Nedved to retire

Wibble · 9th May 2008, 02:33

Great player at his peak but undoubtedly overrated in the sense that he wasn't ever good enough to be listed amongst the very best yet frequently was.

crappycraperson · 9th May 2008, 02:50

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Originally Posted by Wibble

Great player at his peak but undoubtedly overrated in the sense that he wasn't ever good enough to be listed amongst the very best yet frequently was.

tut tut tut

You know nothing about football.

enghuei · 9th May 2008, 03:14

Last time I check. These players are listed among the best of all times.

Pele, Puskas, Di Stefano, Maradona, Best, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Platini, Zidane, Ronaldo and others.

Nedved is never part of that elite group. Frankly I have never see people claim that he is.

giggs-beckham · 9th May 2008, 05:30

I always compared him to scholes, very similar in attributes and quality.
Anybody who thinks he was overrated, doesnt know football.

cesc's_mullet · 9th May 2008, 05:36

If he retires before the Juve game down in Melbourne I'll cry.

Favourite player outside of Arsenal!

Pa-vel Ned-ved! What a cracker!

Cold_Boy · 9th May 2008, 06:08

One of my most favorite players ever.

Legend!

I rate him very highly.

Johnno · 9th May 2008, 06:15

Bye Pavel, you fucker…

Giggsy PO · 9th May 2008, 06:27

The comparison to Scholes is bizarre. Scholes is one of the most natural talents you could ever seen. Nedved had a very little talent (he said that by himself) but his will and determination got him to the level where is he now. But I agree, he is underrated by some and overrated by some either. Pity that he never played in PL, I think it would be an ideal challenge for him.

FranklyVulgar · 9th May 2008, 08:00

I love Nedved, he is a wonderful player, a total pro and seems like a cracking guy.

His favourite film is braveheart!

To say he lacked tallent is rediculous, he was a complete player and extreamly influential. Wore his heart on his sleeve, i actually think i've seen him in tears on the pitch atleast 4 times.

Donado · 9th May 2008, 08:10

Fantastic fantastic player.One of my favourites.

Pronewbie · 9th May 2008, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Giggsy PO

The comparison to Scholes is bizarre. Scholes is one of the most natural talents you could ever seen. Nedved had a very little talent (he said that by himself) but his will and determination got him to the level where is he now. But I agree, he is underrated by some and overrated by some either. Pity that he never played in PL, I think it would be an ideal challenge for him.

Like Scholes, he is humble. To say that he has little natural talent and vision would be daft, or if you haven't watched many of the games he has played in.

I may get slated here but in Europe he would be considered a more complete player than Scholesy.

Kaiketsu_Zorro · 9th May 2008, 10:50

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Originally Posted by enghuei

“There comes a moment when it is right to say enough is enough because the head can’t keep doing it, even if the body can.

I always thought it was the other way round...

Cal? · 9th May 2008, 10:52

Personally I think Nedved is the 2nd best midfielder in Europe in the past 15 years or so, only behind Zidane due to the lack of memorable performances like that volley in the CL final...

Cold_Boy · 9th May 2008, 11:27

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Originally Posted by Cal?

Personally I think Nedved is the 2nd best midfielder in Europe in the past 15 years or so, only behind Zidane due to the lack of memorable performances like that volley in the CL final...

I agree.

Arguably one of the top 5 midfielders in the last 15-20 years.

Donado · 9th May 2008, 11:31

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

tut tut tut

You know nothing about football.

You said he was overrated.Which he is most definitely not.

cw1984 · 9th May 2008, 11:39

He was quality on Pro Evo - if that means anythin

Great player IMO. Always wanted us to sign him and i remember we were linked 3 or 4 times and i got excited every time

B9 from YNWA · 9th May 2008, 11:45

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Overrated a tad and before you slaughter me, he was a very very good player and had couple of brilliant season. But he was never as good as Figo or Giggs. And nowdays people listing him alonside likes of Zidane, Rivaldo, Ronaldo is just wrong.

he replaced zidane at juve and actually improve the side for it. Awesome player.

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Originally Posted by dementedaffair

If ever there was a clone of Scholesly, Nedved came the closest

They're completely different players.

Cornell · 9th May 2008, 12:27

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Originally Posted by cesc's_mullet

If he retires before the Juve game down in Melbourne I'll cry.

Favourite player outside of Arsenal!

Pa-vel Ned-ved! What a cracker!

Is their a Juve game in Sydney?

