Pick your England squad for the 2012 Euros

Plan M · 17th April 2012, 17:47

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Originally Posted by lysglimt

I cant understand why so many pick Cleverley - I mean the guy is struggling to get into our match-squad - and he is not matchfit.

I like the guy as much as the next guy - but in his current form, what can he contribute with ?

And John Ruddy is a far better goalkeeping option than David Stockdale

Agreed, we're overrating Clev just a wee bit of late.

rcoobc · 17th April 2012, 17:49

You definitely need to take both Walker and Richards, I'd rather see a central defence of Cahill, Lescott or Jagielka than the ilk of Ferdinand or Terry. And Baines ahead of Cole at Left Back.

You might say that that defence will be ripped apart by the Germans, Dutch or Spanish, which is likely true but the harmony of the squad would be better, and it's players who give you something different and give everything for the team

FortBoyard · 17th April 2012, 17:57

Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka just ain't up to the standard needed.

In a few years Jones, Smalling etc can take that mantle but what is wrong with playing 30 something defenders.

Although as I typed I just remembered the bloody race issue.

In which case I'd rather Terry-King or Ferdinand-King over anyone else. You have to pick the best players available.

Broyphs · 17th April 2012, 18:00

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

You definitely need to take both Walker and Richards, I'd rather see a central defence of Cahill, Lescott or Jagielka than the ilk of Ferdinand or Terry. And Baines ahead of Cole at Left Back.

You might say that that defence will be ripped apart by the Germans, Dutch or Spanish, which is likely true but the harmony of the squad would be better, and it's players who give you something different and give everything for the team

Very unfair on Rio who's well established as probably the most popular member of the squad. A lot of the players have spoken about the unifying effect his presence has, particularly between the players from the London clubs and the others. If he doesn't go it might be down to footballing reasons, but if he isn't picked due to the issue with Terry then I'd say it'd be a very sad way to close out what was a fantastic international career.

davisjw · 17th April 2012, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by FortBoyard

Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka just ain't up to the standard needed.

In a few years Jones, Smalling etc can take that mantle but what is wrong with playing 30 something defenders.

Although as I typed I just remembered the bloody race issue.

In which case I'd rather Terry-King or Ferdinand-King over anyone else. You have to pick the best players available.

I hope I misunderstood the joke. King has been God awful. Ferdinand has been fine and will start based on his leadership. The only way Terry is starting is if the FA bring in some oldie. Might as well toss Carragher in there just in case someone gets injured.

FortBoyard · 17th April 2012, 18:02

King is a superior player to Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka and I'll take that to the grave.

adexkola · 17th April 2012, 18:04

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

You definitely need to take both Walker and Richards, I'd rather see a central defence of Cahill, Lescott or Jagielka than the ilk of Ferdinand or Terry. And Baines ahead of Cole at Left Back.

You might say that that defence will be ripped apart by the Germans, Dutch or Spanish, which is likely true but the harmony of the squad would be better, and it's players who give you something different and give everything for the team

What's the benefit of having a happy squad if they get knocked out the first round? Experience is vital in international matches, and I don't see the likes of Cahill/Lescott/Jag dealing with situations in a satisfactory manner.

Personal disagreements need to be put aside, and they just need to concentrate on playing football.

lysglimt · 17th April 2012, 18:05

Is it just me or will this on paper be the weakest England-squad we have seen going into a championship ? All previous championships I have looked at the first 11 and thought - that is pretty decent. This time I am thinking - wannabe and has-beens - nowhere near good enough. And I hope to God I am wrong!

sammsky1 · 17th April 2012, 18:12

Given all the mess, can't see Terry being picked under any circumstances.

On that logic, Rio has to go. He gets into the squad on merit anyway as he has shown no signs whatsoever of his recurring injury problems.

Agree to a degree about Cleverley, but given Wilshire is out, makes sense to allow a young inexperienced player in his place.

rcoobc · 17th April 2012, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Very unfair on Rio who's well established as probably the most popular member of the squad. A lot of the players have spoken about the unifying effect his presence has, particularly between the players from the London clubs and the others. If he doesn't go it might be down to footballing reasons, but if he isn't picked due to the issue with Terry then I'd say it'd be a very sad way to close out what was a fantastic international career.

