Ljajic Watch

Neutral · 3rd May 2012, 18:55

I thought the rumors were Ljajic said something about his dead mother that prompted the meltdown...I see it has now moved on to an imaginary disabled child.

vuc · 3rd May 2012, 19:42

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Originally Posted by pocco

Your opinion doesn't count because your head is so far up your arse when it comes to Serbian players you can't even be relied upon to give a reliable opinion.

I saw the u18 tournament and he looked average it best. Id say he didn't/doesnt hold a candle to some of the talents we had/have.

Ok glad we got that out the way.

You were saying how he didn't impress in U18, yet he was better in an older age category. Do you know see what I am trying to say here?

It's largely an irrelevant point, but whatever.

Nani Nana · 3rd May 2012, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Neutral

I thought the rumors were Ljajic said something about his dead mother that prompted the meltdown...I see it's now moved on to an imaginary disabled child.

Incredible is it not... Not as much as people who claim to know the player and yet jump on the first bandwagon thrown their way

It would be interesting to know who had an interest in spreading such rumours to defend a 52y.o. assaulting a 20 y.o...

Italian elegance

Ramshock · 3rd May 2012, 21:48

Well it clears up why we didnt taken him on. Fergie must have seen or heard something.

dev1l · 4th May 2012, 06:20

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Originally Posted by KM

Ljajic is also suspended by the club. As I said earlier, he is apparently bit of a twat considering how he pissed off the previous Fiorentina manager aswell. Maybe his attitude was the reason why United dropped out of the deal.

According to a fiorentina fan, friend of mine, Rossi is known to be a gentleman and they were surprised by his reaction. His impression is that ljajic is a bit of twat...

dev1l · 4th May 2012, 06:24

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Originally Posted by Nani Nana

Incredible is it not... Not as much as people who claim to know the player and yet jump on the first bandwagon thrown their way

It would be interesting to know who had an interest in spreading such rumours to defend a 52y.o. assaulting a 20 y.o...

Italian elegance

I dont understand your argument - both a 20 yo and a 52 yo are grown ups.

Nani Nana · 4th May 2012, 07:08

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Originally Posted by dev1l

I dont understand your argument - both a 20 yo and a 52 yo are grown ups.

well I wish i did not understand your argument as well - sadly I do and it's fucking shit.

NoLogo · 4th May 2012, 07:47

Well it was very unprofessional from Ljajic but honestly the coach should have just thrown him out of the team. A reaction like his is an absolute no go and he should never again get a manager job in his life if you ask me.

DevilRed · 4th May 2012, 08:14

Well can't say the Serie A doesn't have its fair share of nutcase coaches. Most of them are serial liars like mancini. Wasn't too long ago that ancelotti would smoke cigarrettes in the dugout such is the audacity of italian football.

The manager was rightly fired for putting his hands on lljaic in that fashion. Although im sure SAF has done his fair bit behind closed doors in the past.

Walrus · 4th May 2012, 08:19

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

dev1l · 4th May 2012, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Walrus

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

Yet another big talent with an attitude problem..

Antisocial · 4th May 2012, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Walrus

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

Indeed; it that were the case then it makes a lot more sense than any of the other reasons that was floated at the time we pulled the plug.

JustAFan · 4th May 2012, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Walrus

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

It came down to the work permit, in an article a month or so after even Ljajic said he could not get the working papers.

CLK_FPC · 5th May 2012, 07:29

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Wishful thinking in this case. There is little doubt this lad is a special talent with the right type of attitude to boot. Only injury or Rafa Benitez can stall his development.

My only regret is he could have been a start for us. But us not keeping him has given a chance to the likes of Obertan, Cleverly, Petrucci and Eikrem maybe even Bebe to be just that for us. That's some reasonable consolation right there.

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That hindsight thing is a bitch

Seriously I never really had an opinion, remember people saying we turfed him in favour of the likes of Cleverley etc.

When Ljajic was playing well in Jovetic's absence I thought perhaps we missed out but even then he wasn't setting the world alight.

Pretty sure Ljajic was forgotten at the start of the season when Clev was doing well. It's the nature of such things.

I don't think this situation vindicates our decision not to sign him but the fact he hasn't gone kicked on SO FAR is a little more comforting considering some expected he would be the Serbian Messi and we would have egg on our faces.

Ekeke · 5th May 2012, 08:29

As someone who doesnt really watch them (except maybe in european competition sometimes) Fiorentina seem a really weird team to me. They always seem to have a couple of highly rated young players and one or two strong players at the current time... Yet they never seem to be challenging for the top places. Sometimes I check on them and they're mid table. Do they always have some really weak positions holding them back or something?

