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Old 3rd February 2012, 13:31   #4161 (permalink)
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I'm not buying what he's saying at all because if the club wanted him they would have given him a new deal and loaned him out. It would have got him away from Manchester and got him first-team minutes which he apparently craves so much. If you can't turn up for training I don't know how he expects to play for us in the First Team, maybe Rooney's punishment was related to this whole issue.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 13:39   #4162 (permalink)
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hes going to end up living in a hotel with his mates isnt he?
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Old 3rd February 2012, 13:59   #4163 (permalink)
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Fuck him. I had high hopes of him but I couldn't give a flying one how his career pans out now.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 14:48   #4164 (permalink)
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The three players we signed on the final day of the chaotic and flawed January transfer window will make a big difference to us.

Ricardo Vaz Te, Nicky Maynard and Ravel Morrison will all give us a different dimension but it is Ravel who has provoked the most interest because of his past history.

Now that he is a West Ham player, we'll give him all the help he needs to settle in but just as important is the way he looks after himself.
People think managing a football club is about picking a team and deciding on tactics but it's much broader than that - it's about life.

The players are young men, still maturing at different levels and part of my and my staff's remit is helping them through whatever difficulties they might encounter as they progress.

We're all a product of our backgrounds and Ravel is no exception. Now, though - and with the great ability with which he has been blessed - he has a great chance to be a great footballer and fundamentally change his life
We will provide him with the tools to help him deal with his life off the field and to help him with his career on it.

The big thing, as Sir Alex Ferguson has highlighted, is that Ravel is out of Manchester. We need to look at that situation and be mindful that his background could attract a certain type of 'friend' down here. They may naturally try to seek him out so we have to try to protect him from that.

He has a long-standing girlfriend, which is a good thing because he is not going to be lonely.

We need to find him the right area in which to live and put him in a position where he clearly understands what he needs to do to develop his career.

All in all it's a complete life package and one which, we hope, will help him flourish as a player.

People will say that signing him is a gamble and to a certain extent it is because, if Ravel or any player doesn't want to succeed, then it doesn't matter how good a manager you are, it's not going to happen at the level which suits his ability.

Let's be honest, we wouldn't have been able to sign the perfect footballer with a perfect background from Manchester United. Under no circumstances would Sir Alex have let a player go with such talent, had he not had some problems.

One of the biggest things for Ravel would be for him to break into our first team. Then his whole life becomes closer to what he wants it to be.
First things first, though. We have to find out about his talent, we have to settle him into his home environment, his lifestyle and build him a programme for the time spent away from the pitch. Ravel only turned 19 yesterday, so he will need guidance.

The other players can help but that can only be while he's with them at training. What he does the rest of the time is not Kevin Nolan's responsibility or any other senior player unless they form friendships. Kevin, for example, looked after Andy Carroll, and to a lesser extent Joey Barton, at Newcastle United because they became friendly.

Ravel is here first and foremost because he wants to play first-team football and he has recognised that, at Manchester United, it might be too long a wait.

We will provide him with that opportunity like we do with everybody else but the chance has to be grasped irrespective of how young or old you are.
We as a club have always developed young players and that must always continue to be the case.

As big a challenge as it is for me to help this team back into the Premier League, I still have a responsibility to develop the young talent, either already here or from other academies where their skills have not been properly recognized.
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The more you look at this...the more this looks like Fergie not only doing right by United, but also right by Ravel - the Club and Fergie trying to make sure, he gets out of Manchester, so that he'll have a chance to break out of the cycle of destruction he seems to be stuck in.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 14:53   #4165 (permalink)
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Yeah, because there's fuck all for him to do in that small city of London.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 14:56   #4166 (permalink)
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Think it's about time folks just drew a line under this and let us and Morrison move on
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Old 3rd February 2012, 14:56   #4167 (permalink)
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Yeah, because there's fuck all for him to do in that small city of London.
Yup, he could very easily get involved in shit in London too...but at least this is a chance for him to get away from his old 'crew'. If he does the same shit and travels down the same path even after the change in scenery - no one will be feeling sorry for him, or bitching about Ravel not getting a 2nd chance.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 15:49   #4168 (permalink)
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This is his chance to show that he was indeed just in a bad crowd, and he wasnt the bad apple and bad influence himself. If he gets into shit in London we'll know there are no excuses, he's just a waste of space
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Old 3rd February 2012, 17:53   #4169 (permalink)
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Albeit, he's in London, it's basically giving him another chance to sort things out. Based on the above article, I think SAF was trying to do what's best for Ravel, hence why he said it was such an easy decision. They are definitely going to have to keep close watch over him and it further shows that SAF is looking out for Ravel by sending him to Big Sam.

