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#4161 (permalink) |
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First Team Sub
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.
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I'm not buying what he's saying at all because if the club wanted him they would have given him a new deal and loaned him out. It would have got him away from Manchester and got him first-team minutes which he apparently craves so much. If you can't turn up for training I don't know how he expects to play for us in the First Team, maybe Rooney's punishment was related to this whole issue.
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka
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#4167 (permalink) |
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka
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Yup, he could very easily get involved in shit in London too...but at least this is a chance for him to get away from his old 'crew'. If he does the same shit and travels down the same path even after the change in scenery - no one will be feeling sorry for him, or bitching about Ravel not getting a 2nd chance.
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#4168 (permalink) |
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First Team Regular
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 22,739
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This is his chance to show that he was indeed just in a bad crowd, and he wasnt the bad apple and bad influence himself. If he gets into shit in London we'll know there are no excuses, he's just a waste of space
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#4169 (permalink) |
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Albeit, he's in London, it's basically giving him another chance to sort things out. Based on the above article, I think SAF was trying to do what's best for Ravel, hence why he said it was such an easy decision. They are definitely going to have to keep close watch over him and it further shows that SAF is looking out for Ravel by sending him to Big Sam.
My hope is that he can use this desire for first-team football to really buckle down and make something of his life. At the same time, mature along the way and realize what he needs to do to make it to the top. I feel that if he does come back to Manchester and he has matured, that he will acknowledge that he cannot hang around his 'boys' and that he has to cut them off if he wants to make it. From what I've seen, seems like that could potentially very difficult decision. I think part of that hinges on the environment he has in London. If it's similar to what he had in Manchester, then I dont think he will be returning to us. You can't be around people that are going to bring you down or put the wrong ideas in your head and expect to be the best you can be. Once again, it's really all up to him but hopefully West Ham can put him in an environment where he can mostly focus on his football and not get caught up in all the distractions. I'm not familiar with all the players at West Ham, but I hope he can find a mentor there. Especially one he confides in and that will lead him in the right direction. For someone at his age, having a good mentor can make a big difference. We have good role models in our squad as well as Fergie but it seems from Ravel's point of view, there was a bit of a divide and a bridge he seemed to think he couldn't cross. Nonetheless, with any new opportunity there's possibilities of things going wrong as well as right. Hopefully for Ravel, this will be the making of him. Either way, interesting times are ahead. |
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Poster originally known as Michel04
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: "Collar turned up, back straight, chest stuck out, he glided into the arena as if he owned the fucking place"
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Looks like after all, Fergie lost his patience as Ravel fucked up over and over. And thats the time when you need to leave, no matter what. Fergie has done the right thing
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He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!"
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: T'Internet
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Guarantee he won't be. They've already spoken about settling him in, getting him a training schedule and what not. No way will he play with a few days training under his belt, if he has even trained at all yet.
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 'Michael Owen was known as the Baby Faced Assassin, but Rooney was more like the Assassin Faced Baby'
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The two players that he most reminds me of are Stan Collymore and Keith Gillespie. Outstanding at a young age, clearly very talented but with inflated egos, lacking any kind of respect for authority or discipline, and without the correct work rate.
I still think it's a crying shame that he couldn't develop here, but I do agree he only has himself to blame. He will really, really regret his decision. |
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Has excellent taste in women
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: india
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Quite amazing for a 19 year to think he needs football and can't have some faith even in sir alex Ferguson. Fergie would only not play him based on him not quite being ready. That kind of impatient attitude and disrespect doesn't bode well for his future. If things like this are true then hell struggle at the highest level.
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tasted George Michael
Join Date: May 2011
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Its clearly more than just 'more football'.
If that was it, he wouldve been offered and wouldve signed a new deal and gone out on loan. He has moved to a championship club. Very few premier league sides thought it was worth the risk. Best guess, a combination of him being a dick and his agents demands. The club lost patience. Told him to look for another club. Accepted a decent offer. Told him to fuck off. |
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Baby Cameron loves X-Factor
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I only know of this guy through this site and have pick up pieces here and there.
Am I right in saying that Man United offered him terms which he didn't think were good enough though he has now gone to the Championship for a lowly figure of £300k? |
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#4187 (permalink) |
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First Team Sub
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.
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No we offered him terms to protect any possible compensation if he didn't move in the transfer window, we wanted rid of him. Great talent but his mind is elsewhere.
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 20-5....Because 20 is the new 18.
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Yo momma's so fat, she walked past the TV and i missed the first season of Lost
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So, it turns out that Morrison is a complete cunt!
United were never trying to sign him because of his attitude and his demands. He has basically been told to fuck off as he isn't getting a new contract and they weren't bothered about a buy-back clause for him! Not exactly breaking news but hearing this from a family member makes more sense than from some journo!! |
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