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Old 6th February 2012, 15:33   #441 (permalink)
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I can't remember what minute it was in (late in the game possibly at 3-3), but from a corner Luiz did a blatant push on Carrick (I think it was) that I thought would be a clear pen shout but obviously after 2 penalties already there was no way in hell Webb would (could?) have given a 3rd.
It was Evans he fouled. In injury time, after De Gea's save. Absolutely blatant. Wasn't even looking at the ball and cynically blocked off Evans's run.
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:35   #442 (permalink)
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Why isn't a tug enough to win a penalty? It's a free everywhere else on the pitch, so why not in the box?

I see very little difference in the Young incident yesterday and the foul Evans committed on Walcott during the United-Arsenal game at OT earlier in the season. A pull is a pull, and whether the attacker goes down easily or not is immaterial.
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:35   #443 (permalink)
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I can't remember what minute it was in (late in the game possibly at 3-3), but from a corner Luiz did a blatant push on Carrick (I think it was) that I thought would be a clear pen shout but obviously after 2 penalties already there was no way in hell Webb would (could?) have given a 3rd.
It was Evans he pushed. That was the incident I mentioned above.

That was blatant. I agree Webb did not want to give that because he had given two penalties earlier and a third that would have gave us the victory would have been too big a burden for him.

Webb is overall a good ref. But he will never be a great one like Collina.

It takes courage to do the right thing.
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:37   #444 (permalink)
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He wouldn't fall on his face if he was tugged in the back of his shirt. The tug wasn't enough to be a penalty, and the fall was voluntary and intended to win a penalty. Booking (and he went down clutching the ball).
Disagree. Clear pen, when you grab someones shirt as clearly as that, you impede the player, hence a foul and a pen.
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:44   #445 (permalink)
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Penalty or not?
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:53   #446 (permalink)
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It was Evans he pushed. That was the incident I mentioned above.

That was blatant. I agree Webb did not want to give that because he had given two penalties earlier and a third that would have gave us the victory would have been too big a burden for him.

Webb is overall a good ref. But he will never be a great one like Collina.

It takes courage to do the right thing.
Collina wasn't perfect. I remember when he should have sent off Recber for nearly decapitating Kieron Dyer.
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Old 6th February 2012, 15:58   #447 (permalink)
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no one is perfect.

But he was a darn good ref.
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I agree, he was an excellent Ref.

I only commented because you said it takes bravery to make the right decision, and then mentioned Collina. In my opinion, that sprang to mind as a decision that Collina bottled. Hence, nobody's perfect.
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Old 6th February 2012, 16:17   #449 (permalink)
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Webb was fine.
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On first viewing I thought the Young one was a (very lame) dive, but after seeing the replays it looks to me like he was trying to get away from having his shirt pulled on so all his weight was forwards, and then when the defender (can't remember who it was) let go of the shirt he fell forwards.

It was definitely a foul and should have been a penalty.
That's what it looked lie to me - he was leaning forward, attempting to get away and was being held up by the defender's hand. As soon as the defender released the shirt momentum could only go one way and that was down in a heap.
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It seems your MotM couldn't contain himself in the celebrations when Hernandez got the equalizer:
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How hard does someone need to pull on a shirt for it to be a penalty, exactly? What's the cut-off?

As soon as you grab a fistful of another player's shirt, you deserve to be penalised. If you don't want to risk that, don't grab their shirt. It's an easy enough thing to avoid.
True, but I didn't think he was impeded all that much. Maybe I need to watch it again. (Young likes to dive, though, I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt than, say, Berbatov.)
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True, but I didn't think he was impeded all that much. Maybe I need to watch it again. (Young likes to dive, though, I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt than, say, Berbatov.)
That's true. He's definitely a diver. I think he dived in this particular incident fwiw. Still a pen for me though.
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