Michael Johnson

Isotope · 15th January 2013, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Jimy_Hills_Chin

Yeal, although he is chubby in that pic, he is quite well presented, he looks healthy.

Exactly. He's injured but can still go to school, learn new skill, or (almost) do everything he wants to do, with that kind of money. And time is still on his side to start over.

Unless there's more than meet the eye.

Sarni · 15th January 2013, 09:48

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

Bill.s.preston · 15th January 2013, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sarni

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

It depends on what he does with it. If he spends all day in the pub and/or bookies then he might have pissed it all up the wall.

Much too much, much too young!

Fortitude · 15th January 2013, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Sarni

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

If he's a typical footballer with a footballer's lifestyle and upkeep, a lot of that money will have been spent liberally over the duration of the contract.

Now, according to all the reports and rumours about him, he's more frivolous than the typical footballer, so unless he had or has some kind of kitty for his exploits, he's probably spent more than the average player would at the same age.

All comes down to how screwed on his head is with assets and finance, really... and on that score do you think he or the people that manage his funds have thought anything about the long-term?

I do think as long as he's secured some assets (house, car, etc) he's sorted for the majority of his life no matter what, but with his age and the way he seems to have led his life since being ravaged by the injuries it wouldn't be a surprise in any way if he ends up being a tragic story who we hear of being on the scrap heap in few years time.

From the little that was seen of him as an up-and-comer, he looked a talent. Can't be at all nice to have that taken away from you.

SharkyMcShark · 15th January 2013, 12:03

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...anchester-city

Has been released

Quinton Fortune · 15th January 2013, 12:10

They seem to think he was on 40k a week, bloody hell. Youd have to try hard to throw that away. Over a five year deal thats probably about 6m after tax. He's basically won the lottery without needing to buy a ticket.

pablotatt · 15th January 2013, 12:11

It's without a doubt him. I've seen him propping up far too many bars in Manchester over the last few years.

Bread · 15th January 2013, 12:15

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Originally Posted by pablotatt

It's without a doubt him. I've seen him propping up far too many bars in Manchester over the last few years.

He looks unrecognisable in that picture, is insane. Out of interest where have you seen him?

LawCharltonBest · 15th January 2013, 12:20

1) How funny is it that the first time he is spotted in years, he is in a fast food restaurant?

2) How bad is it that City only released him after that picture came out? It's like they'd forgotten he was still on their books.

I'm always right · 15th January 2013, 12:21

Don't tell bread what bars you go to, he's a sick bastard that man and he'll track you down.

Bread · 15th January 2013, 12:41

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Originally Posted by i'm always right

don't tell bread what bars you go to, he's a sick bastard that man and he'll track you down.

and i'd have got away with it if it wasn't for you meddling posters, or in this case a poster!

londonredmaniac · 15th January 2013, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Sarni

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

His lifestyle has involved clubs and casino binges...how much of that do you think is left?

Nogbadthebad · 15th January 2013, 13:00

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...anchester-city

Has been released

'Once the subject of a £10 million bid from Liverpool '

The kiss of death for any potential England saviour, nw we know why he ended up as a body double for James Corden.

Ramshock · 15th January 2013, 13:55

How does that happen to a player in this day and age with team doctors, physios, team shrinks, sport scientists and dietitians etc?

Stick · 15th January 2013, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Ramshock

How does that happen to a player in this day and age with sport scientists and dietitians etc?

He ate them by the looks of it.

Robbie Boy · 15th January 2013, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Ramshock

How does that happen to a player in this day and age with team doctors, physios, team shrinks, sport scientists and dietitians etc?

The player doesn't give a flying fuck about his career.

Some people say 'too much too young' - I don't buy that; plenty of players have had far bigger contracts at that age and are model pros. It comes down to the individual.

Count Orduck · 15th January 2013, 14:08

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Originally Posted by LawCharltonBest

1) How funny is it that the first time he is spotted in years, he is in a fast food restaurant?

2) How bad is it that City only released him after that picture came out? It's like they'd forgotten he was still on their books.

I don't think they did; according to the Guardian article they offered him the severence package before Christmas, it's just that it's only now come to light, along with that picture of him.

So in fairness to City, I think they dropped him a while back but decided not to make it public.

Wowi · 15th January 2013, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Isotope

Hard to feel sorry for an early 20's bloke getting 25k per week with nothing to do. Really.

