Pep Guardiola agrees contract with Bayern

Rooney in Paris

This has been debated before on the forum: there would apparently be bad blood between Ronnie and Pep following a clasico where Ronaldo went to take a throw in and Guardiola threw the ball away from him, after which Ronaldo shoved Guardiola. But to be fair, the clip of Pep "snubbing" Ronaldo at the awards is less than conclusive, he barely touches his shoulder and just moves on. I think a big meal is being made out of nothing.

Can't believe they're still milking that cow, isn't that a week old now?

steeeb

If he ends up at City he'll end up cracking up at some point.

Jaybezia

To be fair, as great as he is, I think if he took City now, it would put his standing lower after, purely because City is an accident with too much money, too much expected with a bunch of idiots as player/staff and he's not silly, I think Tottenahm may interest him or even Arsenal/ Chelsea

amolbhatia100

I don't see why too much money is a hinderence. It only makes it easier for him/them to dominate this league. It's the "easiest" of the top jobs I reckon.

Jaybezia

No, not at all, how is that easy? Even with money you know Champs League/ PL title is not guaranteed, yet the owner expects it? Managing personalities who think they are bigger than the club? I don't think so, I don't think firstly there is an 'easy' job, but for me the easiest in the prem would be QPR, nothing expected, loads of money, hero if you win a game, loose 10 and your the same as the previous manager...

ninety

Blanking Ronaldo does seems a bit petty. You definitely need thick skin to be a successful manager, but he seemed to cope okay at Barcelona. I think he left more because he was burnt out which seems a sensible decision to me. Who knows maybe he couldn't handle the pressure?

amolbhatia100

Yeah I edited my post as I meant it's the most comfortable out of the big jobs in England. Liverpool is very very difficult, at Arsenal you have a great set up but not enough funds to challenge, at Chelsea you have the funds but a difficult owner, at United you have to follow Fergie's footsteps and not have funds to match Chelsea and City (I reckon). City has the expectations but also has more funds than required to allow a good manager to meet the high expectations.

LawCharltonBest

It actually annoys me that people think he will go to City or Chelsea. I'm positive he wants the United job.

amolbhatia100

Know him pesonally?

Zen86

If he is going to be heading to Bayern, I think it's very likely it would lead to the United job as, presumably, Fergie will have retired by the time he's finished there. If he was interested in City or Chelsea he could quite easily walk into either position in the summer, getting some more experience at Bayern would put him in good stead for us.

Whether I think he's the right manager for us is another matter.

LawCharltonBest

No. Have spoken to him once though. Said I was a United fan, he said "nice club"

I'm just sure he wouldn't go to City or Chelsea. I'm really confident he wouldn't. Obviously I don't know him personally, but he seems the type who likes history and prestige in a club. Didn't he also nearly sign for United once as a player?

Jaybezia

Yes I agree with all of that

Zen86

Pep comes across as a very passionate and loyal bloke, which is something which generally runs through the Barcelona team (these days at least). How he'd take to working with a bunch of stroppy mercenaries ala Chelsea and City is anyone's guess.

amolbhatia100

I think Bayern and Chelsea are best set up to play his kind of football IMO.

Hernandez - BFA

Quoted.

I admire your confidence.

If he manages a team outside of England next year, then I can actually see him manage us once Fergie goes. It all depends on his next move.

Blackwidow

The interview he made regarding the EPL is for the 150th FA anniversary - and he emphasizes that he is 41 and wants to somewhen work in the EPL. It does not mean his next step.

I see him more as a van Gaal type of coach - opposed to the success comes first and is most important Mourinho type - who wants to build up something and to implement a system. He is more the type for which team comes first and in which there is no star cult (Messi somehow ain't no star apart from his role on the field).

That is why I see him in Munich next. He can build up on a good base that already has some system implemented since van Gaals spell in Munich - so he can get short time success, too - what might be important as it just is his first step after Barcelona.

And everything else somehow matches - nice city with a lot of culture, the Bundesliga is on the rise, lots of talents, some players he named as wish players before...

The language might be a challenge for him - but that is not a really big hurdle as he still has months to go.

RedRover

He did for a while - when it was all going well. But once Real came back stronger, start to actually compete and a few cracks show in the Barca veneer - low and behold he's off for a year off followed by a "new challenge".

The pressure at Barca for me seems not to be too bad - one major paper (the "Barca" press) loves you while the other ("Real" press) is clearly biased in any event. He had a great side and was loved by the fans and heirarchy.

Makes me wonder how he'll cope at another club - at United he'd be expected to do well and have the stress of suceeding the most succesful manager in the game. At City and Chelsea huge expectations to be instantly succesful and bring a style of play - and all while dealing with the British press. Infinately more pressure there for me.

Will be fascinating to see where he goes and what he does next.

Bayern seem a good fit - not least because they're already very succesful, have a very strong side and sensible owners.

ninety

I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Bayern. I just can't see him going to Chelsea, regardless of how much they offer him. Dealing with Abramovich's ridiculous expectations is a headache he could do without. Bayern has a much better step-up by the looks of things. Still wouldn't rule out City either, cause at the end of the day money talks. Their offer in monetary terms would surely be greater than Bayern's but he doesn't seem to be a money grabber.

Sparky_Hughes

So do I but it doesnt mean Ill get it!

Jimy_Hills_Chin

I might start a thread titled 'Did Pep underachieve at Barca?'

The new guy is pissing it after all.

Brightonian

If he moves to City, fair enough. If he utters the word 'project', he'll plummet in my estimation.

