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Old 9th February 2012, 14:18   #121 (permalink)
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Harry would be an utter idiot to leave Spurs. They are improving all the time, have fantastic players, they are a proper club, don't have a corrupt oil baron for an owner ready to fire him on a whim or a leech who saddles the club with debt and restrict his spending. It's probably the best top club job there is right now. Why would anyone in their right mind swap that for some shitty media-ravaged masochism-fest?
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Old 9th February 2012, 14:24   #122 (permalink)
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Once, mate. ONCE he managed to do this! A lot of managers have one good season, look at Rafa Benitez.

I just don't get the Caf's obsession with David Moyes
I don't either. He makes me fall asleep in interviews, he doesn't seem to have any bite to him either and always comes across as timid to me. I just can't see him handling players the way other managers do. Although I could be wrong about that, I'm obviously not privy to the way he deals with his players. It's just how he comes across.
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Old 9th February 2012, 15:00   #123 (permalink)
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Once, mate. ONCE he managed to do this! A lot of managers have one good season, look at Rafa Benitez.

I just don't get the Caf's obsession with David Moyes
In the last 5 seasons he's led Everton to finish 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th and 7th, all whilst spending a net off approimately £10 million pounds (so that's an average £2mil spent per season on average)... only Arsenal beat that in terms of spending to final league position... so Moyes must be doing something right.

I agree with Popper... when he leaves Everton, I can't see them doing half as well as they have under Moyes.
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Old 9th February 2012, 16:11   #124 (permalink)
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I think that Pearce will take over until the end of the season, when Redknapp will leave Spurs to take over. This means that he can give Spurs the full season, to see how well they can do.

After that, I think Mourinho will take over. He's clearly not happy at Real Madrid anymore, and he keeps on hinting that he would want to return to England. I can't see him going to any other club than Spurs right now.
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Old 9th February 2012, 16:25   #125 (permalink)
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... always comes across as timid to me. I just can't see him handling players the way other managers do.
Comes across as a hard bastard to me, watch those cold eyes. Don't think he can play attacking football though, which means he's at his level.
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Old 9th February 2012, 17:39   #126 (permalink)
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Yeah not so psycho here:

Wut? I was talking about Moyes.
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Old 9th February 2012, 17:42   #127 (permalink)
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Wut? I was talking about Moyes.
My mistake.
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Old 9th February 2012, 18:12   #128 (permalink)
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What's so attracting about the England job ? Is it the pay (I always thought national team coaches generally earn less than club coaches) ? Is it the bullshit prestige ?
What could possibly attract Redknapp ?
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Old 9th February 2012, 18:16   #129 (permalink)
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What's so attracting about the England job ? Is it the pay (I always thought national team coaches generally earn less than club coaches) ? Is it the bullshit prestige ?
What could possibly attract Redknapp ?
He can finally sign Beckham.
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Old 9th February 2012, 18:50   #130 (permalink)
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What's so attracting about the England job ? Is it the pay (I always thought national team coaches generally earn less than club coaches) ? Is it the bullshit prestige ?
What could possibly attract Redknapp ?
The prestige obviously, and the chance to:

a) become a national treasure
b) be knighted
c) fulfill a lifetime's ambition that started 35 years ago in Seattle.
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Old 9th February 2012, 18:57   #131 (permalink)
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The prestige obviously, and the chance to:

a) become a national treasure
b) be knighted
c) fulfill a lifetime's ambition that started 35 years ago in Seattle.
Except he'll:

a) do shit with a shit team
b) win nothing
c) be on jobseekers shortly after
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:07   #132 (permalink)
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Except he'll:

a) do shit with a shit team
b) win nothing
c) be on jobseekers shortly after
Cheers Zen, can I have the lottery numbers for Saturday?

These kinds of posts are hilarious.

Even if all those points you make end up true, he will have still achieved his lifetime goal, not many of us can say that.
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:09   #133 (permalink)
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I don't either. He makes me fall asleep in interviews, he doesn't seem to have any bite to him either and always comes across as timid to me. I just can't see him handling players the way other managers do. Although I could be wrong about that, I'm obviously not privy to the way he deals with his players. It's just how he comes across.
I don't think he's timid - I reckon the players will fear him.

He's just a half decent manager in my opinion. Everton and Moyes are made for each other. Horrible stadium, horrible manager, horrible style of football.

Yet a few Cafites would love him at United. Can you imagine the shit on a stick football we'd play with Dour in charge? Good god.
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:16   #134 (permalink)
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Without turning this into a Rafa thread, anyone know what 'Arrys net spend is at Spurs?
Around 32m, spread over the 7 transfer windows since he arrived, which makes for an average of 4.5m per window.
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:26   #135 (permalink)
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What's so attracting about the England job ? Is it the pay (I always thought national team coaches generally earn less than club coaches) ? Is it the bullshit prestige ?
What could possibly attract Redknapp ?
Managing your national team? Pretty obvious what the attraction would be for someone who a) loves football and b) loves their country. Honestly!
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:30   #136 (permalink)
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Managing your national team? Pretty obvious what the attraction would be for someone who a) loves football and b) loves their country. Honestly!
The England job is rotten to the core.
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:42   #137 (permalink)
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The England job is rotten to the core.


