The Last Man Standing Game

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:11

The Premise is simple: Pick a winner each week.

Rules.

Spoiler

Example:

Quote:

Hard: Arsenal
Next Week: Manchester United
Week After: Chelsea

Easy: QPR
Next Week: Newcastle
Week After: Stoke City

It is very useful to keep at least on week ahead in case you forget! Use it!

Legendary, Current Runs
1. Dan Nistelrooy: 3 points - Arsenal, Tottenham, Man Utd
2. Damien1990: 2 points - Tottenham, Man Utd
3. Wittmann45: 1 point - Tottenham, Bye

Painless, Current Runs
1. thoward: 4 points - Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man Utd
2. Damien1990: 1 point - Blackburn

Legendary, the Hall Of Fame
1. thoward: First Place, 7 points: Weeks 1-7
2. kafta: Second Place, 6 points: Weeks 1-7
2. Makki: Second Place, 6 points: Weeks 1-7
4. thoward: 5 points: Weeks 9-13
4. Damien1990 5 points: Weeks 6-10

Painless, the Hall Of Fame
1. senorgregster: First Place, 7 points: Weeks 6-13
2. thoward: Second Place, 6 points: Weeks 1-9
2. Wittmann45: Second Place, 6 points: Weeks 8-13
4. DanNistelrooy: 4 points: Weeks 5-8

This Weeks Fixtures

Saturday - 12:45: Norwich - Chelsea
Saturday - 15:00: Everton - Blackburn
Saturday - 15:00: Fulham - Newcastle
Saturday - 15:00: QPR - Wigan
Saturday - 15:00: Stoke - West Brom
Saturday - 15:00: Sunderland - Swansea
Saturday - 15:00: Wolves - Aston Villa
Saturday - 17:30: Bolton - Liverpool
Sunday - 13:30: Man City - Tottenham
Sunday - 16:00: Arsenal - Man Utd

(10 days later) Midweek Fixtures

Spoiler

Fixtures
Results

YOU MAY JOIN AND REJOIN AT ANY POINT, New Players always welcome

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:15

i dont really get what is the point of the game if you can reenter each week.

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino

i dont really get what is the point of the game if you can reenter each week.

Your highest score will remain as a highest score. Aka, go on an 8 game run, and it will go on the "high scores" bit in the original post. Can you go on a legendary unbeatable 12 game winning run?

If I was cool I'd have replied to that: Then why do you bother watching football. But I'm not cool.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:18

12 games? its never been done

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:23

i mean even even if you manage to pick each game on 60% average winning chance. to win 12 you only have 0,3%. its just too improbable. It cant be done.

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino

12 games? its never been done

Really? I don't think setting the bar at 8 wins to start getting your choices back is that hard, on most days a few games will have winners that could be predicted with an 80% probability (a good team vs a bad team shall we say), then you have a few teams who will go on losing streaks every now and again, obviously you need a bit of luck.

I could do it so that a draw keeps your score whilst a loss resets it to 0, but that is a lot more work on my account (well slightly more work).

Cutch · 22nd September 2011, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino

i mean even even if you manage to pick each game on 60% average winning chance. to win 12 you only have 0,3%. its just too improbable. It cant be done.

A previous lms competition i was in had around 50 participants and went on for 13 weeks. Its possible.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

Really? I don't think setting the bar at 8 wins to start getting your choices back is that hard, on most days a few games will have winners that could be predicted with an 80% probability (a good team vs a bad team shall we say), then you have a few teams who will go on losing streaks every now and again, obviously you need a bit of luck.

I could do it so that a draw keeps your score whilst a loss resets it to 0, but that is a lot more work on my account (well slightly more work).

thats a good idea. You could do it like in baseball. 2 times you can draw and keep the points but 3rd draw is a strike and counts like a loss and u rest. terrific idea , dude.

Cutch · 22nd September 2011, 21:26

You want us to pm our selections rcoobc?

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutch

A previous lms competition i was in had around 50 participants and went on for 13 weeks. Its possible.

Did you get any of your picks back, or where your choices unlimited or neither?

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutch

You want us to pm our selections rcoobc?

I'd prefer you to stick them in the thread like the Line-ups game does, unless those bumps are too annoying

Cutch · 22nd September 2011, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

Did you get any of your picks back, or where your choices unlimited or neither?

No, we'd to pick a different team every week, which is usually the case for this game.

On the other hand, with the same rules we've also had competitions lasting only a couple of weeks.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutch

A previous lms competition i was in had around 50 participants and went on for 13 weeks. Its possible.

You need a pool of 350 players to make it statistically probable that a man can reach 13th week.

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 21:29

With the amount of people that should be involved, you should get people surviving after 8-12 weeks easily. I've seen people go up to week 13 in NFL and that's harder to pick imo and that was with only about 20 people in.

