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Simon Adebesi · 7th February 2012, 14:23

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Originally Posted by finneh

I'd say that Kenny is championing the use of ignorance as a defence to racism, rather than defending a racist act in itself (subtle difference)

I think in Kenny's warped mind he thinks it's similar to him stealing an apple in a Country where the punishment for stealing an apple is the severing of ones hands, and then feeling incredibly aggrieved that he has had his hands chopped off.

Between him and Redknapp, it certainly seems to be in vogue at the moment as a line of defence.

Simon Adebesi · 7th February 2012, 14:24

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

So when are they going to tell us why he's innocent?

"We accept the guilty verdict" = we believe he is innocent?

This makes no sense, and again, requires you to believe that Dalglish and Liverpool FC genuinely believe Luis Suarez was innocent, which, when you look at things with any slight degree of sense, just plainly isn't the case.

Yes you are right, it doesnt add up.

noodlehair · 7th February 2012, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Simon Adebesi

Yes you are right, it doesnt add up.

I can see what you and Baldwin are saying, and I don't disagree in a way.

They're not deliberately coming out and trying to defend racism, but they are deliberately pretending one of their players has done nothing wrong when they know and have accepted he's guilty of something that constitutes racism...it ends up with the result being one and the same thing when you handle it as poorly as Liverpool have.

and it's actually Kenny that's been a) in charge, and b) chief instigator during the whole affair, and in most positions where you have a public responsibility of any level, his behaviour would have seen him sent packing...or he'd have been reigned in very early doors. Similar to how Chelsea have handled John Terry.

marjen · 7th February 2012, 14:48

He's like putting a fanatical fan in charge of your club.

Or like putting vuc in charge of Serbia.

Badunk · 7th February 2012, 15:10

Lots of Liverpool fans felt he was in cahoots with the previous owners and chairman, and that he was instrumental in getting rid of Benitez. It could be that a part of this siege mentality bullshit has been an attempt to deflect attention away from his role in getting rid of FSW.

I dont think it has played a massive role, but it could be one of the factors which has led him to behave so appallingly.

Commadus · 7th February 2012, 15:14

SAF has class Kenny does not.

SAF would have never done what Kenny has.

kouroux · 7th February 2012, 15:24

KKK is a fucking caveman.His time is past it, his comments on Suarez and how he should never have gotten banned are a disgrace.He just cannot let it go, pure lemon is not bitter enough next to him

Simon Adebesi · 7th February 2012, 15:29

So do people think this whole racism row will spell the end for Kenny? That the negative publicity will be too much for Henry and he will be seen as having fumbled his handling of it and it will ultimately persuade the owners to get a new manager? Or will he manage to weather this storm?

I guess what I am asking is, taking into account matters on and off the football pitch, do people expect Kenny to be manager of Liverpool next season?

kouroux · 7th February 2012, 15:39

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Originally Posted by marjen

He's like putting a fanatical fan in charge of your club.

Or like putting vuc in charge of Serbia.

Sparky_Hughes · 7th February 2012, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Simon Adebesi

So do people think this whole racism row will spell the end for Kenny? That the negative publicity will be too much for Henry and he will be seen as having fumbled his handling of it and it will ultimately persuade the owners to get a new manager? Or will he manage to weather this storm?

I guess what I am asking is, taking into account matters on and off the football pitch, do people expect Kenny to be manager of Liverpool next season?

I expect KKK to be a gin soaked homeless old tramp giving blowjobs for white lightening, ranting about how Liverpool are being victimised and its all Manchester United fault and how NO ONE DOES THIS TO KENNY DALGLIESH DAMN IT!!!!

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Crustanoid · 7th February 2012, 16:31

Sir Alex Ferguson tells football authorities to clamp down on racism
• Manchester United manager shocked by recent events
• Dalglish claims Luis Suárez should never have been banned

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Sir Alex Ferguson has called for the authorities to crack down hard on racism in football.