Like I said, it's pretty obvious where the attraction comes from if you're an English football manager.
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:51   #138 (permalink)
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Cheers Zen, can I have the lottery numbers for Saturday?

These kinds of posts are hilarious.

Even if all those points you make end up true, he will have still achieved his lifetime goal, not many of us can say that.
Failing and being vilified by the media?
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Old 9th February 2012, 19:52   #139 (permalink)
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He's managed to nearly double the wage bill to £91m though.
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Old 9th February 2012, 20:03   #140 (permalink)
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He's managed to nearly double the wage bill to £91m though.
We've been over this Pete. The rise in wage bill correlates with the rise in revenue (now 11th highest in the world) and is controlled by Levy, not Redknapp. The wage bill was going along pretty nicely ( at around half yours) until we got into the CL, when all kinds of clauses were activated.

As it is, we're still significantly behind the other 5 clubs in and around us.
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Old 9th February 2012, 20:24   #141 (permalink)
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What could possibly attract Redknapp ?
Capello was being paid 6 million pounds a year. I doubt that is what Harry is getting paid at Spurs.
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Old 9th February 2012, 20:34   #142 (permalink)
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Failing and being vilified by the media?
Being his national team's manager you twerp.
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Being his national team's manager you twerp.
I should think he'd be better off winning things, which he has more chance of at Spurs.
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Old 9th February 2012, 20:46   #144 (permalink)
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I'd love to see Holloway in charge of England.

Well actually I wouldn't, because I actually like him, and the job slowly turn him into some kind of mad, cretinous gargoyle, like it does everyone else
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Moyes would be the hot favourite to take over from Arry if the wheeler deeler cockny does indeed take the England job. Arry is the right man for England thats for sure!
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Old 9th February 2012, 21:17   #146 (permalink)
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I dont think Arry will take the England job

he'd miss the transfer window too much!
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Old 9th February 2012, 21:43   #147 (permalink)
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Comes across as a hard bastard to me, watch those cold eyes. Don't think he can play attacking football though, which means he's at his level.
not playing attacking football hasn't done you lot much harm - pre-Wenger, of course.
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Old 9th February 2012, 21:52   #148 (permalink)
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Hodgson 20/1, gotta be value there.
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Old 9th February 2012, 22:03   #149 (permalink)
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not playing attacking football hasn't done you lot much harm - pre-Wenger, of course.
George had a very nice side with a class midfield of Thomas, Davis and Rocastle early on. It was only after he got Ian Wright and replaced the midfield with a few donkeys that he got really defensive. The first Arsenal side I saw scored 90 goals in a season (but unfortunately let in 84!).
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Old 9th February 2012, 22:42   #150 (permalink)
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Hodgson 20/1, gotta be value there.
I don't think Spurs will go for him. It's clear from his spell at Liverpool that he's not a man cut out for managing big clubs in Champions League contention. He would be too big a risk for them.
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I wandered into the wrong thread, meant that for the England manager thread.
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I'm not so sure Harry will take the England job if he's offered it.

I think he'll stay with Spurs for the rest of this season at least and reckon there's a decent chance he'll want to stay for another crack at the CL, assuming we qualify of course.

His current contract runs until summer 2013. Levy will want him to see that out and Harry may well be inclined to go along with this. That would still leave him with the chance of taking charge of England 12 months ahead of the Brazil World Cup.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:24   #153 (permalink)
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I've laid him at 3/2 on, don't think he'll take it.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:25   #154 (permalink)
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He's got a gentleman's agreement with Levy to be released if England come calling.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:29   #155 (permalink)
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I don't know if someone's mentioned him already, but Mourinho taking over wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:32   #156 (permalink)
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He's on £10M a year at Real and likes to spend in proportion. Liverpool or City if Mancini fucks up.
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I don't know if someone's mentioned him already, but Mourinho taking over wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.
Hmmm, possibly. Didn't he say he came close last time the FA were recruiting?

Would be a decent enough option for him if a) Fergie's proposed retirement date of 2014 has any substance to it, and b) he actually has any desire to take over as United manager when Fergie calls it a day.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:37   #158 (permalink)
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He's got a gentleman's agreement with Levy to be released if England come calling.
Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter, because I doubt Levy would force him to stay against his will.

Keeping an unwilling manager is not the same as keeping an unwilling player (pace Modric) - it's just not practical because the manager is key.
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Old 9th February 2012, 23:41   #159 (permalink)
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He's on £10M a year at Real and likes to spend in proportion. Liverpool or City if Mancini fucks up.
It'd cost a lot to get him, certainly. But Spurs haven't been tight with transfer spending or wages over the past few years.

He'd be entering into a nice situation there as it stands: good squad, more than likely in the CL next season, and again, he'd have money to spend. Not to the same extent he's had at Madrid, but not an insignificant amount. Plus, the job might appeal to his ego: a side that's threatened to do something significant for decades but hasn't really had the wherewithal to push on, and he might think he's the man to do it.
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Well he's off in May then?
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