Indeed. I'll admit that I don't know much about the injuries that has seemingly stopped him from playing as much as he wanted (only read what wiki had to offer) and while it's sad to see a talent wasted I do find it hard to feel sorry for him. If a couple of injuries and such was enough to completely take away his will to put in an effort to become something in football I don't want to think about what he'd be without the football skills. I hope for his sake that he saved up some money at least and can use that as a foundation to get on with life.

Cold_Boy · 15th January 2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Sarni

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

Oh come one seriously is it enough?

Maybe for a middle-class family.

Surely not a for a footballer or person who live a much much luxurious lifestyle.

I am not sure he has even got a mil left out of that.

rockerlad · 15th January 2013, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Shane88

When's the last time he even played? I doubt even a League 2 team would look at him in that shape, if it actually is him.

You would be suprised how super fit players are now even at non league level. They are very fit, it isnt a case of someone slightly over weight can play for them, they need to be very fit.

Rowem · 15th January 2013, 15:31

He could easily essentially retire off a few million quid. Certainly can't see him ever working a day job in order to earn what he could easily earn in interest alone.

rockerlad · 15th January 2013, 15:34

its quite said, i hope now this news is public he realised how stupid he has been, gets fit maybe joins a lower club and gets one last chance at it.

AlwaysRedwood · 15th January 2013, 15:38

Sad. That's not injuries, that's what's going on between the ears.

Now we'll just be reading about him in the papers. "Former footballer arrested again...."

Stick · 15th January 2013, 15:45

A decent agent might be able to get him back on track again.

Bill.s.preston · 15th January 2013, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Stick

A decent agent might be able to get him back on track again.

He needs to get himself in shape and issue a Hargreaves style fitness video combined with a Michael Owen style brochure.

Decotron · 15th January 2013, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Stick

A decent agent might be able to get him back on track again.

A decent agent will avoid him at this point. He needs Karl out of the Simpsons

Stick · 15th January 2013, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Bill.s.preston

He needs to get himself in shape and issue a Hargreaves style fitness video combined with a Michael Owen style brochure.

Either that or do a follow my life style documentary where he plays for a local pub team!

Decotron · 15th January 2013, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Bill.s.preston

He needs to get himself in shape and issue a Hargreaves style fitness video combined with a Michael Owen style brochure.

Like this?

Drainy · 15th January 2013, 19:04

RedRob · 15th January 2013, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Decotron

Like this?

Huzzah! The Owe-brochure piss-takes are back!

Course, I guess this mean that we'll sign him now...

Isotope · 15th January 2013, 19:14

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the lad had loads of talent, i always knew he would make it big...

rawk

RedRover · 15th January 2013, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Sarni

£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

Easy to think do when you see it rotten down, but he'll have spent money living - fast cars, big houses, holidays, watches, stuff for friends and family. Probably not a lot left, especially for a young lad who expects a career in the game.

That said, he might have a decent pension and they can draw it at 35 I think.

The main thing is though that if he had problems with the booze things could be much worse for him than losing his career.

Quinton Fortune · 16th January 2013, 11:00

He has responded, has said hes been suffering with mental health issues for the last few years and has been attending the priory clinic. Changes the story a bit!

68-99-08 · 16th January 2013, 11:03

http://fourfourtwo.com/interviews/bo...7/article.aspx

Seems to have mockingly predicted his own downfall...

In five years time I’ll be…
Retired… no, hopefully playing regularly for City in the Premiership and playing for England.

Jaybezia · 16th January 2013, 11:05

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Originally Posted by 68-99-08

http://fourfourtwo.com/interviews/bo...7/article.aspx

Seems to have mockingly predicted his own downfall...

In five years time I’ll be…
Retired… no, hopefully playing regularly for City in the Premiership and playing for England.

Wow, what a bite in the arse

Sparky_Hughes · 16th January 2013, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Bread

You're probably right that I am being unfair on Cleverley tbh, I like him a lot as a player It just does irk me slightly to see all that shite on his website when he has made about 7 first team appearences for us, I'm not usually one for moaning about footballers being on twitter etc... because they should be concerntrating more etc... but for some reason this one annoyed me!

Again the rest I agree with, I think it happens in a lot of industries now. In the same way as Xfactor contestants nearly all to a man go on about their desire for fame not the desire to be genuinley good at what they do, think with fame being so easy these day so many see it as a career option in itself.