I'd actually take him, but not start him. He is 33, the likelihood is he won't be around for the next World Cup. The other three I mentioned are all in their mid 20's, peaking in terms of their ability and sorely overlooked time and time again by England.

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Originally Posted by adexkola

What's the benefit of having a happy squad if they get knocked out the first round? Experience is vital in international matches, and I don't see the likes of Cahill/Lescott/Jag dealing with situations in a satisfactory manner.

Personal disagreements need to be put aside, and they just need to concentrate on playing football.

Well as we tried that two years ago and as England couldn't beat Algeria I'd try things differently this time. Experience mean's sod all when you play your best team, do shite, and then get knocked out against the Germans. Two of those players have already been in the team that beat Spain, or should I say "restricted" Spain as they are defenders.

Baines has been the best left back over this season, possibly, Terry is a wanker, Ferdinand is injury prone, Walker and Richards have been the best right backs.

Steven Seagull · 17th April 2012, 18:43

I think King has been a brilliant defender when fit, but he has looked so far off the pace recently he can't possibly be considered. Terry is Cancer.

Assuming we're playing 4231.

Milner doesn't make the cut because I don't know his best position, and if it's CM he's not good enough with the ball. I'd rather take Britton and there's always one player everyone complains about so he can lump it this time. It's tragic that without Wilshere we haven't got much else to choose from under age 30. Barry can fuck off, I'd rather take Jonjo Shelvey.

Gerrard has got steadily worse since he returned, so I'm forced to pick an improved Lampard. Johnson is a bit younger than Lennon, but I'm not so sure who's the least shit anymore. Walcott as far forward as possible, so it's 3 strikers and Rooney.

Hart, ?, ?

Walker, Richards, Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka, Ferdinand, Cole, Baines

Scholes, Britton Parker, Carrick,

Johnson Chamberlain, Rooney, Lampard, Young,

Sturridge, Walcott, Welbeck,

That was really hard

We're fucked.

manutddjw · 17th April 2012, 18:54

If I were English, my main concern would be if Andy Carroll continues scoring until the end of the season. Some idiot might overlook the fact that he is shit and pick him for the Euro's.

Lawman · 17th April 2012, 21:24

Hart, Foster, Robinson/Green

Walker, Richards, Smalling, Cahill, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Baines

Scholes, Gerrard, Parker, Carrick, Jones

Johnson, Chamberlain, Rooney, Young,

Sturridge, Walcott, Welbeck,

Zen · 17th April 2012, 22:04

Team for game 1.

Hart
Walker-Rio-Smalling-Cole
Scholes-Carrick
Walcott-Gerrard-Young
Welbeck

Foster, Green, Jones, Terry, Cahill, Baines, Parker, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sturridge, Defoe, Rooney

Thats 22.

Richards, King, Barry, Cleverley, Lennon, Adam Johnson, Carroll, Crouch prolly make up the 30 and try and impress for the last spot for the final team.

Richards prolly not in because Walkers been better mostly, and in Smalling and further back Jones, you have 2 back RB's for a desperate situation. And I wouldn't want Rio and Terry playing, as solid as they have been at times, its not the right pair now, go with either team pair of Cahill-Terry(more likely) or Rio-Smalling/Jones. Gerrard like for like for Rooney and rest just makes sense.

Sean_RedDevil · 19th April 2012, 07:49

Why can we never go in a tournament without problems

1) We're losing our coach four months before the start of the tournament.
2) 6 weeks before the start of the tournament.........we don't have a replacement for Capello.
3) Terry case
4) Rooney banned for the first two games.
5) Injury problems (Wilshere, Bent, Rodwell)

rcoobc · 19th April 2012, 07:51

We should just get 5 English-Supporting members of the Caf to coach the team through the tournament. Has anyone suggested that to the FA?

Carl · 19th April 2012, 07:54

Wouldn't say Bent and Rodwell are much of a problem....

