G-14 sticks it to Fifa

RedCanuck

It's a straightforward concept HD. When the best players are removed from their club teams those clubs no longer have the best players with whom to compete. That degrades the level of ability at the clubs.
I haven't suggested that money from the world cup not be used, just used differently.
It's quite simple, promise a rotating schedule for the world cup to Africa - get Africa's votes to reduce Uefa's spots. Promise an automatic spot to Oceania, get Oceania's votes.
My reading of fifa's expenses is correct.
Where are you getting this 'profit' and '75%' from? I'm not being obtuse but I haven't had time to read the entire financial report yet.
I have no particular objection to these acadamies if that's what France or anyone else wants. We've seen this type of model be successful in producing elite athletes from the Soviet era.
It's not my responsibility to give money to poor countries for their football program. You may choose to donate money, but it is not acceptable to take money from clubs (and their fans) in order to distribute income.

very Ruud

Compensation deal will be struck - Gill
Press Association
14 September 2005


Manchester United chief executive David Gill is confident clubs will eventually strike a deal with the soccer authorities over compensation for international players.

United and their G14 counterparts are currently backing a court case brought by Belgian club Charleroi, who are seeking compensation for the eight-month absence of Abdelmajid Oulmers who tore ankle ligaments on international duty for Morocco.

The move has annoyed FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who insists clubs should not be paid to release players and has called on the Belgian FA to take sanctions against Charleroi. However, Gill says the clubs have a solid case for compensation, and told Century FM: "We have to come to an agreement. It may take time and it may involve some gnashing of teeth but we will get there in the end."

He added: "The issue does not just involve big clubs and it is not an attack on the international game because we want players to represent their countries.

"But tournaments such as the World Cup and European Championship generate a billion Swiss francs yet the authorities get to use the assets who provide that income for free. There should be compensation for every club who provide players."

Meanwhile, Gill claims United need to use their history and heritage as a negotiating tool in their efforts to lure new players to Old Trafford.

The Red Devils have been ousted from their position as England's wealthiest club by Chelsea, whose owner Roman Abramovich can outbid any rival in pursuit of top talent.

United have already lost out on Arjen Robben and been priced out of bids for Damien Duff and Michael Essien by the ambitious Stamford Bridge outfit and Gill acknowledges his club will have to use other methods than pure finance to entice fresh talent.

"We have to sell the strengths of Manchester United," he said. "We have the history, the heritage, the great stadium, great training ground, the manager, the players.

"Chelsea do have more spare cash than we have but they probably have more spare cash than any other club in the world. But we can compete in the transfer market for top players. There are no sleepless nights on that score. We are very excited about our position."

topper

why don't those defending FIFA just google Fifa/Sepp Blatter and corruption and who knows what they'll find

The Hairdryer

Ok I think you are a little confused about the way the system works. First of all the A-League Club's here don't even have junior teams. The players are selected from small State Clubs were in most cases someone’s Dad or even Mum is the coach. My Son started playing for a team in Brisbane and I went down to watch a game where the so-called coach failed to even pick-up and point out basic things as marking players goal-side and getting your arms up to protect the ball when in possession. After quizzing him about that, he promptly told me he had a level 2 coaching badge and new what he was doing.

Anyway, these players go to the State Academies for about 4-5 session a week, where they get coaching from former Professional Players and Elite Youth Coaches, many of whom have experience with coaching junior players in Europe. They still go back to their Clubs to play on weekends, and for at least one training session a week. These elite programs benefit everyone. A-League and the former NSL teams get their hands of technically very good players, for free, and in some instances have made a pretty penny selling them on to big European Clubs.


I'm not going to touch the rest of your points as I feel we are going in circles. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Thinking about it, and doing some quick maths, I feel that FIFA probably could subsidise wages for players injured in International Duty, however I have a very sick feeling this is only the beginning and it will only open the door for G14 to go for things such as getting FIFA to pay for players wages while they are on International Duty, which did make up part of their Blueprint from the late 90's. They are also trying to get and the cash pool generated by the World Cup saying it's their players who are being used to bring in that money.

This would have a SERIOUS effect on World Football.

RedCanuck

Fair enough, and thanks for the info.

I think the G-14 have looked to negotiate the terms with fifa and been faced with dismissal by Blatter and his gang. If the only way to get them to the negotiating table is use the legal system then that's what they have to do. Up to now, fifa have referred the G-14 to the individual FA's, who would be affected by rulings that required them to pay for the players wages. If fifa are willing to negotiate with the clubs then the costs would be borne by the tournament itself.