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Old 26th March 2008, 19:37   #1 (permalink)
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Most successful player of all time
Which player do you think has enjoyed the most successful career in professional football to date?

This question begs another question: As a football fan, how do you determine the success of an individual player (past or present)?
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:38   #2 (permalink)
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In what way? Achievments or Cash?
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:39   #3 (permalink)
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Giggsy has to be up there somewhere, doesn't he have something like 20 major honours with us, he is the most decorated player in English football history
Fucking legend the guy is.
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:40   #4 (permalink)
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Maldini has to be up there. 5 CL titles.
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:47   #5 (permalink)
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Giggsy has to be up there somewhere, doesn't he have something like 20 major honours with us, he is the most decorated player in English football history
Fucking legend the guy is.
t-r-e-b-l-e!
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:49   #6 (permalink)
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Giggs, Maldini
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:51   #7 (permalink)
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Maldini probably.

Or maybe Steven Gerrard.
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:56   #8 (permalink)
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Clarence Seedorf
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:56   #9 (permalink)
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If we are talking trophies and medals, then I'm not sure many, if any, boast more than Maldini or Giggs.

If we are talking money, then surely Beckam wins that hands down ?
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:57   #10 (permalink)
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No shout for Pele?
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Old 26th March 2008, 19:58   #11 (permalink)
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Bobby Charlton

Won the League, FA Cup, European Cup and World Cup.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:00   #12 (permalink)
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Seedorf, winning the CL with three different teams is some achievement. Not sure how many people will ever do that. Few league and cups aswell im sure.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:01   #13 (permalink)
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Ronaldo is probably one of the most successful as well. Both for club, country and individually
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:03   #14 (permalink)
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I'm sure Maldini has probably won the lot as well...was he not in the Italy squad in the world cup just gone ??

I forget.

Giggs is most certainly up there, Seedorf, Gerrard i'd say because he's won everything major in the club game bar the league (unlucky stevie)
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:03   #15 (permalink)
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Pele... Trophies won, goals scored, sportsmanship.
No one else even close.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:05   #16 (permalink)
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Pihl Neal has won a fair bit.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:06   #17 (permalink)
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Maldini immediately springs to mind.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:07   #18 (permalink)
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Ronaldo is probably one of the most successful as well. Both for club, country and individually
A bit too early? but certainly on his way to becoming one of the most successful.

EDIT: Just realised youre talking about Fat Ronaldo.
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Pele... Trophies won, goals scored, sportsmanship.
No one else even close.
It's jsut a shame he's such an insufferable twat when he opens his mouth these days.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:09   #20 (permalink)
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A bit too early? but certainly on his way to becoming one of the most successful.
He is talking about The Ronado
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:15   #21 (permalink)
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Ronaldo is probably one of the most successful as well. Both for club, country and individually
Country

* FIFA World Cup
o All-Time World Cup Goalscorer - 15 Goals in 19 games in 3 World Cups
o 2006 Bronze Boot - Third highest scorer (tied) - 3 goals and 1 assist
o 2002 Golden Boot - Top scorer - 8 goals
o 2002 Silver Ball - Second best player
o 2002 Winner
o 1998 Golden Ball - Best player
o 1998 Bronze Boot - Third highest scorer - 4 goals 4 assists
o 1998 Runner-up
o 1994 Winner
* Confederations Cup: 1997
* Copa América: 1997, 1999
* Olympic Games: 1996 (3rd Place)

Club

Cruzeiro

* Brazilian Cup:1993

PSV Eindhoven

* Dutch Cup: 1996

FC Barcelona

* Cup Winners' Cup: 1997
* Spanish Super Cup: 1996

Internazionale

* UEFA Cup: 1998

Real Madrid

* Intercontinental Cup: 2002
* La Liga - Primera División champions: 2002/2003
* Spanish Super Cup: 2003