Also, I think Sinclair and/or Jarvis deserve to go.

rcoobc · 19th April 2012, 07:57

I love Sinclair, but it would be harsh dropping another player. Although having said that it seems unlikely that Jones or Cleverley will go now, and Wilshere is meant to be out. Still those 3 aren't exactly in competition for Sinclair's place.

Carl · 19th April 2012, 08:04

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

I love Sinclair, but it would be harsh dropping another player. Although having said that it seems unlikely that Jones or Cleverley will go now, and Wilshere is meant to be out. Still those 3 aren't exactly in competition for Sinclair's place.

What "other player" are you referring too? The only other left wing options are Young and Downing and I'd take Sinclair and Jarvis over Downing.

rcoobc · 19th April 2012, 08:09

Johnson and Young

Carl · 19th April 2012, 08:20

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

Johnson and Young

The same Johnson who doesn't play on the left wing? I know he's left footed but he only gets games from time to time and when he does it's on the right.

Not sure how he should get a place ahead of Sinclair and Jarvis who have both had good seasons on the left.

Sinclair in particular as he'd fit into the 4231/433 that England will surely (hopefully) play in the Summer.

rcoobc · 19th April 2012, 08:28

Well to add to Young and Johnson there would be Lennon and Walcott. I'm all up for taking Sinclair, but he hasn't had a senior England cap yet and Jarvis has only had one.

We will probably end up with Milner on the left sadly.

Carl · 19th April 2012, 08:32

Well hopefully they will at least be called up to the pre-tournament friendlies so we can have a look at them.

We should be taking in form players to the tournament.

Sean_RedDevil · 19th April 2012, 11:35

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Originally Posted by cw1984

Wouldn't say Bent and Rodwell are much of a problem....

Wilshere is a massive miss.

Bent would be a good option for the first two games.

Rodwell and Baines (New injury blow) would be good options for the squad.

That's now 4 players (Baines is at least very doubtful)...........i don't see another nations with injury problems......yes Villa for Spain is but that is it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

Wouldn't say Bent and Rodwell are much of a problem....

Also, I think Sinclair and/or Jarvis deserve to go.

I don't think Jarvis is good enough for England.

Sinclair has a little chance.

Young, A.Johnson and Walcott should be safe.

Another place is maybe open for Downing, Lennon, Oxlade-Chamberlain and maybe Sinclair.

antihenry · 19th April 2012, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by davisjw

I hope I misunderstood the joke. King has been God awful. Ferdinand has been fine and will start based on his leadership. The only way Terry is starting is if the FA bring in some oldie. Might as well toss Carragher in there just in case someone gets injured.

Not for the solid part of the season he hasn't.

Carl · 19th April 2012, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

Wilshere is a massive miss.

Bent would be a good option for the first two games.

Rodwell and Baines (New injury blow) would be good options for the squad.

That's now 4 players (Baines is at least very doubtful)...........i don't see another nations with injury problems......yes Villa for Spain is but that is it.

I don't think Jarvis is good enough for England.

Sinclair has a little chance.

Young, A.Johnson and Walcott should be safe.

Another place is maybe open for Downing, Lennon, Oxlade-Chamberlain and maybe Sinclair.

Yeh Wilshere is a big miss of course. That's our only blow in terms of injuries though.

As for Jarvis. I think he's certainly good enough if England adopt a 442/4411 rather than the 433 I hope they will use. I'd probably have Young ahead of him but he'd be my second choice in that position. He's extremely under rated in my opinion and would give us some natural width on that side.

Sean_RedDevil · 21st April 2012, 02:56

Baines not out for season

Good news!!

rcoobc · 21st April 2012, 03:03

woo

jakec · 21st April 2012, 15:31

Richards will go, no doubt about that.

Carl · 23rd April 2012, 21:24

This was the topic on TalkSport earlier with it being St George's day. Given current form etc I think my team would be:

Hart
Walker Terry Cahill Cole
Carrick Parker
Johnson Rooney Young
Welbeck

Replacing Rooney with either Gerrard or Lampard for the games he's suspended in and replacing Parker for Scholes if there is a God...