The Manchester United manager has been close to the centre of one such controversy – his defender Patrice Evra was racially abused by Liverpool's Luis Suárez, who has just completed the eight-match suspension imposed by the Football Association as punishment.

Suárez is set to come face to face with Evra again at Old Trafford on Saturday and the Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, has already stoked the fires ahead of the match by saying he does not believe the Uruguayan should have been banned.

Other incidents have seen several fans arrested after allegations they racially abused players, while the Chelsea defender John Terry is to stand trial in July to deny a charge that he racially abused Queens Park Rangers' Anton Ferdinand, brother of United's Rio Ferdinand.

Ferguson has been shocked by the re-emergence of the problem and said a tough line is needed. He told CNN: "I don't understand at all where it's coming from.

"This is a moment where we have to take stock and we should do something about it if it's surfacing again, and be really hard and firm on any form or shape of racism.

"There have been a couple of examples recently which is not good. In 2012, you can't believe it. It was obvious maybe 20 years ago and the improvements have been for everyone to see.

"I have had some fantastic black players, absolutely magnificent black players, and with every one of them I have enjoyed my working relationship with them."

Dalglish risked reigniting a row with United with his comments about Suárez after the striker came off the bench during the 0-0 draw with Tottenham Hotspur.

"We don't think he should ever have been away but we are delighted to get him back," said the Scot.

United need to win against Liverpool to keep them in touch with Manchester City and Ferguson believes the point his side achieved at Chelsea, coming back from 3-0 down to draw 3-3, could prove crucial in the title race.

Ferguson admitted his mind was turning to "damage limitation" after Chelsea moved into a 3-0 lead after half-time at Stamford Bridge.

He said: "It was a funny thing, in the first half we dominated it and then came the own goal and at half-time we were saying 'we are going to win this match as we are the better team'.

"But after losing two goals in a few minutes after half-time at that moment we were thinking damage limitation, get home and start again.

"But in true fashion in terms of the character and history of the football club they never gave in and kept going and deserved a point and that point may be one that does it for us – you never know."

Sir Alex Ferguson tells football authorities to clamp down on racism | Football | The Guardian

I think it's clear where it is coming from

VeevaVee · 7th February 2012, 18:22

What an absolute fucking moron this dickwad is.
To make matters worse the news seems to just skim over it and refuse to condemn him so none of the sheep notice an issue.

Can 4chan or something not fuck about with him big time? I'd love that.

Crumpsall Red · 7th February 2012, 18:37

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

He hasn't offered any defence of Suarez's character. He's simply stated that he thinks it's unfair to ban him for being a racist, repeatedly.

When he starts either defending Suarez's character or recognising that punishing people for racism isn't wrong, you might have a point. Until then, there isn't really any hysteria. There's just Kenny Dalglish, defending racism.

That is exactly what I believe he is doing, and he's doing it deliberately. He has said on a number of occasions that the truth will come out one day and that there is more information to come from the Liverpool camp.

So where is it?

Truth is we will never hear it because there is nothing else to come out, Suarez abused Evra, got caught and got punished.

I believe that Dalglish knows that Suarez was guilty but that deep down he doesn't think it's a big deal - a bit like Blatter and Poyet, Evra shouldn't have 'squealed'. That's what is making him angry and unable to drop it. A Liverpool player got an 8 game ban for 'something or nothing'.

The man is a disgrace and should be ashamed of himself. I really hope he gets dogs abuse on Saturday.

noodlehair · 8th February 2012, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Suarez

I knew what I did and there is a kind of football law that says 'what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch and that's the end of the story'

This is what Dalglish is defending. Knowingly and on purpose.

In order to believe he isn't defending racism, you now also have to believe that he doesn't believe Luis Suarez.

Why does he still have a job?