Sarni · 5th May 2012, 08:37

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

As someone who doesnt really watch them (except maybe in european competition sometimes) Fiorentina seem a really weird team to me. They always seem to have a couple of highly rated young players and one or two strong players at the current time... Yet they never seem to be challenging for the top places. Sometimes I check on them and they're mid table. Do they always have some really weak positions holding them back or something?

Serie A is a very even league with plenty of good but no top class teams. You got Milan, Juventus, Inter, Roma, Lazio, Napoli and Udinese who are very good and occasionally the likes of Genoa, Fiorentina, Palermo etc. join them at the top. Fiorentina were 4th in 2009 and went through in the CL eliminating Liverpool, they were very unlucky to lose against Bayern in knock-out round. They were also 4th in 2008. Trouble is they never reached the same heights after 09-10.

Ekeke · 5th May 2012, 08:39

Yeah I remember watching both games as we were being linked with Jovetic. Thats why I'm usually surprised when I see them so far off the pace

Neutral · 5th May 2012, 08:49

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Ex-Fiorentina boss Delio Rossi apologises for attacking player

Sacked Fiorentina manager Delio Rossi has apologised for his behaviour after physically attacking one of his own players.

The 51-year-old went into the dug-out and threw punches at Adem Ljajic after the midfielder sarcastically applauded the decision to substitute him.

"I've made a mistake and I will pay for it," said Rossi. "My gesture was ugly, disgraceful and I am very saddened.

"I have never allowed myself to hit anyone, not even my children."
Delio Rossi

Rossi appeared to punch Ljajic in retaliation for his taunt

Rossi was dismissed by club president Andrea Della Valle immediately after Wednesday's game and banned for three months by the Italian Football League.

At a news conference to mark his departure, he apologised but sought to explain his actions.

"I don't compromise on certain issues," he said. "I want respect for myself, for my work, for the team I coach and for my family. These issues were raised.

"I have never said that I am a saint but you can ask the children and all the players that I have coached in the past what type of person I am."

Rossi has been replaced by team manager Vincenzo Guerini until the end of the season.

He inherits a side in 15th position, six points above the drop zone, needing a point from their remaining two games to guarantee safety from relegation.

"The job is almost done," added Rossi. "I ask the fans to be close to the players and to the Della Valle family."

He's apologized - sort of.

DFreshKing · 5th May 2012, 10:49

Is he Messi yet?

The drama around this player on here a few years ago was utter madness.

Probably the funniest time on the Cafe (football wise at least)

Black Adder · 5th May 2012, 14:55

I've read somewhere (can't find it) that he hasn't played once this season for full 90 minutes, either he comes from the bench or he's substituted in case he played from the start.

That's really poor statistic if true, his attitude could cost him nice career since talent is there just head isn't right obviously.

Sean_RedDevil · 6th May 2012, 03:46

A friend of mine (Fiorentina fan) has heard that Ljajic has said to Rossi "We'll go to Serie B because of you", i don't know if it's true but it wasn't the first trouble between both and it wasn't Ljajic's first problem with a coach.

I'm really happy that he was never a Manchester United player if it's true what the friend of mine has said to me, Ljajic thinks he's too good for Fiorentina, training isn't important for him, the fans hate him, he loves night clubs ...........

Neutral · 6th May 2012, 06:10

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Originally Posted by DFreshKing

Is he Messi yet?

The drama around this player on here a few years ago was utter madness.

Probably the funniest time on the Cafe (football wise at least)

Be fair - I didn't get too involved in the Ljajic saga...but you can't blame people for getting a little upset. We were told by Fergie and United, we were signing one of the brightest talents in Europe - hell, that we even signed another guy to help him settle in(tosic). We were supposedly in constant touch, kept tabs on this kid...he posed with Fergie, and it was only a matter of time, before he came over.

Not to mention this transfer was supposed to be fairly big - 10mil for a 17/18 year old.

And then out of the blue, the whole deal was off - with not much of an explanation, other than we've decided to not pursue the option we had to sign him. All this when even a month before that announcement, the word was, he was coming to England.

7even · 6th May 2012, 06:56

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I'm really happy that he was never a Manchester United player if it's true what the friend of mine has said to me, Ljajic thinks he's too good for Fiorentina, training isn't important for him, the fans hate him, he loves night clubs ...........

I trust Fergie in this. Off course he recieved some sort of late information of his character and attitude that they couldn't go public with and whatever happened in Fiorentina confirms that this decision was the right one.