Not sure about right wing either....

bosnian_red · 23rd April 2012, 21:31

Johnson is overrated, as most english players are. Saying that I'm not sure who else would go there, maybe Sturridge but he's off form, or Walcott. Again off form though. Rio ahead of Terry though easily. I'd have Smalling and Rio as the center backs, carrick and scholes in midfield and Rooney and Welbeck up top

Not biased at all...

Hart
Richards Rio Smalling Cole
Walcott Carrick Scholes Young
Rooney Welbeck

Gerrard for Rooney in the games he is suspended for and make it a midfield three. Maybe it would be too attacking but I think it would do good, considering the core of the team are our players and used to each other.

Carl · 23rd April 2012, 21:59

^ Not sure Rio will cope with the amount of games played in such a short space of time.

May as well go with Cahill and Terry given they're building a partnership at Chelsea.

bosnian_red · 23rd April 2012, 22:09

I'd bring him anyways, not play him every game but maybe like once in the group stages, and then start him in the knockouts. He is too good to be left out I feel.

Cutch · 23rd April 2012, 22:16

Smalling certainly won't be starting. Not even sure if he'll make the squad given how little football he's played in the last 3 months.

roseguy64 · 24th April 2012, 02:03

Hart, 2 GKs

Richards, Walker/Johnson, Cole, Baines, Lescott, Ferdinand, Smalling, Terry/Jagielka/Jones

Carrick, Parker, Barry, Lampard, Milner

Walcott, Young, Johnson, Sturridge, Welbeck, Rooney, Defoe/Crouch

Pretty much a lottery for those positions where I have options. Could consider Gerrard but he's been off form and Lampard's added some decent play recently in addition to his ability to get goals so he would get the nod. Milner's versatile and can't think of any CM who's made a strong case to be in over him.

Pexbo · 24th April 2012, 08:19

Surprised so many are picking Terry. It's pretty clear by the way they wouldn't even step down to Capello over his inclusion that he will never play for England again.

Trigg · 24th April 2012, 09:32

With all thats gone with Terry I think taking wouldn't have a negative impact. I just don't think he's a good person to have in the camp this time round. He's been playing very well of late too but you've got to look at the bigger picture, and for that I wouldn't take him.

Solius · 24th April 2012, 09:34

It's a real shame about Wilshere's injury hit season. I thought he'd be very good for us at the Euros.

antihenry · 24th April 2012, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pexbo

Surprised so many are picking Terry. It's pretty clear by the way they wouldn't even step down to Capello over his inclusion that he will never play for England again.

I'm quite confident that barring an injury, Terry is a lock to be a part of the England squad.

The Capello/FA falling out was over the captaincy, not Terry's inclusion in the national team.

Randall Flagg · 24th April 2012, 09:53

Terry will defo go IMO.

He is still probably your most important defender.

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17th April 2012, 17:49	#162 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	You definitely need to take both Walker and Richards, I'd rather see a central defence of Cahill, Lescott or Jagielka than the ilk of Ferdinand or Terry. And Baines ahead of Cole at Left Back. You might say that that defence will be ripped apart by the Germans, Dutch or Spanish, which is likely true but the harmony of the squad would be better, and it's players who give you something different and give everything for the team

17th April 2012, 17:57	#163 (permalink)
FortBoyard First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Assuming that all things are equal, who'd want to be men of the people. When there's people like YOU. Posts: 5,611	Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka just ain't up to the standard needed. In a few years Jones, Smalling etc can take that mantle but what is wrong with playing 30 something defenders. Although as I typed I just remembered the bloody race issue. In which case I'd rather Terry-King or Ferdinand-King over anyone else. You have to pick the best players available.

17th April 2012, 18:02	#166 (permalink)
FortBoyard First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Assuming that all things are equal, who'd want to be men of the people. When there's people like YOU. Posts: 5,611	King is a superior player to Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka and I'll take that to the grave.

17th April 2012, 18:05	#168 (permalink)
lysglimt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,588	Is it just me or will this on paper be the weakest England-squad we have seen going into a championship ? All previous championships I have looked at the first 11 and thought - that is pretty decent. This time I am thinking - wannabe and has-beens - nowhere near good enough. And I hope to God I am wrong!