Balu

The pressure at Bayern is immense. Hitzfeld was exhausted after a few years, rarely a manager stays more than 2 years. Van Gaal said the pressure through the media is crazier than anything he experienced before. I wouldn't call Rummenigge and Hoeneß sensible, if you're talking about them when refering to the owners. They are smart business men but they like to interfere if the team isn't performing very well which lead to complications in the past. No one really knows how Sammer - the new sport director - will get along with a character like Guardiola. Sammer is relatively new to the club and wants to change a lot of things regarding the club's philosophy. I can see it working very well, Sammer loves Guardiola's work at Barca. But you'll have two strong characters, former worldclass players, and both will want to leave a mark at the club. He'll probably have way more freedom to do his thing at City and Chelsea. Dortmund is a very strong team and will give Bayern a fight for the title next season. With two CL finals the last 3 years everybody will expect Guardiola to win the champions league while at City they might be happy to get to the knock out stages. So it's not an easy task to be successful with Bayern or at least meet the expectations.

Bayern might be the best fit for now, especially if he really wants to manage United at some point in the future. But the pressure on him will be immense, maybe only comparable to Real or United in the football world.

kouroux

He does speak English doesn't he ?

Varun_Utd

Moved with his entire family to the US to learn.

JayWalker

He'll go to City definitely. Mourinho, back to Chelsea.

Fergie, Guardiola, Mourinho, Wenger and AVB, all at the same time should be fun.

EDIT: Rodgers as a bait for the above.

Adzzz

I do respect Guardiola, but I think barca and him are anomalous. Plus, whomsoever are next manager may be, I want us to attempt someone for the long-term and if Pep got stressed/burned out through winning everything all the time and quitting - I'm not sure that means he's right for our club.

On the flipside, if he came here and won lots in three years then buggered off - well. First world problem.

Gambit

He'll go wherever the money dictates.

Blackwidow

Pep Guardiola al Bayern Monaco, storia di un amore pronto per diventare matrimonio. L’accordo tra l’allenatore catalano e il club bavarese è stato raggiunto nei giorni scorsi con un blitz a New York, ve lo abbiamo raccontato e la notizia ha fatto il giro del mondo. Adesso, in casa Bayern tra i dirigenti è in corso una riunione operativa per formalizzare l’intesa con Guardiola: l’accordo passa quindi alla fase burocratica, dopo il via libera arrivato nelle ultime discussioni tra le parti. Un altro step verso un destino già scritto. Guardiola allenerà il Bayern Monaco dal prossimo anno, sono le ore decisive per definire tutto, dopo il Barça il futuro di Pep parlerà tedesco.

Pep Guardiola at Bayern Monaco, the story of a love that is ready to become a marriage. The agreement between the Catalan coach and the Bavarian club has been reached in recent days with a blitz in New York, I have told and the news has traveled around the world. Now, at home among the leaders Bayern is currently a working meeting to formalize the agreement with Guardiola: The agreement then goes to the bureaucratic phase, after the green light came in the latest discussions between the parties. Another step towards a destiny already written. Guardiola will coach the Bayern Monaco next year, the hours are crucial to define everything, after Barça's future Pep speak German.

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calc...zare-laccordo/


See it like this - Manchester or London did not name shopping-centres after him, but Munich did...


(The PEP in Munich Neu-Perlach)

Sport-Bild just twittered that Jupp Heynckes is taking part in that meeting right now, too.

Amar__

Why would Bayern want him, when they already have good manager in Heynckes?

FCBarca

Bayern option is certainly picking up steam through more & more credible sources (Balague, aka ratface, excluded, of course). This would obviously elevate Bayern despite them already being a power in Europe.

Would be curious to see what he could do with Shaqiri but he'd have a wealth of talent to work with. Wonder if Javi would remain at CB as well.

Varun_Utd

Being said he's about to retire. Bayern have rubbished reports though and have said they have no intention of gettin gurdiola.

kietotheworld

Heynckes is 67 and his contract expires in the summer.

utdalltheway

that's not what I heard. supposedly Bayern Monaco (where did that come from?) issued a press release from the PR guy saying it's rubbish that a deal with Pep has been made. nowhere (afaik) did they say they're not interested in him.

if the story about him buying at Lake Como thing is true then it's Bayern or Milan for Pep.
I'd prefer him at BM and not go to Chelsea, City, and PSG - if for nothing else just show those guys that money isn't everything.

OGkush

ok, before saying anything I'd like to point out that while I like Pep he's not exactly my 1st choice, however I find myself laughing at some of the reasons as to why we shouldn't give him the job at United.

Do you honestly think anyone, ANYONE is going to last as long as SAF has at one club and be so successfull?
As much as I'd like another 26 years of SAF, or someone somehow on his level, it's never going to happen.
SAF is an exception, not "the rule".
Usualy managers leave after a year or a couple of years depending on how successfull they were and how the owners responded, we won't see a manager stay at a club for 10 years let alone 26.

If either Pep or Mourinho come to United and win things here I'll be happy, because unlike most people I don't expect us or any other club to ever get another SAF again, and once he's gone we're going to go through managers like most other top teams (Chelsea excluded).
So, accepting the fact that no manager will stay for such a long period of time, if either of them (or whoever comes) manages to win titles with United and preferably adds a European title or two than I'd be more than happy

Anduin

A few minutes ago Bild put this online... Guardiola replacing Heynckes at Bayern...

Contract until 2016, takes over at the start of next season. They are usually a reliable source when it comes to Bayern.

Blackwidow

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/ba...8654.bild.html

BILD reports that Guardiola will be coach next year at Bayern - with a contract until 2016.

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The SZ (South German newspaper - a more serious paper) reports that the presentation will be Friday.

SteveJ

Bild reports...oh bollocks.

utdalltheway

interesting.

Anduin

They are well-sourced within Bayern. But KICKER is reporting it too now...

Blackwidow

All papers are...