I was quite shocked when I saw this

Bryan_Munich · 14th January 2012, 12:00

That's the final Premier League standings from the 2008/09 season.

What shocked me was how far City were off the pace before the Sheikh Mansour's millions kicked in.

The takeover was completed in the September of that season and they finished a full 40 points behind us, in fact we weren't far off double their points tally.

Bit rich of Platt to claim the money is irrelevant.

Kid Cunto · 14th January 2012, 12:07

You're shocked City were shite before they had money? I'm not surprised. They were essentially a yo-yo team for a lot of years, they'd had some stability by the time they got bought, but they were fairly average a team to say the least.

Bryan_Munich · 14th January 2012, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Kid Cunto

You're shocked City were shite before they had money? I'm not surprised. They were essentially a yo-yo team for a lot of years, they'd had some stability by the time they got bought, but they were fairly average a team to say the least.

What shocked me was just how far off the pace they were, 40 points is massive.

Zen86 · 14th January 2012, 12:10

They were a nothing side, making up the numbers.

Kid Cunto · 14th January 2012, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

What shocked me was just how far off the pace they were, 40 points is massive.

You realise how small and irrelevant a club they were? I'd compare them to Blackburn or Bolton now.

Man-United · 14th January 2012, 12:11

I remember they were in 18th place in December 2008 before Hughes signed Given, Kompany, De Jong, Bellamy.

Edit: They actually signed Kompany in August 08, before the take over, had no idea.

Scrumpet · 14th January 2012, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Man-United

I remember they were in 18th place in December 2008 before Hughes signed Given, Kompany, De Jong, Bellamy.

That's right. "City's going down with a billion in the bank" was a good song.

rcoobc · 14th January 2012, 12:16

1999 Football League Second Division play-off Final

My Gillingham supporting friends still bemoan this. 2-0 up with 90 minutes to lose the match.

SteveJ · 14th January 2012, 12:18

The truth is that crucial, potentially League-winning players like Yaya, Silva & Aguero wouldn't have looked twice at City were it not for the money. One doesn't have to bitter, grudging or biased to see that. But it suits some people - many of whom are normally sensible posters, journalists, pundits etc - to ignore the fact & instead conclude that Mancini is a tactical master, 'Fergie's lost it,' 'United's in decline,' and City are moral champions with a supreme team spirit and they're 'just like Barcelona'; all wrong.

Guy Incognito · 14th January 2012, 12:19

The most telling thing on that table is Everton's ominous plight.

RedThaiDevils#7 · 14th January 2012, 12:30

Everton were selling their best players while bringing nothing in...

Arteta, Pienaar etc...

Adding to the fact that Cahill was regularly injured, same goes to Fellaini and other important members...

Man-United · 14th January 2012, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

The most telling thing on that table is Everton's ominous plight.

Definitly, sad to see. With money to spend Moyes could have made them class.

Villa too, they finished 6th three seasons in a row and actually had a very good team with Young, Barry, Milner, Agbonlahor, Petrov and O'Neill as manager.

Could have been 8 top teams in this league, now there's 6 and sadly city one of them.

Orton · 14th January 2012, 12:57

68 goals we scored that season? didn't realise it was so little

rcoobc · 14th January 2012, 13:05

Season after a European Championship innit. International Tournament Hangovers

Decotron · 14th January 2012, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

What shocked me was just how far off the pace they were, 40 points is massive.

Mockney · 14th January 2012, 13:48

How far off the pace did you expect them to be? They were never "on" the pace. They were a mid-table club.

The one thing you can give Chelsea is that they were genuinely trying for the title before the money, and quite a successful cup side.

Bryan_Munich · 14th January 2012, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Mockney

How far off the pace did you expect them to be? They were never "on" the pace. They were a mid-table club.

Not 40 points anyway, maybe my memory is going.

I appreciate they were never on the pace.

Hal9000 · 14th January 2012, 14:01

Where did they end up the next season? Wasn't they near the relegation zone for a good part of the season?

Man-United · 14th January 2012, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Hal9000

Where did they end up the next season? Wasn't they near the relegation zone for a good part of the season?

If you mean 09/10 they finished 5th. Was in the top 5 all season, started with four wins in a row.

Hal9000 · 14th January 2012, 14:07

Meant 08/09. Think up till Jan/Feb they were quite near the bottom of the table. Hence the fun little song we had for them.

