Raul out of Spain squad

Razwan000 · 17th May 2008, 12:08

Raul hasn't been selected for Spains Euro 2008 squad,

on the bbc news ticker

charlenefan · 17th May 2008, 12:08

Been common knowledge for a while now that he wouldn't be included

Coca Cola · 17th May 2008, 12:12

It´s a bid ridiculous, he had a few poor seasons but was always in the Spanish squad no matter what, most of the time starting even, then when he rediscovers his form and has an awesome season, the coach refuses to pick him.

Cupid Stunt · 17th May 2008, 12:26

Aragones believe's Raul's a bad influence on the rest of the squad..

He said this a long time ago and when it looked like Raul's days were over, credit to Raul for changing his style and becoming as effective as he used to be.

Giggsy PO · 17th May 2008, 12:27

Who´s there? Torres, Villa and...

kishankhagram · 17th May 2008, 12:29

casillas, xavi,alonso....?

Giggsy PO · 17th May 2008, 12:31

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Originally Posted by kishankhagram

casillas, xavi,alonso....?

Erm, I mean strikers at the expense of Raul.

uae · 17th May 2008, 12:54

Casillas (Real Madrid), Reina (Liverpool), Palop (Sevilla); Albiol (Valencia), Arbeloa (Liverpool), Capdevila (Villarreal), Juanito (Real Betis), Marchena (Valencia), Navarro (Real Mallorca), Puyol (Barcelona), Ramos (Real Madrid); Alonso (Liverpool), Cazorla (Villarreal), Fabregas (Arsenal), De la Red (Getafe), Iniesta (Barcelona), Senna (Villarreal), Silva (Valencia), Xavi (Barcelona); Guiza (Real Mallorca), Sergio Garcia (Real Zaragoza), Torres (Liverpool), Villa (Valencia).

KeyserSoze · 17th May 2008, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Cupid Stunt

Aragones believe's Raul's a bad influence on the rest of the squad.

Thats seems the only logical explanation. He has been named into the squad unconditionally when playing poorly. This has been his best season in a while.

Godfather · 17th May 2008, 12:59

Old'n'notlearnin

youngred · 17th May 2008, 13:20

I think personally that's ridiculous, he has actually been performing excellently and I always seem to have the impression he is a very good professional.

UnitedBoy · 17th May 2008, 13:22

bojan also deserves a spot even at his young age

KeyserSoze · 17th May 2008, 13:24

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Originally Posted by UnitedBoy

bojan also deserves a spot even at his young age

Bojan.

MelvinYeo · 17th May 2008, 18:08

Why are they announcing the squad so early?

Rahul · 17th May 2008, 18:11

Aragones (the racist twat) doesn't like him, End of story.

Raul has been brilliant for Madrid and one of the rare players thats isn't a cunt. He scored over 20+ goals and he got assists. What more could he do ?

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The Real Madrid captain is supported by a huge media campaign in his bid to win his place with la Furia Roja back and has said that he would do anything to be in Austria and Switzerland.

Aragonés has named a provisional squad of 31 players that required innoculations for the tournament and Raúl was not included, but he has now pleaded to be allowed to travel with the squad, even it means being the water boy.

"I would go to the European Championships even if it means carrying the water for the team," he said during Madrid's title celebrations.

Shame he won't get to go. Deserves alot better.

Count Duckula · 17th May 2008, 18:13

Liverpool have more players in the Spain squad than Barcelona

surf · 17th May 2008, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Liverpool have more players in the Spain squad than Barcelona

De La Red sounds like a good name for a Rafa summer signing.

Count Duckula · 17th May 2008, 18:19

And I've just realised Arsenal and Liverpool combined have the same number as Real Madrid and Barcelona combined

How is that even remotely possible?

KingEric7 · 17th May 2008, 18:24

This is a slightly strange omission to say the least.
I would not be surprised it wasn't a performance motivated decision. He's had a good season this year.

noodlehair · 17th May 2008, 18:35

Why are all international managers utter spastics?

TheGame · 17th May 2008, 20:06

How on earth is Arbeloa in the squad

surely they must have better right backs????

Name Changed · 17th May 2008, 20:06

He was never going to be picked. He wants to be the main man, that is it. He is behind Villa and Torres in the pecking order. Both have a fantastic record for Spain, especially Villa.

davisjw · 17th May 2008, 20:33

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Originally Posted by TheGame

How on earth is Arbeloa in the squad

surely they must have better right backs????

Sergio Ramos...

Shocker but then again Spain has always had a fantastic squad that has pretty much done nothing thanks to poor management. Raul is a leader and had a great season...

It'll be scary seeing Bojan and Torres if they continue developing- great future partnership perhaps. I think Bojan made the right decision to say he didn't want to go.

uae · 17th May 2008, 20:54

Midfield on the small side isn't it?

amolbhatia100 · 17th May 2008, 21:47

Hes been great this season from what iv seen.