Orton · 6th May 2012, 08:57

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Originally Posted by 7even

I trust Fergie in this. Off course he recieved some sort of late information of his character and attitude that they couldn't go public with and whatever happened in Fiorentina confirms that this decision was the right one.

I dont believe that one bit.

mufcwarm92 · 6th May 2012, 09:36

A lot of people with egg on their faces after going mental at not signing this kid. Pretty pathetic when you consider about 95% of us had never seen him play.

Kevin · 6th May 2012, 09:41

Let's not claim 'victory' just yet. He is 20 years old. One of our star players has done a mongish thing or two at that age.

If he can grow up and becomes class in a few years, the eggs will end up on the other end of the fence.

Broyphs · 28th May 2012, 11:42

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

Randall Flagg · 28th May 2012, 11:43

He appears to be a troublemaker.

Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either

Fergie knows best?

SecondFig · 28th May 2012, 11:44

I was one of those who just couldn't understand our pulling out of signing him - in retrospect I simply assume Fergie and the coaches decided his attitude was awful and pulled the plug.

One of these days I'll learn not to question SAF

SecondFig · 28th May 2012, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

He appears to be a troublemaker.

Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either

Fergie knows best?

Tosic has been decent - scored some absolutely cracking goals. Not sure he'd have ever been good enough for us, but he's hardly flopped.

My main regret is that I reckon his free-kicks are comfortably better than anyone in our first team squad right now

Solius · 28th May 2012, 11:51

Fergie was right again.

Broyphs · 28th May 2012, 11:53

No one knows whether Fergie was right because no one knows the reason he didn't go through with the deal (unless the explanation given is true, of course).

Kraftwerker · 28th May 2012, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

Imagine they imposed this rule on England.

One man team:

Trionz · 28th May 2012, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

Broyphs · 28th May 2012, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Trionz

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

I don't know, tbh. The first thing that occurred to me was that Mihajlovic has connections to Fiorentina, so perhaps it was influenced by the kerfuffle at the end of the season?

Baxter · 28th May 2012, 13:35

None of the Scottish team would be getting games, if this "rule" was here.

ILBB15 · 28th May 2012, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Trionz

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

The manager Sinisa Mihajlovic requested that anyone who wants to play for the national team has to sing the anthem or you won't be called up. Everybody who was called up to the squad for the next three friendlies agreed, including Ljajic.

He didn't sing the anthem and has been dropped.

Irrespective of wether it's right or wrong of the manager to force his players to sing the anthem, it's another example of Ljajic's shit attitude. He agrees to do something and he gets to play in the starting XI against Spain and then he completely disrespects the manager who has given him a chance even though the way he has played doesn't warrant a place in the national team.

He's basically a spoiled brat with a shit attitude and his agent has probably convinced him that he's some kind of superstar ever since playing for Partizan.

Solius · 28th May 2012, 16:17

A newbie asked me to post this

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Hello,
I would appreciate if you could post this into the Ljajic thread, as it would clear up some things:

The reason why Mihajlovic wanted the players to sing the anthem is that he wants to create an atmosphere of unity and patriotism among the players of the national team.

The reason why Ljajic refused to sing the anthem is that he isn't a Serb, but a Bosnian. He comes from a majority-Bosnian region in southwest Serbia, and the majority of people from that region want not to be a part of Serbia anymore, and don't really feel Serbia as their country.

Even if this isn't the case with Ljajic, the fact is that the anthem is Orthodox-Christian oriented, and a Bosnian Muslim could hardly sing the anthem with any kind of loyalty and positive emotions.

Don't forget that this area of the world was a venue of a horrible war not that long ago, a war caused by people not being able to tolerate other nationalities and religions.

I'm sure that Ljajic would've been seen as a traitor by most of his family and friends had he sung the anthem.

For all those reasons, I don't think that this is any additional evidence for his shit attitude. I am far from being a fan of his, but I don't think he is to blame in this particular instance.

Amar__ · 28th May 2012, 16:22

Yes, that's the reason probably, but I don't understand why didn't he picked Bosnia as his team in first place if the main reason is religion.

Orton · 28th May 2012, 16:32

But lets jump to conclusions that he's a little shit trying to cause problems in the camp, yet again!

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3rd May 2012, 18:55	#3721 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 7,312	I thought the rumors were Ljajic said something about his dead mother that prompted the meltdown...I see it has now moved on to an imaginary disabled child.

3rd May 2012, 21:48	#3724 (permalink)
Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 13,055	Well it clears up why we didnt taken him on. Fergie must have seen or heard something.

4th May 2012, 07:47	#3728 (permalink)
NoLogo First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sea wihtin a sea. Posts: 6,094	Well it was very unprofessional from Ljajic but honestly the coach should have just thrown him out of the team. A reaction like his is an absolute no go and he should never again get a manager job in his life if you ask me.

