Jurado

Scholesy

Changed the game for Athletico last night. The small playmaker, who I would liken to Iniesta. Everytime I watch him play, he is great. He is similar to Modric, and can play on the left or behind a striker. I would prefer him to Silva easily. I think soon he will be at one of the top clubs, and I would like it to be us.

Anyone else feel he is very underated?

Xander45

Not seen enough of him. Didn't see anything special about him last night though.

Stretch

SharkyMcShark

Fuckin hell

Eto'odinho

Here we go again. Whatever happened to Norwood?

HsJ

strange one. I didn't think he was That good to be honest.

Nor did I think either of the teams were that good yesterday. A lot of misplaced passes.

We should look at someone who is ready to step up to a bigger stage now...not someone who will be ready in a few years.

prateik

why not sign crainey . hull are relegated and he can play on the left and the middle too

tom crainey

Ekeke

He's a good player and I've kept an eye on him since he was on loan at Mallorca. I doubt he'll be at a top club before the end of the next season as he's only shown flashes for Atletico so far, rather than stamping his name on the teamsheet with any authority.

Karel_Poborsky

Tom Cairney

Nani Nana

I thought he has an extraordinary eye for a pass

Ekeke

When he scores, they tend to be brilliant goals also.

cw1984

Zamora going off is what changed the game.

Tumbling-Dice

Very strange decision that was. I wasn't paying full attention to the match as I was watching the play offs. Was he injured ?

cw1984

Yes. Aggravated his achillies.

Tumbling-Dice

Aah cheers, that explains it. Fulham were playing well and bossing possession for the short spell I watched, Zamora was quality. Then Atletico started to dive and roll around a lot feigning injury (started with their keeper doing it) and gradually played their way back into it and at that point I switched it off to concentrate on the game I was most interested in, being the more entertaining. I watched enough diving and shenanigans to last for a lifetime in the last Inter v Barca game.

Very disillusioned with European football at the moment, give me a league play-off game any day.

Spammy

He's nothing special. Watched him for a while and he's just another run-of-the-mill Spanish attacking midfielder.

Cold_Boy

I thought he is very under rated.

I have always rated him since the umder-something tournament a couple of years back.

Very good talent however not developed in the last couple of years.

Chadwick's Acne

Myxomatosis

Do you just pick players at random to hype up? He's just your average Spanish attacking midfielder.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He is nothing like Iniesta.

Interista

I think a very underrated Atletico player is Alvaro Dominguez, aside from last night I watched him in other two games and he gave me the impression to be a brilliant defender. Last night he made absolutely no mistakes. I can't say much about Jurado, I didn't find him impressive.

Scholesy

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

That stupid smiley wont change the fact my statement is 100% Correct. Unlike you I've watched both since they came out. I don't base my opinions on just one game.

Scholesy

I have watched him more than one time, since I saw him at the U21 Euro's. He has always been one of the best players on the pitch, usually coming off the bench, and can play anywhere across the midfield with superb vision and control.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He doesn't posses the defensive abilities of Iniesta, nor the tactical acumen. In fact He is more similar to Valeron but with superior dribbling ability. He is far from special.

I_live_cement

The commentator last night kept calling him "Gerrardo". Got on my tits.

Ole's_toe_poke

He is no Guthrie or Delfouneso.

Orton

I've watched Atletico for a good few years now. He's good but he's nothing special. He seems to make the wrong decision quite often. His passing isnt great and his shootings a bit mediocre though to be fair he has scored a few decent goals this season. A bit drastic to say he changed the game when it was a hoof up the park which Aguero showed his brilliance to keep it in. Thats what changed the game.

Orton

What game did you watch. You listened to them commentators too much. Fulham were a dirty side Etuhu must have made about 15 fouls last night and still didnt get booked

FreakyJim

I've watched every game Atletico and Mallorca have played the last 5 years and have not missed a single u18 game Jurado has played during his Real Madrid time. So I can safely conclude he's not all that.

Domzi

i've watched every game, ever.

Snow

Him and Duff were a doubt before the game. I was surprised to see both of them start but I think Hodgson would be hoping they'll be leading when the time came to take them off so he could comfortably go to his man behind ball European style.

Tumbling-Dice

Are you trying to say a team consisting of Reyes and a bunch of Spaniards weren't diving and rolling around ?

If you'd read my post properly you'd know I only watched snippets of the game as I watched the Cardiff Leicester game, what I did witness however was De Gea going down feigning injury in the second half trying to get a Fulham lad sent off, various other examples of gamesmanship and generally what was looking to be an utterly shite game of football which is sadly becoming a pattern for European football this season now United are out of Europe.

But don't just take my word for it,

You get the idea ?

That's from a quick scan of a couple of pages of the match thread, I'm sure there's more. It's epidemic in the continental game at present and it's fucking killing the game and the referees are doing fuck all about it. I've watched all four play off semi final legs so far and they've all been cracking games played in the right spirit, no cunts rolling around holding their faces trying to gain advantage by getting a fellow player sent off, just two teams having a proper go at each other, plenty of goals and attacking football and generally a credit to the game. The two Champion's League semis were utter fucking dross, especially the second legs and that Europa League final the other night didn't sound much better from what I read on here or look much better from the little snippets I saw of it.

Now I don't know what game you were watching but you are coming across as a bit of an Atletico fanboi here and quite possibly a bit blinkered and probably immune to the shite that is passing itself off as European football nowadays.

Ekeke

He was absolutely shite in his first season in the Atletico first team. Made loads of mistakes leading to goals. But he was just a young defender... This season he's been one of the best defenders in la liga. Thats not really saying much... But outside of Madrid and Barcelona, he's probably the CB you'd want to get a hold of due to his form this season and young age.

Ekeke

As for Jurado he's not so far off Silva at all and this time I can see why Scholesy likes him. I wouldnt rule out him having a better season than Silva next season.

But yeah no top club will be taking him this summer is my bet. Next summer after a good league season.

kouroux

Yeah but all the guys you quoted were generally (if not all of them) Fulham fans for that match so it would make sense to vent their frustration that lively.
I thought it was the typical English vs Spanish encounter : one team willing to play football and the other defending and counter attacking with long balls.The rest (the antics and cheating) was done by both teams

Tumbling-Dice

A dive is a dive. I'm sure there was a quote in the thread about Duff taking a tumble aswell. My point is not one of Fulham v Atletico, it's about the dire entertainment value of the last few rounds of European games and the poor officiating that goes with it.

As I said earlier, I watched brief snippets, not the whole game. There was one period of the match in the second half which coincided with HT in the game I was watching and it was all Fulham attacking and bossing possession. This was in the lead up to Zamora going off. The very use of the word 'typical' implies you are generalising.

In equal proportion ? The impression I get is one team was trying it on a lot more than the other. I witnessed their keeper trying to get a Fulham lad sent off for a start off, he was never touched, that was a feckin disgrace. Aguero trying to win a penalty near the end of normal time with a shameful dive. The point is not a Fulham v Atletico one anyway, it's the amount of this shit going on in the European game and the fact that despite a so called 'lower standard of play' in the English lower leagues, the football is ten times more entertaining.

Tumbling-Dice

Anyway I've taken this thread way off topic. This should be in another thread.

Myxomatosis

I think you're ignoring how widespread it is in the English game as well. Not as bad, no, but I still see countless dives and soft fouls in each and every Premier League game.

krazyrobus

Never been impressed by him. He fits Athletico very well. Talented but very inconsistent.