Ekeke · 17th May 2008, 23:31

Joaquin, Guti, Raul, Vicente, Arteta, Del Horno, Reyes, Valeron

All miss out. Not all performed exceptionally well recently due to form and injuries - Arteta and Guti aside. Still, aside from Arteta, all of them featured heavily in the Spain squad a few years ago.

ch7 · 17th May 2008, 23:46

That Spain squad to me indicates its going to be the same old story for them in Euro 2008. They'll play some good football but will probably get found out defensively and be over powered in midfield by more experienced and hardened players like at the world cup when Thuram, Gallas, Makelele and Vieira snuffed out the attacking threat and quelled the influence Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas had on the game resulting in them getting knocked out.

Ekeke · 18th May 2008, 00:02

Also, I'd like to point out a very big reason why Raul has not been included in the squad.

The three strikers in the squad are :

Fernando Torres - I dont really need to explain this one. His finishing this season has been better than its ever been before and even before that he was the main man for Spain.

29 league starts netted 24 league goals.

David Villa - Every bit as talented as Torres, but more likely to set up a team mate. Villa can't really play in a 4-5-1 as Spain have been doing recently so he'll be on the bench. Or, with some luck, Spain might go back to 4-4-2 and play them both.

16 goals in 25 starts, in a season where his goals kept his club off the foot of the table.

Dani Guiza - Top scorer this season in La Liga ahead of Luis Fabiano.

Not a young player, not a spectacular player, but one who has been in great form - especially near the end of the season, and can be counted on to nick a goal.

35 starts and 25 goals in La Liga this season.

Raul himself has 18 goals in 35 league matches, which is a fine haul and meant he was top scorer for the team that won the league. But Spain should be more than fine without him.

In fact, if they go with a 4-4-2 and play Torres and Villa together, they just might run riot this year and Torres could end up top scorer at the tournament.

But chances are they'll stick to 4-5-1 with just Torres up front and their over-adundance of attacking midfielders in the middle.

Ballache · 18th May 2008, 02:39

he was good this season, Madrids top scorer (i think). class player deserves better than this.

Longlivekeano · 18th May 2008, 11:02

Probable Spain starting XI (if I were the manager)

---------------------Casillas-------------------------

--S.Ramos--------Puyol--------Albiol------Capdevilla--

---------------------Senna----------------------------

-------Iniesta----------Xavi--------------Fabregas-----

------------------Villa------Torres--------------------

Prediction: They'll probably cruise to the knockout sage playing fanstastic football, the media will wank over them, they will get knocked out in the quarter or semifinals after dominating the whole match but failing to score. Their defense is very weak & susceptible to opponents with good aerial ability and strength

kristinson · 18th May 2008, 11:09

No Bojan, well at least that counts one player out of the transfer muppetry saga!

Ekeke · 18th May 2008, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Longlivekeano

Probable Spain starting XI (if I were the manager)

---------------------Casillas-------------------------

--S.Ramos--------Puyol--------Albiol------Capdevilla--

---------------------Senna----------------------------

-------Iniesta----------Xavi--------------Fabregas-----

------------------Villa------Torres--------------------

Prediction: They'll probably cruise to the knockout sage playing fanstastic football, the media will wank over them, they will get knocked out in the quarter or semifinals after dominating the whole match but failing to score. Their defense is very weak & susceptible to opponents with good aerial ability and strength

Honestly, with Torres, Villa and Guiza they have no right to fail to score in any match. More so than any other time in the last few years, if they play to the strengths of their strikers - they should win the tournament.

You're right about the defence. Capdevila is no more than a decent player and Puyol is half the player he was a year ago. I like Raul Albiol, but he's no Rio Ferdinand. It's lucky they have Cassilas behind them.

17th May 2008, 12:08	#1 (permalink)
Razwan000 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Keighley Posts: 985	Raul out of Spain squad Raul hasn't been selected for Spains Euro 2008 squad, on the bbc news ticker

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charlenefan Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,783	Been common knowledge for a while now that he wouldn't be included

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Coca Cola One balled wonder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Evra´s Pussy. Posts: 2,414	It´s a bid ridiculous, he had a few poor seasons but was always in the Spanish squad no matter what, most of the time starting even, then when he rediscovers his form and has an awesome season, the coach refuses to pick him.

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Cupid Stunt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: "In that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a shit hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a shit hanging from a stick." Posts: 1,524	Aragones believe's Raul's a bad influence on the rest of the squad.. He said this a long time ago and when it looked like Raul's days were over, credit to Raul for changing his style and becoming as effective as he used to be.

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Giggsy PO First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shame on you Shane Vendrell. You little bastard! Posts: 9,379	Who´s there? Torres, Villa and...

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kishankhagram Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,416	casillas, xavi,alonso....?