My hope is that he can use this desire for first-team football to really buckle down and make something of his life. At the same time, mature along the way and realize what he needs to do to make it to the top. I feel that if he does come back to Manchester and he has matured, that he will acknowledge that he cannot hang around his 'boys' and that he has to cut them off if he wants to make it. From what I've seen, seems like that could potentially very difficult decision. I think part of that hinges on the environment he has in London. If it's similar to what he had in Manchester, then I dont think he will be returning to us. You can't be around people that are going to bring you down or put the wrong ideas in your head and expect to be the best you can be.

Once again, it's really all up to him but hopefully West Ham can put him in an environment where he can mostly focus on his football and not get caught up in all the distractions. I'm not familiar with all the players at West Ham, but I hope he can find a mentor there. Especially one he confides in and that will lead him in the right direction. For someone at his age, having a good mentor can make a big difference. We have good role models in our squad as well as Fergie but it seems from Ravel's point of view, there was a bit of a divide and a bridge he seemed to think he couldn't cross.

Nonetheless, with any new opportunity there's possibilities of things going wrong as well as right. Hopefully for Ravel, this will be the making of him. Either way, interesting times are ahead.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 18:01   #4170 (permalink)
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Seriously we don't need to discuss him any more.

Why should we care now anyways?Whatever reason he left.

Not like he has done lot for this club or something.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 18:49   #4171 (permalink)
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Seriously we don't need to discuss him any more.

Why should we care now anyways?Whatever reason he left.

Not like he has done lot for this club or something.
This thread's in the football forum, genius
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Old 3rd February 2012, 19:32   #4172 (permalink)
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Looks like after all, Fergie lost his patience as Ravel fucked up over and over. And thats the time when you need to leave, no matter what. Fergie has done the right thing
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Old 3rd February 2012, 20:58   #4173 (permalink)
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No way we would have not tried harder to keep him if we wanted him to stay.

I hope we insert sell on clauses for players so we get a cut if they are sold on for megabucks
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Old 3rd February 2012, 20:59   #4174 (permalink)
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West Ham are on sky tomorrow. Be interesting to see if Ravel is involved.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 21:06   #4175 (permalink)
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West Ham are on sky tomorrow. Be interesting to see if Ravel is involved.
Guarantee he won't be. They've already spoken about settling him in, getting him a training schedule and what not. No way will he play with a few days training under his belt, if he has even trained at all yet.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 22:19   #4176 (permalink)
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The two players that he most reminds me of are Stan Collymore and Keith Gillespie. Outstanding at a young age, clearly very talented but with inflated egos, lacking any kind of respect for authority or discipline, and without the correct work rate.

I still think it's a crying shame that he couldn't develop here, but I do agree he only has himself to blame. He will really, really regret his decision.
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Old 4th February 2012, 11:40   #4177 (permalink)
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Not in West Ham's squad today.
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:03   #4178 (permalink)
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Hopefully it'll be the case for years to come
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:32   #4179 (permalink)
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He says he needed to play first team football. Joke really the lad has only just turned 19 ffs.

She says the move is good for him.
Quite amazing for a 19 year to think he needs football and can't have some faith even in sir alex Ferguson. Fergie would only not play him based on him not quite being ready. That kind of impatient attitude and disrespect doesn't bode well for his future. If things like this are true then hell struggle at the highest level.
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:34   #4180 (permalink)
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We don't want a gangster in our squad, who would most likely bring bad influence to other young players here. We can't afford to let this happen, no matter how talent he is.
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:53   #4181 (permalink)
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Quite amazing for a 19 year to think he needs football and can't have some faith even in sir alex Ferguson. Fergie would only not play him based on him not quite being ready. That kind of impatient attitude and disrespect doesn't bode well for his future. If things like this are true then hell struggle at the highest level.
Would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for Ravel if Pogba, a similar talent at a similar age, starts to regularly appear for the first team now. Morrison let himself down by not putting his football first, if he had he may easily have made 10-15 first team appearances by this point.
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:57   #4182 (permalink)
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We don't want a gangster in our squad, who would most likely bring bad influence to other young players here. We can't afford to let this happen, no matter how talent he is.
He's already left.
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:59   #4183 (permalink)
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Its clearly more than just 'more football'.
If that was it, he wouldve been offered and wouldve signed a new deal and gone out on loan.
He has moved to a championship club. Very few premier league sides thought it was worth the risk.