Varun_Utd · 8th February 2012, 08:33

He's still at the job because he is Dalglish and what he means to the club. anyone else would never take the stance he has done during the entire saga. He knows they cant sack him and that he'd have the fans behind him regardless and he takes advantage of that.

marjen · 8th February 2012, 08:36

He's holding the american owners for ransom basically.

SteveJ · 8th February 2012, 17:44

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Now Dalglish refuses to close the door on the issue. Indeed, he provokes a new sense of injustice, a new certainty that the dispute remains a raw, untreated sore on the face of football.

This would be a lot easier to accept if Dalglish and the ownership of Liverpool had shown the courage of their belief that Suarez was innocent and fought his conviction. They had that option but they compromised. They chose the role not of fighters for truth but victims of injustice. You cannot have it both ways.

Cool heads are needed – yet Dalglish still fuels the fires - The Independent

championo · 8th February 2012, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Suarez

'I was not depressed at all [during suspension]. I knew what I did and there is a kind of football law that says "what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch and that's the end of the story".'

Read more: Luis Suarez refuses to apologise to Patrice Evra | Mail Online

This view point should convince everyone that the guy did what Evra said he did. Is Kenny's position the same that what happens on the field stays on the field or his position is that Suarez did not such thing?

Ramshock · 8th February 2012, 18:08

The only thing I can think off in KK defense,not that I want to defend him, is he considers himself an old school manager and in his day it was part and parcel off the game. The long break between manager jobs he has means he hasnt moved with the times. Theres no way Kenny can play the stupid card because its well known how crafty he is.

golden_blunder · 8th February 2012, 19:59

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Dear Mr X,

Thank you for contacting the Football Association.

We take into consideration your views and as The Football Association we will always act where we deem it appropriate to do so. On this matter, The FA will be taking any action, pending legal advice

It is our full intentions to make Mr Dalglish aware of the century he has found himself in

We do appreciate all of the feedback we receive from supporters. This feedback is collated and used to build a picture of public opinion and is subsequently fed back internally within the organisation. Please rest assured your comments will form part of this feedback process.

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asked if there was any action going to be taken in regards to KD openly questioning the FA's actions on the matter

Badunk · 8th February 2012, 20:01

We should have a sweepstake for when Dalglish will actually stfu about this issue.

I bagsy 'never'.

Badunk · 8th February 2012, 20:04

They seriously said 'the century he has found himself in'?

Quality

Badunk · 8th February 2012, 20:07

Mind you, I notice that there isnt a full stop at the end of that particular sentence, so have you edited it?

M'n'M · 9th February 2012, 11:32

Clearly fake.

M'n'M · 9th February 2012, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Badunk

Lots of Liverpool fans felt he was in cahoots with the previous owners and chairman, and that he was instrumental in getting rid of Benitez.

Well done, in all the years and all the shite that's quite possibly the most ridiculous made up bollocks I've ever read. Thanks for the laugh.

Sparky_Hughes · 9th February 2012, 11:56

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Originally Posted by M'n'M

Well done, in all the years and all the shite that's quite possibly the most ridiculous made up bollocks I've ever read. Thanks for the laugh.

I dont know.....I think "next year is our year" trumps it.

Legend16 · 9th February 2012, 12:05

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Originally Posted by M'n'M

Well done, in all the years and all the shite that's quite possibly the most ridiculous made up bollocks I've ever read. Thanks for the laugh.

You've heard of RAWK? Familiar with their work?

M'n'M · 9th February 2012, 14:51

Yes and No I've never been on it.

Badunk · 9th February 2012, 15:22

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Originally Posted by M'n'M

Well done, in all the years and all the shite that's quite possibly the most ridiculous made up bollocks I've ever read. Thanks for the laugh.

Ok, maybe not 'lots', but some did.

Official- Rafa's Gone - Who's Next?

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Gutted. Purslow and Dalglish can fuck off aswell.

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agree.

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Kenny & his pet snake to look for a new manager, what a fucking shambles.

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Really hope to see Kenny leave soon too.