Giggsy PO · 9th May 2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Pronewbie

To say that he has little natural talent and vision would be daft, or if you haven't watched many of the games he has played in.

His coaches said that. Nedved alone said that. But yes, he maybe didn´t watch many of his own games.

Sky1981 · 9th May 2008, 16:27

World class,

but definetely not as good as Zidane, and a lil below giggs imo.

He does have a massive workrate, and not so many tricks like Zidane, which kinda make him underated.

But he is world class.

Longlivekeano · 9th May 2008, 17:38

Class act.

-Technically excellent
-Excellent wing play
-Whips tremendous crosses with both foot
-Lashes long range shots with both foot like Scholesey
-Brave as feck
-Never stops running
-Chases back
-Leadership in abudance
-Not a media attention whore like Bex...

Top football man

dementedaffair · 9th May 2008, 20:40

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Originally Posted by B9 from YNWA

They're completely different players.

I disagree mate, Mind you I am comparing both players as an attacking Midfielder. Both lethal from outside the box, excellent link up play and legends for both their respective teams.

B9 from YNWA · 9th May 2008, 20:52

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Originally Posted by dementedaffair

I disagree mate, Mind you I am comparing both players as an attacking Midfielder. Both lethal from outside the box, excellent link up play and legends for both their respective teams.

Nedved was a physical beast with a fantastic engine. He could carry the ball forward all day long. More of an incisive passer than a link-up player in the sense scholes is - a playmaker.

Think his game is more similar to Gerrard's than Scholes. Action midfielders moreso than subtle technical ones, albeit with a great deal of technique to boot.

KingEric7 · 9th May 2008, 21:01

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Overrated

Really? There are a handful of players that have played for your lot over the years that have been on Nedved's level or better.
An absolutely class player with wonderful technique.

Pronewbie · 10th May 2008, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Giggsy PO

His coaches said that. Nedved alone said that. But yes, he maybe didn´t watch many of his own games.

I don't really bother about quotes, I just enjoy the football he plays.

Cold_Boy · 10th May 2008, 08:45

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

Really? There are a handful of players that have played for your lot over the years that have been on Nedved's level or better.
An absolutely class player with wonderful technique.

Don't worry.

He moans at everything that isn't Arsenal.

Chorley1974 · 10th May 2008, 21:13

Personally... one of the players I'd most liked us to have signed in the last 10 years. A superb player.

DiaboliQue · 11th May 2008, 00:10

I'm glad there are plenty here who can appreciate the greatness of Pavel Nedved. A top player and a top competitor. Achieved so much in his career that plenty could only dream about.

One of the top 10 players of the past 15 years, without a shadow of a doubt. Just like Dennis Bergkamp, he's one of those player that we'll never see anyone similar like them. Shame he's retiring at the end of the season, watching Juve this season I thought he had enough left in the tank for at least one more season.

davisjw · 11th May 2008, 02:02

Fantastic player, one of my favorite wingers that I've had the chance to see play in my lifetime. Wouldn't go so far as to say he'd be in my all-time starting XI but clearly one of the best in the last 20 years.

I think his lack of real support comes from the fact he never played at one of the big names abroad i.e. in Spain or England. Could of done it in any of these leagues. Would of loved to have seen him at United.

I read a week ago he was in talks to play in Japan- maybe he considers playing in Japan retirement

? Think he could do a number for a MLS squad and help American football.

Sad day indeed.

crappycraperson · 11th May 2008, 02:55

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Originally Posted by DiaboliQue

I'm glad there are plenty here who can appreciate the greatness of Pavel Nedved. A top player and a top competitor. Achieved so much in his career that plenty could only dream about.

One of the top 10 players of the past 15 years, without a shadow of a doubt. Just like Dennis Bergkamp, he's one of those player that we'll never see anyone similar like them. Shame he's retiring at the end of the season, watching Juve this season I thought he had enough left in the tank for at least one more season.

I would like to see that top 10.

Off the top of my head the following players would be ahead of him:
Zidane, Fat Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Figo, Batistuta, Del Piero, Giggs, Henry, Bergkamp, Keane, Maldini, Cafu , Baggio

enghuei · 11th May 2008, 05:16

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

I would like to see that top 10.

Off the top of my head the following players would be ahead of him:
Zidane, Fat Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Figo, Batistuta, Del Piero, Giggs, Henry, Bergkamp, Keane, Maldini, Cafu , Baggio

Del Piero? Cafu?
Nedved is better that both of them.

Nedved is on par with Figo, Giggs and maybe Keane.