Best guess, a combination of him being a dick and his agents demands.
The club lost patience. Told him to look for another club. Accepted a decent offer. Told him to fuck off.
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Old 4th February 2012, 13:01   #4184 (permalink)
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There is indeed a thin line between love and hate. I am amazed by the reaction of some United fans towards this boy now.
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Old 4th February 2012, 13:57   #4185 (permalink)
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There is indeed a thin line between love and hate. I am amazed by the reaction of some United fans towards this boy now.
Very true. They loved the gangster this time last year.
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:07   #4186 (permalink)
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I only know of this guy through this site and have pick up pieces here and there.

Am I right in saying that Man United offered him terms which he didn't think were good enough though he has now gone to the Championship for a lowly figure of £300k?
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:09   #4187 (permalink)
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I only know of this guy through this site and have pick up pieces here and there.

Am I right in saying that Man United offered him terms which he didn't think were good enough though he has now gone to the Championship for a lowly figure of £300k?
No we offered him terms to protect any possible compensation if he didn't move in the transfer window, we wanted rid of him. Great talent but his mind is elsewhere.
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:18   #4188 (permalink)
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For someone with supposed promise he seems to know how to throw it all away - if Allardyce cannot get him thinking straight then likely nobody will.
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:36   #4189 (permalink)
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:43   #4190 (permalink)
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
He appears to have gotten ahead of himself in his self-importance, clubs will put up with squad and first team players acting up to a certain point but I doubt any team will take it from unproven young players.
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Old 4th February 2012, 14:59   #4191 (permalink)
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
Not sure about that, as of the Benfica and Palace games at OT, he was on the cusp of getting a first team spot. Apparently though he went AWOL after the Palace game and didn't turn up to training for 5 days, apparently. If Ravel kept his head down then he would have stayed, simple as really. SAF was just protecting his investment with those comments I feel, he was very specific in referencing Ravel's agent and not Ravel and if he turned around and said he's a problem he wouldn't be able to sell Ravel as easily would he?
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
And complaining about how boring the annual awards ceremony dinner was....good to be rid.
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His Tweet whilst the reserves were playing indicating he was looking forward to Summer was him indirectly saying he couldn't wait to move. I also think Ravel was telling the truth when he claimed he was not offered a contract, contrary to what SAF said during one his press conferences. Basically United had enough of his behaviour.
am not sure about that, as i just saw a tweet two days back from him, saying he is really looking forward to june. his explanation about going on holiday seems plausible
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Old 7th February 2012, 20:07   #4195 (permalink)
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Uh huh.

Former Manchester United youngster Ravel Morrison in homophobic Twitter threat - Goal.com
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Old 7th February 2012, 20:10   #4196 (permalink)
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Why former Manchester United player rather than current West Ham player. Fucking media.
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Old 7th February 2012, 20:11   #4197 (permalink)
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If his agent is really looking out for his interests the first fucking thing he should do is delete his twitter.
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Old 7th February 2012, 20:13   #4198 (permalink)
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He's using "faggot" in the Louis CK way...

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Old 7th February 2012, 20:15   #4199 (permalink)
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Homophobia and threats of violence. He's started the new chapter of his career much like he finished the last one. Oh, Ravel...
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Old 7th February 2012, 20:25   #4200 (permalink)
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So, it turns out that Morrison is a complete cunt!

United were never trying to sign him because of his attitude and his demands. He has basically been told to fuck off as he isn't getting a new contract and they weren't bothered about a buy-back clause for him!

Not exactly breaking news but hearing this from a family member makes more sense than from some journo!!
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