Individual

* FIFA World Player of the Year: 1996 (youngest winner), 1997, 2002
* World Soccer Player of the Year: 1996 (youngest winner), 1997, 2002
* European Footballer of the Year (Ballon d'Or): 1997 (youngest winner), 2002
* Onze d'Or: 1997, 2002
* UEFA Most Valuable Player - 1998
* UEFA Club Football Awards: Best Forward - 1998
* FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1998, 2002
* European Golden Boot: 1997
* Copa América 1999: Top Scorer
* Spanish League Top Scorer: 1996-1997, 2003-2004
* Flag of the Netherlands Dutch League Top Scorer: 1994-1995
* Intercontinental Cup MVP: 2002
* BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality: 2002
* GoldenFoot Award: 2006

Not bad.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:17   #22 (permalink)
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Beckenbauer should be in with a shout
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:18   #23 (permalink)
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He is talking about The Ronado
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Country

* FIFA World Cup
o All-Time World Cup Goalscorer - 15 Goals in 19 games in 3 World Cups
o 2006 Bronze Boot - Third highest scorer (tied) - 3 goals and 1 assist
o 2002 Golden Boot - Top scorer - 8 goals
o 2002 Silver Ball - Second best player
o 2002 Winner
o 1998 Golden Ball - Best player
o 1998 Bronze Boot - Third highest scorer - 4 goals 4 assists
o 1998 Runner-up
o 1994 Winner
* Confederations Cup: 1997
* Copa América: 1997, 1999
* Olympic Games: 1996 (3rd Place)

Club

Cruzeiro

* Brazilian Cup:1993

PSV Eindhoven

* Dutch Cup: 1996

FC Barcelona

* Cup Winners' Cup: 1997
* Spanish Super Cup: 1996

Internazionale

* UEFA Cup: 1998

Real Madrid

* Intercontinental Cup: 2002
* La Liga - Primera División champions: 2002/2003
* Spanish Super Cup: 2003

Individual

* FIFA World Player of the Year: 1996 (youngest winner), 1997, 2002
* World Soccer Player of the Year: 1996 (youngest winner), 1997, 2002
* European Footballer of the Year (Ballon d'Or): 1997 (youngest winner), 2002
* Onze d'Or: 1997, 2002
* UEFA Most Valuable Player - 1998
* UEFA Club Football Awards: Best Forward - 1998
* FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1998, 2002
* European Golden Boot: 1997
* Copa América 1999: Top Scorer
* Spanish League Top Scorer: 1996-1997, 2003-2004
* Flag of the Netherlands Dutch League Top Scorer: 1994-1995
* Intercontinental Cup MVP: 2002
* BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality: 2002
* GoldenFoot Award: 2006

Not bad.
From an idividual stand point yes, but one domestic title...i'd of thought he'd get more.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:20   #24 (permalink)
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From an idividual stand point yes, but one domestic title...i'd of thought he'd get more.
Well he won La Liga once, but also the European Cup, UEFA Cup and the CWC which is quite impressive.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:32   #25 (permalink)
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Maldini and Seedorf spring to mind. Also Giggs on an English level at least.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:34   #26 (permalink)
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I'm certain Ronaldo won the Copa del Ray too.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:37   #27 (permalink)
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Beckenbauer should be in with a shout

Yeah, won the WC as a player, coach, 3 CL on the trot and countless Bundesliga titles.

Maldini never won anything with Italy.

And didn't win that much in Italy.
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Old 26th March 2008, 20:56   #28 (permalink)
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Zidane.

Won the World cup and Euro championship for his country.

And at club level he's won Serie A, La Liga and of course the champions league. A full medals cabinet for him.
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Old 26th March 2008, 21:18   #29 (permalink)
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Maldini never won anything with Italy.

And didn't win that much in Italy.
not sure about that.

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  • Winner (5): 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 2004
  • Runner-up (3): 1996, 1999, 2003
  • Winner (5): 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003, 2007
  • Runner-up (1): 1993
  • Winner (2): 1989, 1990
  • Runner-up (3): 1993, 1994, 2003
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Old 26th March 2008, 21:50   #30 (permalink)
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