4th May 2012, 08:14	#3729 (permalink)
DevilRed First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: I saw my mate the other day, he told me he'd seen the white Pele. So I asked, "Who is he?". "He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney". Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, he goes by the name of Wayne Rooney. Posts: 5,207	Well can't say the Serie A doesn't have its fair share of nutcase coaches. Most of them are serial liars like mancini. Wasn't too long ago that ancelotti would smoke cigarrettes in the dugout such is the audacity of italian football. The manager was rightly fired for putting his hands on lljaic in that fashion. Although im sure SAF has done his fair bit behind closed doors in the past.

4th May 2012, 08:19	#3730 (permalink)
Walrus Oppressed White Male Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,565	Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

5th May 2012, 08:29	#3735 (permalink)
Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,412	As someone who doesnt really watch them (except maybe in european competition sometimes) Fiorentina seem a really weird team to me. They always seem to have a couple of highly rated young players and one or two strong players at the current time... Yet they never seem to be challenging for the top places. Sometimes I check on them and they're mid table. Do they always have some really weak positions holding them back or something?

5th May 2012, 08:39	#3737 (permalink)
Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,412	Yeah I remember watching both games as we were being linked with Jovetic. Thats why I'm usually surprised when I see them so far off the pace

5th May 2012, 10:49	#3739 (permalink)
DFreshKing Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 2,155	Is he Messi yet? The drama around this player on here a few years ago was utter madness. Probably the funniest time on the Cafe (football wise at least)

5th May 2012, 14:55	#3740 (permalink)
Black Adder Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hrvatska Posts: 1,621	I've read somewhere (can't find it) that he hasn't played once this season for full 90 minutes, either he comes from the bench or he's substituted in case he played from the start. That's really poor statistic if true, his attitude could cost him nice career since talent is there just head isn't right obviously.

6th May 2012, 03:46	#3741 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	A friend of mine (Fiorentina fan) has heard that Ljajic has said to Rossi "We'll go to Serie B because of you", i don't know if it's true but it wasn't the first trouble between both and it wasn't Ljajic's first problem with a coach. I'm really happy that he was never a Manchester United player if it's true what the friend of mine has said to me, Ljajic thinks he's too good for Fiorentina, training isn't important for him, the fans hate him, he loves night clubs ...........

6th May 2012, 09:36	#3745 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: W3103 Posts: 3,306	A lot of people with egg on their faces after going mental at not signing this kid. Pretty pathetic when you consider about 95% of us had never seen him play.

6th May 2012, 09:41	#3746 (permalink)
Kevin First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,201	Let's not claim 'victory' just yet. He is 20 years old. One of our star players has done a mongish thing or two at that age. If he can grow up and becomes class in a few years, the eggs will end up on the other end of the fence.

28th May 2012, 11:42	#3747 (permalink)
Broyphs Agent something or other's friend or the like Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Commas are important. "Come on, Barbie, let's go party" is much less sinister than "Come on Barbie, let's go party" Posts: 33,063	Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

28th May 2012, 11:43	#3748 (permalink)
Randall Flagg shitline Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,803	He appears to be a troublemaker. Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either Fergie knows best?

28th May 2012, 11:44	#3749 (permalink)
SecondFig First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober Posts: 5,815	I was one of those who just couldn't understand our pulling out of signing him - in retrospect I simply assume Fergie and the coaches decided his attitude was awful and pulled the plug. One of these days I'll learn not to question SAF

28th May 2012, 11:51	#3751 (permalink)
Solius I am a mod, I swear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everybody will be dancing and be doing it right. Posts: 49,470	Fergie was right again.

28th May 2012, 11:53	#3752 (permalink)
Broyphs Agent something or other's friend or the like Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Commas are important. "Come on, Barbie, let's go party" is much less sinister than "Come on Barbie, let's go party" Posts: 33,063	No one knows whether Fergie was right because no one knows the reason he didn't go through with the deal (unless the explanation given is true, of course).

28th May 2012, 13:35	#3756 (permalink)
Baxter Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Aberdeen. SM: Scunthorpe (Caf League), PSG( Elite League) Posts: 4,515	None of the Scottish team would be getting games, if this "rule" was here.

28th May 2012, 16:22	#3759 (permalink)
Amar__ Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 4,947	Yes, that's the reason probably, but I don't understand why didn't he picked Bosnia as his team in first place if the main reason is religion.

28th May 2012, 16:32	#3760 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 12,350	But lets jump to conclusions that he's a little shit trying to cause problems in the camp, yet again!