That's it.

9th May 2008, 02:33	#41 (permalink)
Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 33,688	Great player at his peak but undoubtedly overrated in the sense that he wasn't ever good enough to be listed amongst the very best yet frequently was.

9th May 2008, 03:14	#43 (permalink)
enghuei Cheats at Tetris Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where the locals boo on their own National Team. Funny, but true. Posts: 2,038	Last time I check. These players are listed among the best of all times. Pele, Puskas, Di Stefano, Maradona, Best, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Platini, Zidane, Ronaldo and others. Nedved is never part of that elite group. Frankly I have never see people claim that he is.

9th May 2008, 05:30	#44 (permalink)
giggs-beckham Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,218	I always compared him to scholes, very similar in attributes and quality. Anybody who thinks he was overrated, doesnt know football.

9th May 2008, 05:36	#45 (permalink)
cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: he's crazy like a moose, aussie, aussie GUUS Posts: 6,289	If he retires before the Juve game down in Melbourne I'll cry. Favourite player outside of Arsenal! Pa-vel Ned-ved! What a cracker!

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Cold_Boy Amit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: somewhere i hate to live Posts: 9,379	One of my most favorite players ever. Legend! I rate him very highly.

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Johnno Destroyer of bullies Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 5,729	Bye Pavel, you fucker…

9th May 2008, 06:27	#48 (permalink)
Giggsy PO First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shame on you Shane Vendrell. You little bastard! Posts: 9,323	The comparison to Scholes is bizarre. Scholes is one of the most natural talents you could ever seen. Nedved had a very little talent (he said that by himself) but his will and determination got him to the level where is he now. But I agree, he is underrated by some and overrated by some either. Pity that he never played in PL, I think it would be an ideal challenge for him.

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FranklyVulgar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In amoungst the pigs raising hell Posts: 1,627	I love Nedved, he is a wonderful player, a total pro and seems like a cracking guy. His favourite film is braveheart! To say he lacked tallent is rediculous, he was a complete player and extreamly influential. Wore his heart on his sleeve, i actually think i've seen him in tears on the pitch atleast 4 times.

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Donado Caf Vigilante Join Date: May 2003 Location: Goes it so. Posts: 11,026	Fantastic fantastic player.One of my favourites.

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Cal? from Redcafe (matchfixing department) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: We want our own TV deal... Posts: 11,405	Personally I think Nedved is the 2nd best midfielder in Europe in the past 15 years or so, only behind Zidane due to the lack of memorable performances like that volley in the CL final...

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cw1984 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,467	He was quality on Pro Evo - if that means anythin Great player IMO. Always wanted us to sign him and i remember we were linked 3 or 4 times and i got excited every time

9th May 2008, 16:27	#60 (permalink)
Sky1981 Fending Off the Urge Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The reminiscence of long lost glory from the past Posts: 2,800	World class, but definetely not as good as Zidane, and a lil below giggs imo. He does have a massive workrate, and not so many tricks like Zidane, which kinda make him underated. But he is world class.

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Longlivekeano Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,323	Class act. -Technically excellent -Excellent wing play -Whips tremendous crosses with both foot -Lashes long range shots with both foot like Scholesey -Brave as feck -Never stops running -Chases back -Leadership in abudance -Not a media attention whore like Bex... Top football man

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Chorley1974 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,289	Personally... one of the players I'd most liked us to have signed in the last 10 years. A superb player.

11th May 2008, 00:10	#68 (permalink)
DiaboliQue Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: I always tell the truth, even when I lie Posts: 1,594	I'm glad there are plenty here who can appreciate the greatness of Pavel Nedved. A top player and a top competitor. Achieved so much in his career that plenty could only dream about. One of the top 10 players of the past 15 years, without a shadow of a doubt. Just like Dennis Bergkamp, he's one of those player that we'll never see anyone similar like them. Shame he's retiring at the end of the season, watching Juve this season I thought he had enough left in the tank for at least one more season.

11th May 2008, 02:02	#69 (permalink)
davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,221	Fantastic player, one of my favorite wingers that I've had the chance to see play in my lifetime. Wouldn't go so far as to say he'd be in my all-time starting XI but clearly one of the best in the last 20 years. I think his lack of real support comes from the fact he never played at one of the big names abroad i.e. in Spain or England. Could of done it in any of these leagues. Would of loved to have seen him at United. I read a week ago he was in talks to play in Japan- maybe he considers playing in Japan retirement ? Think he could do a number for a MLS squad and help American football. Sad day indeed.