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uae Desperately wants a tagline under his name Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dubai Posts: 3,159	Casillas (Real Madrid), Reina (Liverpool), Palop (Sevilla); Albiol (Valencia), Arbeloa (Liverpool), Capdevila (Villarreal), Juanito (Real Betis), Marchena (Valencia), Navarro (Real Mallorca), Puyol (Barcelona), Ramos (Real Madrid); Alonso (Liverpool), Cazorla (Villarreal), Fabregas (Arsenal), De la Red (Getafe), Iniesta (Barcelona), Senna (Villarreal), Silva (Valencia), Xavi (Barcelona); Guiza (Real Mallorca), Sergio Garcia (Real Zaragoza), Torres (Liverpool), Villa (Valencia).

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youngred Youth Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the poverty ridden streets of south london Posts: 254	I think personally that's ridiculous, he has actually been performing excellently and I always seem to have the impression he is a very good professional.

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UnitedBoy Redcafe Yahoo Pool champion 2007 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Wales!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 3,247	bojan also deserves a spot even at his young age

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MelvinYeo I'm only here for the post count Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,981	Why are they announcing the squad so early?

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Count Duckula First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the corner, losing my religion. Posts: 5,273	Liverpool have more players in the Spain squad than Barcelona

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Count Duckula First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the corner, losing my religion. Posts: 5,273	And I've just realised Arsenal and Liverpool combined have the same number as Real Madrid and Barcelona combined How is that even remotely possible?

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KingEric7 Winner of the Tabata bet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: My best moment? I have a lot of good moments but the one I prefer is when I kicked the hooligan. Posts: 12,009	This is a slightly strange omission to say the least. I would not be surprised it wasn't a performance motivated decision. He's had a good season this year.

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noodlehair Fired? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. Posts: 30,072	Why are all international managers utter spastics?

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TheGame Trainee Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 62	How on earth is Arbeloa in the squad surely they must have better right backs????

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 2,649	He was never going to be picked. He wants to be the main man, that is it. He is behind Villa and Torres in the pecking order. Both have a fantastic record for Spain, especially Villa.

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uae Desperately wants a tagline under his name Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dubai Posts: 3,159	Midfield on the small side isn't it?

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amolbhatia100 Has excellent taste in women Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 11,173	Hes been great this season from what iv seen.

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Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,201	Joaquin, Guti, Raul, Vicente, Arteta, Del Horno, Reyes, Valeron All miss out. Not all performed exceptionally well recently due to form and injuries - Arteta and Guti aside. Still, aside from Arteta, all of them featured heavily in the Spain squad a few years ago.

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ch7 Youth Team Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 409	That Spain squad to me indicates its going to be the same old story for them in Euro 2008. They'll play some good football but will probably get found out defensively and be over powered in midfield by more experienced and hardened players like at the world cup when Thuram, Gallas, Makelele and Vieira snuffed out the attacking threat and quelled the influence Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas had on the game resulting in them getting knocked out.

18th May 2008, 00:02	#28 (permalink)
Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,201	Also, I'd like to point out a very big reason why Raul has not been included in the squad. The three strikers in the squad are : Fernando Torres - I dont really need to explain this one. His finishing this season has been better than its ever been before and even before that he was the main man for Spain. 29 league starts netted 24 league goals. David Villa - Every bit as talented as Torres, but more likely to set up a team mate. Villa can't really play in a 4-5-1 as Spain have been doing recently so he'll be on the bench. Or, with some luck, Spain might go back to 4-4-2 and play them both. 16 goals in 25 starts, in a season where his goals kept his club off the foot of the table. Dani Guiza - Top scorer this season in La Liga ahead of Luis Fabiano. Not a young player, not a spectacular player, but one who has been in great form - especially near the end of the season, and can be counted on to nick a goal. 35 starts and 25 goals in La Liga this season. Raul himself has 18 goals in 35 league matches, which is a fine haul and meant he was top scorer for the team that won the league. But Spain should be more than fine without him. In fact, if they go with a 4-4-2 and play Torres and Villa together, they just might run riot this year and Torres could end up top scorer at the tournament. But chances are they'll stick to 4-5-1 with just Torres up front and their over-adundance of attacking midfielders in the middle.

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Ballache First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Botkyrka-Stockholms fattigaste Komun :( Posts: 5,977	he was good this season, Madrids top scorer (i think). class player deserves better than this.

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Longlivekeano Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,355	Probable Spain starting XI (if I were the manager) ---------------------Casillas------------------------- --S.Ramos--------Puyol--------Albiol------Capdevilla-- ---------------------Senna---------------------------- -------Iniesta----------Xavi--------------Fabregas----- ------------------Villa------Torres-------------------- Prediction: They'll probably cruise to the knockout sage playing fanstastic football, the media will wank over them, they will get knocked out in the quarter or semifinals after dominating the whole match but failing to score. Their defense is very weak & susceptible to opponents with good aerial ability and strength

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kristinson Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 790	No Bojan, well at least that counts one player out of the transfer muppetry saga!