I think it's slightly different, but yeah, they way I've done it is, we started with like 30 people, pick a winner and go onto the next week, lose and your done, the next week pick a new team, if they win, continue, and so....can get cut down very quickly when say Chelsea draw with a West Brom at home or something.

Speaking of Chelsea.....I'm going to go ridiculously safe for this week, and pick them.

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 21:31

I think we'll keep the rules as they are Valentino, the reason being, even if it is frustrating, a low score of say 8 is something for people to aim at, whereas if someone gets a score of say 20 it might put people off.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

I think we'll keep the rules as they are Valentino, the reason being, even if it is frustrating, a low score of say 8 is something for people to aim at, whereas if someone gets a score of say 20 it might put people off.

getting through 7 weeks of consistent success and loosing all of it on 8th just because stupid liverpool drew vs west brom at home may put some people off

Cutch · 22nd September 2011, 21:39

I'll gamble. QPR

Makki · 22nd September 2011, 21:40

Hard: Spurs

Easy: Man City

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino

getting through 7 weeks of consistent success and loosing all of it on 8th just because stupid liverpool drew vs west brom at home may put some people off

That's the point of the game. And usually when a top side draws/loses at home is the best, since it's when the most people will drop off....it's about avoiding banana skins.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

That's the point of the game. And usually when a top side draws/loses at home is the best, since it's when the most people will drop off....it's about avoiding banana skins.

not in this version. you just reset and start from the begging

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 21:48

Unless you get the highest score bro.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

Unless you get the highest score bro.

whats the highest score?

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 21:52

We'll find out in week 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 up to 20 if somebody manages to fluke getting 20 in a row, when I assume they can get to choose every team all over again, so could continue their streak.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

We'll find out in week 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 up to 20 if somebody manages to fluke getting 20 in a row, when I assume they can get to choose every team all over again, so could continue their streak.

you can pick a team again for 9th game , it says in the rules

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 21:57

Well alrite then, even better. Someone should easily be able to continue a streak until the end of the season.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

Well alrite then, even better. Someone should easily be able to continue a streak until the end of the season.

you crazy. to get a streak till the end is like 0,000003 % yeah easily.

Zen · 22nd September 2011, 22:05

Yeah but using the same Maths would say Chelsea winning this weekend is like 50/50.....whereas it's more like 98% Chelsea win, 1.9% Draw, 0.1% Swansea win.

And when you can repeat after 8 weeks, yeah getting a 20+ streak from someone is probably going to happen.

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen

Yeah but using the same Maths would say Chelsea winning this weekend is like 50/50.....whereas it's more like 98% Chelsea win, 1.9% Draw, 0.1% Swansea win.

And when you can repeat after 8 weeks, yeah getting a 20+ streak from someone is probably going to happen.

no. i assumed that every pick has on average 70% chance to win in that math. and IMO chelsea is more like 85% rather than 98.

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 22:13

I wouldn't mind trying to update two at once, Easy and Hard, easy where draws don't do anything, Hard where the draws make you lose so your vote would go like this:

Quote:

Easy: Newcastle
Next Week: Manchester United

Hard: Arsenal
Next Week: Chelsea

But that is probably too hard for the caf to keep in mind for that long

. Doing both is obviously twice as much work, but I don't think it will be anywhere near as hard as sorting out the line ups would be. Would it be too much?

Valentino · 22nd September 2011, 22:15

you wouldnt now that ,rcoobc, unless you tried , would you?

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino

you wouldnt now that ,rcoobc, unless you tried , would you?

Indeed I meant from a game players point of view. I guess we could try it. Any objections?

rcoobc · 22nd September 2011, 23:51

Updated the rules, the following format will be used.

Quote:

Hard: Arsenal
Next Week: Manchester United

Easy: QPR
Next Week: Newcastle

StuCol101 · 23rd September 2011, 19:05

Hard Chelsea

Next week hard Man Utd

easy Newcastle

Next week Sunderland

Valentino · 23rd September 2011, 19:19

Quote:

Hard Arsenal

Next week hard Man Utd

Easy Newcastle

Next week Aston Villa

go

Persian-Fred · 23rd September 2011, 19:20

Hard: Liverpool

Easy: Man CIty

Big-Red · 23rd September 2011, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

I wouldn't mind trying to update two at once, Easy and Hard, easy where draws don't do anything, Hard where the draws make you lose so your vote would go like this:

But that is probably too hard for the caf to keep in mind for that long

. Doing both is obviously twice as much work, but I don't think it will be anywhere near as hard as sorting out the line ups would be. Would it be too much?

That's actually rather easy. Add up game scores, insert score to spread sheet. Copy past scores.

Valentino · 23rd September 2011, 19:39

scousers and bitters? are you serious?

DanNistelrooy · 23rd September 2011, 23:06

Hard: Chelsea
Next week: Man United

Easy: Tottenham
Next Week: Sunderland

Danny1982 · 24th September 2011, 01:55

Hard: Chelsea
Easy: Man United

I'm not sure I understand the rules though (may be because I read them in a hurry)...