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I really hope Kenny doesn't get into bed with these twats.
If he takes over as manager, then i'm afraid he will lose all my respect.

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he is already in bed with purslow.

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I wish all this talk of O'Neill and Hodgson would just FUCK OFF. And Dalglish for that matter.

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Kenny apparently helping Purslow find new manager, knocks me sick.

cesc's_mullet · 9th February 2012, 15:53

EricaNo7 · 9th February 2012, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Sparky_Hughes

I dont know.....I think "next year is our year" trumps it.

Kraftwerker · 9th February 2012, 17:22

M'n'M has been on a shite talking frenzy today.

Redlambs · 9th February 2012, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

M'n'M has been on a shite talking frenzy today.

He's done a runner after a few simple questions, like bjred did.

My guess is they don't really post on Rawk, there's plenty of other liverpool forums that are a bit more civilised and look down on that shit hole, but like most Liverpool fans their thinking on Kenny and the whole Suarez thing does echo what the rawkites think and say.

EricaNo7 · 9th February 2012, 18:19

Where did Sam Gamgee go?

Legend16 · 9th February 2012, 18:35

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Originally Posted by M'n'M

Yes and No I've never been on it.

never been on it? never read any posts from there shown on here either? yeah ok

Talking Vulture · 10th February 2012, 14:52

Banned TalkShite and some journos today

Maciek · 11th February 2012, 14:55

What a fucking idiot in his post-match interview. Well, not only.

Eyepopper · 11th February 2012, 14:55

It's all Skys fault, little Luis shouldn't be blamed for anything....

Dobba · 11th February 2012, 14:55

He is an absolute fucking cunt.

Wonder Pigeon · 11th February 2012, 14:56

Cool as a cucumber as always.

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marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	He's like putting a fanatical fan in charge of your club. Or like putting vuc in charge of Serbia.

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Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kagawacafe.net Posts: 5,789	Lots of Liverpool fans felt he was in cahoots with the previous owners and chairman, and that he was instrumental in getting rid of Benitez. It could be that a part of this siege mentality bullshit has been an attempt to deflect attention away from his role in getting rid of FSW. I dont think it has played a massive role, but it could be one of the factors which has led him to behave so appallingly.

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Commadus First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,794	SAF has class Kenny does not. SAF would have never done what Kenny has.

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kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 25,550	KKK is a fucking caveman.His time is past it, his comments on Suarez and how he should never have gotten banned are a disgrace.He just cannot let it go, pure lemon is not bitter enough next to him

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Simon Adebesi First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth. Posts: 6,061	So do people think this whole racism row will spell the end for Kenny? That the negative publicity will be too much for Henry and he will be seen as having fumbled his handling of it and it will ultimately persuade the owners to get a new manager? Or will he manage to weather this storm? I guess what I am asking is, taking into account matters on and off the football pitch, do people expect Kenny to be manager of Liverpool next season?

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VeevaVee First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,292	What an absolute fucking moron this dickwad is. To make matters worse the news seems to just skim over it and refuse to condemn him so none of the sheep notice an issue. Can 4chan or something not fuck about with him big time? I'd love that.

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Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	He's still at the job because he is Dalglish and what he means to the club. anyone else would never take the stance he has done during the entire saga. He knows they cant sack him and that he'd have the fans behind him regardless and he takes advantage of that.

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marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	He's holding the american owners for ransom basically.

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Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 10,350	The only thing I can think off in KK defense,not that I want to defend him, is he considers himself an old school manager and in his day it was part and parcel off the game. The long break between manager jobs he has means he hasnt moved with the times. Theres no way Kenny can play the stupid card because its well known how crafty he is.

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Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kagawacafe.net Posts: 5,789	We should have a sweepstake for when Dalglish will actually stfu about this issue. I bagsy 'never'.

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Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kagawacafe.net Posts: 5,789	Mind you, I notice that there isnt a full stop at the end of that particular sentence, so have you edited it?

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