacement, he'd just had a good World Cup, He was suddenly the Nation's hero, he is English, he thought he'd come at a good price (I seem to remember Fergie thought he'd cost in the region of £8 - £10 million).

Do you really think that Fergie had been scouting him for a long time, and that the World Cup was the deciding factor ? Because I don't.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:53   #509 (permalink)
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Basically, to sum up, IMO, Hargreaves seemed like the right plater at the right time.

We still hadn't replaced Keane, Hargreaves could be seen as that replacement, he'd just had a good World Cup, He was suddenly the Nation's hero, he is English, he thought he'd come at a good price (I seem to remember Fergie thought he'd cost in the region of £8 - £10 million).

Do you really think that Fergie had been scouting him for a long time, and that the World Cup was the deciding factor ? Because I don't.
I've no idea so I'm not jumping to conclusions. It's generally a bad idea.
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Old 26th March 2008, 23:56   #510 (permalink)
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Do you really think that Fergie had been scouting him for a long time
Do I think Sir Alex knew him well, after having watched over the years? Yes.

Do I think the world cup influenced his decision to get him? Yes.

Do I think Sir Alex buy playe