Chabon · 14th January 2012, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Mockney

How far off the pace did you expect them to be? They were never "on" the pace. They were a mid-table club.

A mid-table club that had spent over £170 million in the previous two years. People forget about the money invested before the takeover from their previous, even more disgusting sugar-daddy.

It took 170 million quid of someone else's money to get them where they are in that table, and it's taken them another 350 million quid of someone else's money to get them to around about our current level, in a season which most of our fans would say is going pretty badly. For comparison, since their first take-over, in which time they've spent over half a billion pounds of someone else's money, we've spent around about £200m building an almost entirely new squad, which is at least the equal of their's, considering our respective achievements this season and our much, much worse injuries. And let's not even get into the dreaded 'net-spend'.

scream · 14th January 2012, 17:06

What I find a little more interesting is Spurs turnaround after spending nowhere near as much.

Justin · 14th January 2012, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Orton

68 goals we scored that season? didn't realise it was so little

The season of the 1-0 binary scorelines

14th January 2012, 12:00	#1 (permalink)
Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,765	I was quite shocked when I saw this That's the final Premier League standings from the 2008/09 season. What shocked me was how far City were off the pace before the Sheikh Mansour's millions kicked in. The takeover was completed in the September of that season and they finished a full 40 points behind us, in fact we weren't far off double their points tally. Bit rich of Platt to claim the money is irrelevant.

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14th January 2012, 12:07	#2 (permalink)
Kid Cunto Good Craig got his c'nuppins Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In sir-arles we trust. Posts: 6,289	You're shocked City were shite before they had money? I'm not surprised. They were essentially a yo-yo team for a lot of years, they'd had some stability by the time they got bought, but they were fairly average a team to say the least.

14th January 2012, 12:10	#4 (permalink)
Zen86 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: its a nice day for a.. white wedding Posts: 4,913	They were a nothing side, making up the numbers.

14th January 2012, 12:11	#6 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,602	I remember they were in 18th place in December 2008 before Hughes signed Given, Kompany, De Jong, Bellamy. Edit: They actually signed Kompany in August 08, before the take over, had no idea.

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rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Corrupting West Brom Posts: 17,206	1999 Football League Second Division play-off Final My Gillingham supporting friends still bemoan this. 2-0 up with 90 minutes to lose the match.

14th January 2012, 12:18	#9 (permalink)
SteveJ Nicest fella on the Caf and Newbie of the Year 2011 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Divided Kingdom Posts: 11,927	The truth is that crucial, potentially League-winning players like Yaya, Silva & Aguero wouldn't have looked twice at City were it not for the money. One doesn't have to bitter, grudging or biased to see that. But it suits some people - many of whom are normally sensible posters, journalists, pundits etc - to ignore the fact & instead conclude that Mancini is a tactical master, 'Fergie's lost it,' 'United's in decline,' and City are moral champions with a supreme team spirit and they're 'just like Barcelona'; all wrong.

14th January 2012, 12:19	#10 (permalink)
Guy Incognito Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,768	The most telling thing on that table is Everton's ominous plight.

14th January 2012, 12:30	#11 (permalink)
RedThaiDevils#7 First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Married with Manchester United, In love with Giggs, Is passionate about Scholes, and is rooting for Bebe' Posts: 5,548	Everton were selling their best players while bringing nothing in... Arteta, Pienaar etc... Adding to the fact that Cahill was regularly injured, same goes to Fellaini and other important members...

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Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,208	68 goals we scored that season? didn't realise it was so little

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rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Corrupting West Brom Posts: 17,206	Season after a European Championship innit. International Tournament Hangovers

14th January 2012, 13:48	#16 (permalink)
Mockney Only poster to be named Poster of the Year twice Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bangerang.net Posts: 24,967	How far off the pace did you expect them to be? They were never "on" the pace. They were a mid-table club. The one thing you can give Chelsea is that they were genuinely trying for the title before the money, and quite a successful cup side.

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Hal9000 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,669	Where did they end up the next season? Wasn't they near the relegation zone for a good part of the season?

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Hal9000 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,669	Meant 08/09. Think up till Jan/Feb they were quite near the bottom of the table. Hence the fun little song we had for them.

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scream Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Slowly going around the bend! Posts: 833	What I find a little more interesting is Spurs turnaround after spending nowhere near as much.