17th April 2012, 18:12	#169 (permalink)
sammsky1 First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Behind my  Posts: 12,666	Given all the mess, can't see Terry being picked under any circumstances. On that logic, Rio has to go. He gets into the squad on merit anyway as he has shown no signs whatsoever of his recurring injury problems. Agree to a degree about Cleverley, but given Wilshire is out, makes sense to allow a young inexperienced player in his place.

17th April 2012, 18:43	#171 (permalink)
Steven Seagull Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: He's brought down by Peruzzi, Cole will finish it off, full speed ahead Barcelona! Posts: 3,507	I think King has been a brilliant defender when fit, but he has looked so far off the pace recently he can't possibly be considered. Terry is Cancer. Assuming we're playing 4231. Milner doesn't make the cut because I don't know his best position, and if it's CM he's not good enough with the ball. I'd rather take Britton and there's always one player everyone complains about so he can lump it this time. It's tragic that without Wilshere we haven't got much else to choose from under age 30. Barry can fuck off, I'd rather take Jonjo Shelvey. Gerrard has got steadily worse since he returned, so I'm forced to pick an improved Lampard. Johnson is a bit younger than Lennon, but I'm not so sure who's the least shit anymore. Walcott as far forward as possible, so it's 3 strikers and Rooney. Hart, ?, ? Walker, Richards, Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka, Ferdinand, Cole, Baines Scholes, Britton Parker, Carrick, Johnson Chamberlain, Rooney, Lampard, Young, Sturridge, Walcott, Welbeck, That was really hard We're fucked.

17th April 2012, 18:54	#172 (permalink)
manutddjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,622	If I were English, my main concern would be if Andy Carroll continues scoring until the end of the season. Some idiot might overlook the fact that he is shit and pick him for the Euro's.

17th April 2012, 21:24	#173 (permalink)
Lawman Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,446	Hart, Foster, Robinson/Green Walker, Richards, Smalling, Cahill, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Baines Scholes, Gerrard, Parker, Carrick, Jones Johnson, Chamberlain, Rooney, Young, Sturridge, Walcott, Welbeck,

17th April 2012, 22:04	#174 (permalink)
Zen First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,282	Team for game 1. Hart Walker-Rio-Smalling-Cole Scholes-Carrick Walcott-Gerrard-Young Welbeck Foster, Green, Jones, Terry, Cahill, Baines, Parker, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sturridge, Defoe, Rooney Thats 22. Richards, King, Barry, Cleverley, Lennon, Adam Johnson, Carroll, Crouch prolly make up the 30 and try and impress for the last spot for the final team. Richards prolly not in because Walkers been better mostly, and in Smalling and further back Jones, you have 2 back RB's for a desperate situation. And I wouldn't want Rio and Terry playing, as solid as they have been at times, its not the right pair now, go with either team pair of Cahill-Terry(more likely) or Rio-Smalling/Jones. Gerrard like for like for Rooney and rest just makes sense.

19th April 2012, 07:49	#175 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	Why can we never go in a tournament without problems 1) We're losing our coach four months before the start of the tournament. 2) 6 weeks before the start of the tournament.........we don't have a replacement for Capello. 3) Terry case 4) Rooney banned for the first two games. 5) Injury problems (Wilshere, Bent, Rodwell)

19th April 2012, 07:51	#176 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	We should just get 5 English-Supporting members of the Caf to coach the team through the tournament. Has anyone suggested that to the FA?

19th April 2012, 07:54	#177 (permalink)
Carl Not Allowed A Hash Tag Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Formerly cw1984 Posts: 31,719	Wouldn't say Bent and Rodwell are much of a problem.... Also, I think Sinclair and/or Jarvis deserve to go.

19th April 2012, 07:57	#178 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	I love Sinclair, but it would be harsh dropping another player. Although having said that it seems unlikely that Jones or Cleverley will go now, and Wilshere is meant to be out. Still those 3 aren't exactly in competition for Sinclair's place.

19th April 2012, 08:09	#180 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	Johnson and Young

19th April 2012, 08:28	#182 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	Well to add to Young and Johnson there would be Lennon and Walcott. I'm all up for taking Sinclair, but he hasn't had a senior England cap yet and Jarvis has only had one. We will probably end up with Milner on the left sadly.

