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28th January 2012, 22:18
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28th January 2012, 22:23
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United's signings the past 10 years that cost less than 5 million generally turn out to be flops except VDS and Park even though those 2 can be described as bargains rather than value signings. Jury is still out on Lindegaard.
Arsenal managed to sign Van Persie for 3.5 million, I think that's the kind of impact Fergie hopes one of these value signings will end up having one day but so far he's not had much luck. In the £5-10 million bracket Fergie has brought in Vidic,Evra,Smalling and Hernandez so I think Fergie should stick to signing that kind of players that ultimately cost a few million more because that's usually because they have some proven quality. Of course a £7,5 million Tosic proves there is no guarantees in that price racket either.. |
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29th January 2012, 09:00
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29th January 2012, 09:50
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Punt when you could easily just sign Torres/Carroll/tevez for big money. |
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29th January 2012, 11:42
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Good luck to him. We could all see after a little while that he probably wasn't gonna match the standards of our other strikers. Hope he has a good career at his new club.
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29th January 2012, 12:46
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Our "punts" (players up to and around £7m) in the last 10 years (sorry, I don't have this season's appearance stats):
Diego Forlan: Bought for £6.9m. Made 98 appearances, scored 17 goals. Sold for £2m. Luke Steele: Bought for £0.5m. Made 0 appearances. Sold for £? (part exchange in Kuszczak deal) Ricardo: Bought for £1.5m. Made 5 appearances. Released on free. David Bellion: Bought for £2m. Made 40 appearances. Sold for ? (possibly free, £1m also reported). Eric Djemba-Djemba: Bought for £3.5m. Made 39 appearances. Sold for £1.35m. Tim Howard: Bought for £2.3m. Made 77 appearances. Sold for £3m. Kleberson: Bought for £6m. Made 30 appearances. Sold for £2.5m. Lee Martin: Bought for £0.2m. Made 3 appearances. Sold for £1.6m. Dong Fangzhou: Bought for £0.5m. Made 3 appearances. Released on a free. Alan Smith: Bought for £6m. Made 93 appearances. Sold for £6m. Gabriel Heinze: Bought for £6.9m. Made 83 appearances. Sold for £8.2m. Liam Miller: Bought for £0. Made 22 appearances. Released on a free. Edwin van der Sar: Bought for £2m. Made 266 appearances. Retired. Park Ji Sung: Bought for £4m. Made 177 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Ben Foster: Bought for £1m. Made 23 appearences. Sold for £6m Nemanja Vidic: Bought for £7m. Made 233 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Patrice Evra: Bought for £5.5m. Made 245 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Tomasz Kuszczak: Bought for £2.125m. Made 61 appearances. Still with United. Manucho: Bought for £? Made 3 appearances. Sold for £? Rodrigo Possebon: Bought for £? Made 8 appearances. Sold for £? Fabio Da Silva: Bought for £2.6m. Made 38 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Rafael Da Silva: Bought for £2.6m. Made 72 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Zoran Tosic: Bought for £6.3m. Made 5 appearances. Sold for £8m. Ritchie De Laet: Bought for £? Made 6 appearances. Still with United. Gabriel Obertan: Bought for £3m. Made 28 appearances. Sold for £3m. Mame Biram Diouf: Bought for £2m. Made 9 appearances. Sold for £1.5m. Marnick Vermijl: Bought for £0.22m. Made 0 appearences. Still with United. Javier Hernandez: Bought for £7m. Made 45 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Bebe: Bought for £7.4m. Made 7 appearances. Loaned out for £1m. Anders Lindegaard: Bought for £3.5m. Made 2 (plus however many he's played this season) appearances. Still with United. Total spent: £92.5m. Total recouped: £44.15m Players still with United: Park, Vidic, Evra, Kuszczak, Da Silva twins, De Laet, Vermijl, Hernandez, Bebe, Lindegaard. |
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29th January 2012, 12:54
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So about 50 million spent, and we have Hernandez, Lindegaard, Park, Vidic, Evra and the twins still knocking around our first team.
Thank fuck we look for value. We've spent less on all of them than Chelsea did on Torres. |
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29th January 2012, 20:50
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29th January 2012, 21:01
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My beef is not with us signing cheap punts, its the fact that a lot of them eventually aren't even championship level...Dong, division 2 in China!!
At the very least you can say Forlan, Howard, Smith and Heinze were quite good players, but most of the rest of those are just  Surely you would think for signings of £3 million and up a player would be good enough to play at least Championship level football to a decent level after leaving us, but some of those are utter flops who wouldn't set our reserves league alight. I don't understand it, and i'd be fine if most of those went to forge careers in the lower leagues, but instead they end up at some sort of pub level. |
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29th January 2012, 21:04
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Ok...i probably exaggerated, that list isn't so bad on second look, but its the worse of those flops that amaze me that they weren't even championship level, ie, Dong, Manucho, and Bebe.
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29th January 2012, 21:07
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hmm, that will descend into a Berba debate though... |
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29th January 2012, 21:09
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Vidic, Evra, Park, Hernandez, the Twins, (and probably Lindegaard) alone are worth the £48m loss, and pale in comparison to the laughable fees Chelsea and Liverpool paid for Torres and Carroll. Our strategy of buying cheaper ones has clearly been a success. |
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29th January 2012, 21:14
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Yep. There have been some really odd ones in there though where the risk never seemed like it had any more than a 10% chance it would pay off. For the bargains we've found in the players you mentioned - plus VDS - it's not been a bad policy.
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29th January 2012, 21:19
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1st February 2012, 14:51
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All in all... these punts haven't been too bad really! |
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1st February 2012, 16:50
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Anders Lindegaard - 5-7 million
Fabio Da Silva - 4-6 million Rafael Da Silva - 4-6 million Javier Hernandez - 20 million Park Ji Sung - 4 million Nemanja Vidic - 16-20 million Tomasz Kuszczak - 2-3 million 55 million* *Based upon my best guesses of the current value of the active players at United. I aimed low on most of the players but the outlaws, current worth and money that was received is about even. Unfortunately this does not take into account wages. |
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1st February 2012, 17:00
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He must be desperate to drum up some interest from Spain or Italy. |
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1st February 2012, 17:04
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6th February 2012, 17:15
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I never mineded Diouf... he was 7th choice around here, but he went about his business of playing in the reserves and the Carling Cup without kicking up a fuss... which of course is probably part of the reason he's no longer a United player.
I hope he does well in Germany. Also... I've just noticed that this is post 666 in this thread 
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19th February 2012, 21:30
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19th February 2012, 21:30
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19th February 2012, 22:09
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Could we please sign Hannover's corner takers?
Hannover 4 - Stuttgart 2 | Football goal videos, highlights & clips - 101GG Oh, and someone please rename the thread title... It's getting on my nerves. 
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19th February 2012, 22:48
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