Quick question: How many points would I get and what are the consequences on my score if:

1- Chelsea win United win.
2- Chelsea win United draw.
3- Chelsea win United lose.
4- Chelsea draw United win.
5- Chelsea draw United draw.
6- Chelsea draw United lose.
7- Chelsea lose United win.
8- Chelsea lose United draw.
9- Chelsea lose United lose. (I'm pretty sure I'm f***ed up in this scenario)

???

Sky1981 · 24th September 2011, 02:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny1982

Hard: Chelsea
Easy: Man United

I'm not sure I understand the rules though (may be because I read them in a hurry)...

Quick question: How many points would I get and what are the consequences on my score if:

1- Chelsea win United win.
2- Chelsea win United draw.
3- Chelsea win United lose.
4- Chelsea draw United win.
5- Chelsea draw United draw.
6- Chelsea draw United lose.
7- Chelsea lose United win.
8- Chelsea lose United draw.
9- Chelsea lose United lose. (I'm pretty sure I'm f***ed up in this scenario)

???

You can't choose United 2 times, unless you've played 8 times.

So i'd check the schedule if i were you.

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22nd September 2011, 21:15	#2 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	i dont really get what is the point of the game if you can reenter each week.

22nd September 2011, 21:18	#4 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	12 games? its never been done

22nd September 2011, 21:23	#5 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	i mean even even if you manage to pick each game on 60% average winning chance. to win 12 you only have 0,3%. its just too improbable. It cant be done.

22nd September 2011, 21:26	#9 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	You want us to pm our selections rcoobc?

22nd September 2011, 21:29	#14 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	With the amount of people that should be involved, you should get people surviving after 8-12 weeks easily. I've seen people go up to week 13 in NFL and that's harder to pick imo and that was with only about 20 people in. I think it's slightly different, but yeah, they way I've done it is, we started with like 30 people, pick a winner and go onto the next week, lose and your done, the next week pick a new team, if they win, continue, and so....can get cut down very quickly when say Chelsea draw with a West Brom at home or something. Speaking of Chelsea.....I'm going to go ridiculously safe for this week, and pick them.

22nd September 2011, 21:31	#15 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Corrupting West Brom Posts: 17,206	I think we'll keep the rules as they are Valentino, the reason being, even if it is frustrating, a low score of say 8 is something for people to aim at, whereas if someone gets a score of say 20 it might put people off.

22nd September 2011, 21:39	#17 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	I'll gamble. QPR

22nd September 2011, 21:40	#18 (permalink)
Makki Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: freguson y u rest the ginger prawn hes most importntat playr n he cn done us much betr! Sell all them stinkiers like carick/cuberley/ and old man giggs shud go to retardment castle! Posts: 10,835	Hard: Spurs Easy: Man City

22nd September 2011, 21:48	#21 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	Unless you get the highest score bro.

22nd September 2011, 21:52	#23 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	We'll find out in week 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 up to 20 if somebody manages to fluke getting 20 in a row, when I assume they can get to choose every team all over again, so could continue their streak.

22nd September 2011, 21:57	#25 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	Well alrite then, even better. Someone should easily be able to continue a streak until the end of the season.

22nd September 2011, 22:05	#27 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Prophetville! Posts: 6,383	Yeah but using the same Maths would say Chelsea winning this weekend is like 50/50.....whereas it's more like 98% Chelsea win, 1.9% Draw, 0.1% Swansea win. And when you can repeat after 8 weeks, yeah getting a 20+ streak from someone is probably going to happen.

22nd September 2011, 22:15	#30 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	you wouldnt now that ,rcoobc, unless you tried , would you?

23rd September 2011, 19:05	#33 (permalink)
StuCol101 First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rochdale Posts: 5,018	Hard Chelsea Next week hard Man Utd easy Newcastle Next week Sunderland

23rd September 2011, 19:20	#35 (permalink)
Persian-Fred Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chelsea. Come at me bitches! Posts: 7,275	Hard: Liverpool Easy: Man CIty

23rd September 2011, 19:39	#37 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	scousers and bitters? are you serious?

23rd September 2011, 23:06	#38 (permalink)
DanNistelrooy First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,720	Hard: Chelsea Next week: Man United Easy: Tottenham Next Week: Sunderland

24th September 2011, 01:55	#39 (permalink)
Danny1982 First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Old Trafford Posts: 5,302	Hard: Chelsea Easy: Man United I'm not sure I understand the rules though (may be because I read them in a hurry)... Quick question: How many points would I get and what are the consequences on my score if: 1- Chelsea win United win. 2- Chelsea win United draw. 3- Chelsea win United lose. 4- Chelsea draw United win. 5- Chelsea draw United draw. 6- Chelsea draw United lose. 7- Chelsea lose United win. 8- Chelsea lose United draw. 9- Chelsea lose United lose. (I'm pretty sure I'm f***ed up in this scenario) ???