19th April 2012, 08:32	#183 (permalink)
Carl Not Allowed A Hash Tag Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Formerly cw1984 Posts: 31,719	Well hopefully they will at least be called up to the pre-tournament friendlies so we can have a look at them. We should be taking in form players to the tournament.

21st April 2012, 02:56	#187 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	Baines not out for season Good news!!

21st April 2012, 03:03	#188 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,033	woo

21st April 2012, 15:31	#189 (permalink)
jakec I'm a fecking politics student for Gods sake Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Follow me @_JakeCullen_ Posts: 21,010	Richards will go, no doubt about that.

23rd April 2012, 21:24	#190 (permalink)
Carl Not Allowed A Hash Tag Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Formerly cw1984 Posts: 31,719	This was the topic on TalkSport earlier with it being St George's day. Given current form etc I think my team would be: Hart Walker Terry Cahill Cole Carrick Parker Johnson Rooney Young Welbeck Replacing Rooney with either Gerrard or Lampard for the games he's suspended in and replacing Parker for Scholes if there is a God... Not sure about right wing either....

23rd April 2012, 21:31	#191 (permalink)
bosnian_red First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 5,955	Johnson is overrated, as most english players are. Saying that I'm not sure who else would go there, maybe Sturridge but he's off form, or Walcott. Again off form though. Rio ahead of Terry though easily. I'd have Smalling and Rio as the center backs, carrick and scholes in midfield and Rooney and Welbeck up top Not biased at all... Hart Richards Rio Smalling Cole Walcott Carrick Scholes Young Rooney Welbeck Gerrard for Rooney in the games he is suspended for and make it a midfield three. Maybe it would be too attacking but I think it would do good, considering the core of the team are our players and used to each other.

23rd April 2012, 21:59	#192 (permalink)
Carl Not Allowed A Hash Tag Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Formerly cw1984 Posts: 31,719	^ Not sure Rio will cope with the amount of games played in such a short space of time. May as well go with Cahill and Terry given they're building a partnership at Chelsea.

23rd April 2012, 22:09	#193 (permalink)
bosnian_red First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 5,955	I'd bring him anyways, not play him every game but maybe like once in the group stages, and then start him in the knockouts. He is too good to be left out I feel.

23rd April 2012, 22:16	#194 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3102, Row 2, Seat 129 Posts: 7,389	Smalling certainly won't be starting. Not even sure if he'll make the squad given how little football he's played in the last 3 months.

24th April 2012, 02:03	#195 (permalink)
roseguy64 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Jamaica Posts: 1,799	Hart, 2 GKs Richards, Walker/Johnson, Cole, Baines, Lescott, Ferdinand, Smalling, Terry/Jagielka/Jones Carrick, Parker, Barry, Lampard, Milner Walcott, Young, Johnson, Sturridge, Welbeck, Rooney, Defoe/Crouch Pretty much a lottery for those positions where I have options. Could consider Gerrard but he's been off form and Lampard's added some decent play recently in addition to his ability to get goals so he would get the nod. Milner's versatile and can't think of any CM who's made a strong case to be in over him.

24th April 2012, 08:19	#196 (permalink)
Pexbo He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: T'Internet Posts: 11,837	Surprised so many are picking Terry. It's pretty clear by the way they wouldn't even step down to Capello over his inclusion that he will never play for England again.

24th April 2012, 09:32	#197 (permalink)
Trigg aka Trippin_Stoned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,167	With all thats gone with Terry I think taking wouldn't have a negative impact. I just don't think he's a good person to have in the camp this time round. He's been playing very well of late too but you've got to look at the bigger picture, and for that I wouldn't take him.

24th April 2012, 09:34	#198 (permalink)
Solius I am a mod, I swear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everybody will be dancing and be doing it right. Posts: 49,615	It's a real shame about Wilshere's injury hit season. I thought he'd be very good for us at the Euros.

24th April 2012, 09:53	#200 (permalink)
Randall Flagg shitline Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,892	Terry will defo go IMO. He is still probably your most important defender.