Absolutely spot on sir.....its as if fame itself is the desired result rather than a byproduct of being genuinely good at anything. And young footballers are just as suceptable (sp?) to this as others.....Its X factor/Im a Z list nobody get me out of here "culture" and it sucks.

Bread · 16th January 2013, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Sparky_Hughes

Absolutely spot on sir.....its as if fame itself is the desired result rather than a byproduct of being genuinely good at anything. And young footballers are just as suceptable (sp?) to this as others.....Its X factor/Im a Z list nobody get me out of here "culture" and it sucks.

Ricky Gervais said something the other week about how they did a survey with school children and something ridiculous like 80% said they wanted to be 'famous'. Sums it all up really.

Sparky_Hughes · 16th January 2013, 12:06

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Originally Posted by Bread

Ricky Gervais said something the other week about how they did a survey with school children and something ridiculous like 80% said they wanted to be 'famous'. Sums it all up really.

It makes me feel old to say it but todays youth really are fucking dim.

Makes me proud of my nipper though.......6 years old and she told me over christmas she wants to be a paleontologist!! Smart arse little mare

Bread · 16th January 2013, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Sparky_Hughes

It makes me feel old to say it but todays youth really are fucking dim.

Makes me proud of my nipper though.......6 years old and she told me over christmas she wants to be a paleontologist!! Smart arse little mare

Thing is they should be saying things are totally mental but at least footballer or singing or fucking stuntman. Not just famous.

Also odd how the ones who do the least seem to be the most keen to call themselves celebrities. Kerry Katona being one.

PatrickP · 16th January 2013, 12:14

I know him. I was in his year at school. Really hope that he gets his life back on track, unfortunately I can't see it being on a football field.

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15th January 2013, 09:48	#82 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 25,740	£25k a week for 4 years adds up to more than £5m, probably around £3m to £3.5m after tax. Add that to whatever he had earned prior to getting that deal plus a signing on fee he got, which must add up to more than £1m, and you have a bloke in his mid-20s with more than £4m on his account. I'd say he won't have to do much for the rest of his life.

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SharkyMcShark Horrified Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 19,952	http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...anchester-city Has been released

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Quinton Fortune Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: van der Gouw Posts: 1,557	They seem to think he was on 40k a week, bloody hell. Youd have to try hard to throw that away. Over a five year deal thats probably about 6m after tax. He's basically won the lottery without needing to buy a ticket.

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pablotatt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,641	It's without a doubt him. I've seen him propping up far too many bars in Manchester over the last few years.

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LawCharltonBest Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2012 Location: Admiring the statue outside Old Trafford Posts: 2,305	1) How funny is it that the first time he is spotted in years, he is in a fast food restaurant? 2) How bad is it that City only released him after that picture came out? It's like they'd forgotten he was still on their books.

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I'm always right Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mêlée Island Posts: 15,933	Don't tell bread what bars you go to, he's a sick bastard that man and he'll track you down.

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Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 13,070	How does that happen to a player in this day and age with team doctors, physios, team shrinks, sport scientists and dietitians etc?

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Rowem First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 9,992	He could easily essentially retire off a few million quid. Certainly can't see him ever working a day job in order to earn what he could easily earn in interest alone.

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rockerlad Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Workington Posts: 1,544	its quite said, i hope now this news is public he realised how stupid he has been, gets fit maybe joins a lower club and gets one last chance at it.

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AlwaysRedwood First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: LA Posts: 5,862	Sad. That's not injuries, that's what's going on between the ears. Now we'll just be reading about him in the papers. "Former footballer arrested again...."

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Stick Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,511	A decent agent might be able to get him back on track again.

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Quinton Fortune Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: van der Gouw Posts: 1,557	He has responded, has said hes been suffering with mental health issues for the last few years and has been attending the priory clinic. Changes the story a bit!

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68-99-08 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 926	http://fourfourtwo.com/interviews/bo...7/article.aspx Seems to have mockingly predicted his own downfall... In five years time I’ll be… Retired… no, hopefully playing regularly for City in the Premiership and playing for England.

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PatrickP First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: On the march with Fergies Army Posts: 9,263	I know him. I was in his year at school. Really hope that he gets his life back on track, unfortunately I can't see it being on a football field.