RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2009/10)

Crerand Legend · 4th August 2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by green demon

I think it's so sweet the faith and love they have for Benitez. It's blind faith really as yet he has not really done enything to warrant this. It reminds me of the faith they had in Houllier

right up to shortly before he was sacked. Maybe they will win the championship this year, after all one year will be their year so maybe it's this one. It will be despite Benitez rather than because of him if they do.

Looking and listening to Rafa in the last 6 months or so I am increasingly of the opinon that the man is losing it and is in the need of going to see a good shrink.

OneUnited24 · 4th August 2009, 23:32

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Originally Posted by green demon

I think it's so sweet the faith and love they have for Benitez. It's blind faith really as yet he has not really done enything to warrant this. It reminds me of the faith they had in Houllier

right up to shortly before he was sacked. Maybe they will win the championship this year, after all one year will be their year so maybe it's this one. It will be despite Benitez rather than because of him if they do.

I suppose at the end of the day the only man you can trust at a club is the manager, players come and go, the board will bicker about non-footballing matters but the manager is the one constant you have to believe is looking out for your clubs best interests. I suppose its easy to mock Liverpool fans for having so much faith in their manager but at the end of the day hes brought them a UCL and that is enough for them.

I mean when SAF leaves it will be hard to find a good manager and if we get one that wins us the UCL in his first season we would all have instant faith in him because we would see the potential he has... Altho i do believe Liverpool were lucky when they won that UCL but fair play to them

utdalltheway · 5th August 2009, 00:28

just saw about the sale of Alonso. hows the reaction to that?

pillory · 5th August 2009, 00:33

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Originally Posted by utdalltheway

just saw about the sale of Alonso. hows the reaction to that?

Neither happy nor amusing.

uae · 5th August 2009, 00:34

Where is that post about Benitez, marching Owen was it? around Anfield and mentioning all these historic moments in Liverpool's history?

thoward · 5th August 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by green demon

I think it's so sweet the faith and love they have for Benitez. It's blind faith really as yet he has not really done enything to warrant this. It reminds me of the faith they had in Houllier

right up to shortly before he was sacked. Maybe they will win the championship this year, after all one year will be their year so maybe it's this one. It will be despite Benitez rather than because of him if they do.

I think he's a better manager than many people on here give him credit for.There are better managers but they wouldn't be able to get the likes of Fergie, Wenger, Hiddink, Mourinho etc so he's not a bad manager for them to have. What is baffling with them is that they seem to regard Benitez as pious, a gentleman etc (in the mould of Sir Bobby Robson) when his constant moaning about having a lack of money, his run ins with various manager, his rants do not exactly support those views.Managers at the top obviously need to have a ruthlessness about them to succeed. But it appears that Benitez has an inability to switch off.Gerrard said that Benitez didn't congratulate him in the hotel a few hours after the 2006 FA Cup Final and just said that they must do better in the league the following season.

Fergie is no angel but he does seem to have an ability to switch off from his job and help out others in football, managers, coaches, send teams for testimonials etc. What the likes of RAWK should realise is that Fergie has shown a lot of respect to Liverpool in the past. He was the first manager to visit Houllier in hospital after his heart problems. He was extremely helpful towards Liverpool after the Hillsborough Disaster (Dalglish mentioned this in his autobiography).He sent a letter of congratulations to Benitez after the 2005 Champions League Final. Shankly was a great manager for them and I've heard people comment on him being similar in many ways to Ferguson (remember he said something about United only having 3 good players during the 60s to gee up his players, he used to slag off the media for criticising his players).I reckon Shankly would have had more time for a manager like Ferguson than Benitez.

Benitez is a manager who seems to lack an ability to have any respect for other teams, managers. There is an arrogance about the man that makes me think his upbringing as a reserve team player and coach at Real Madrid has brought about.

Lynott · 5th August 2009, 16:28

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

Someone sent me a link to a post from a Liverpool forum once, where some braindead scouser said he was watching the Rep of Ireland play Wales and could not understand why the Irish were singing "The Fields of Anfield Road"

Their abominated version of the de-facto Irish national anthem always pisses me off anyway.

Too right. I wish they'd keep their thieving hands off it.

green demon · 5th August 2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Lynott

Too right. I wish they'd keep their thieving hands off it.

I'm sure "You'll never walk alone" would have remained as a decent show tune until they turned that into a dirge as well.

Livvie · 5th August 2009, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Lynott

Too right. I wish they'd keep their thieving hands off it.

It really winds me up.

Though to be fair, I think it's just because it's them, and everything they do winds me up.

Rooney24 · 5th August 2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by thoward

But it appears that Benitez has an inability to switch off.Gerrard said that Benitez didn't congratulate him in the hotel a few hours after the 2006 FA Cup Final and just said that they must do better in the league the following season.

Fergie is no angel but he does seem to have an ability to switch off from his job.

To be fair on this point it wasnt always the case. Go to around 2.19 of this Video and you will see Fergies famous reaction after Aberdeen had WON the scottish cup against Rangers.

But who knows, maybe the fat spanish waiter will learn yet

thoward · 5th August 2009, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Rooney24

To be fair on this point it wasnt always the case. Go to around 2.19 of this Video and you will see Fergies famous reaction after Aberdeen had WON the scottish cup against Rangers.

But who knows, maybe the fat spanish waiter will learn yet

I know. But I suppose to be fair it was in the heat of the moment with Fergie,the game had just finished. I remember him saying that he apologised to the players later.Fergie was a fair bit younger then than Benitez is now as well.I just reckon that Benitez comes across as a cold fish, the only manager I've seen saying nice things about him(other than saying he's a good manager) is Keane.I remember reading an article from a journalist who said that a Premier League manager turned off the television at half time in the second leg between Chelsea and Liverpool last season (with Liverpool 2-0 up) because he couldn't bear the thought of Benitez being smug if Liverpool went through.

thoward · 6th August 2009, 21:12

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/...pic=245538.200

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He's said that we won't be a threat
But he stinks of ale and sweat
He looks like he's dead
He pisses the bed
These words he will soon regret

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Yep Man u should only have two European cups because they should never have won it in 1999!

Make that one, the one Busby won in '68. Moscow mud, Terry's slip ring any bells?

As for the poster who wished he'd drop dead, I say that lets the bitter old tramp off lightly. Imagine if he did a Jock Stein (a man Ferguson isn't fit to lick the boots of), the media would have a field day, it'd be the most vomit-inducing outpouring of fake emotion ever. Won't happen anyway thankfully, they always take the good ones first (RIP Sir Bill, Sir Bob, and Sir Bobby)

No, I want him very much alive, to have a front row seat as he watches everything he's worked towards, this twisted obsession he has with us, go up in sulphurous flames. What I wouldn't give for him to watch us win No.19 this season and pull ahead again, not to mention watching us lift No.6 just to rub salt in his festering wounds. I want him to suffer professional death by a thousand cuts, to become increasingly disturbed, and humiliate himself regularly. Irrational, clearly drunk and uttering foul-mouthed tirades at journalists that give rise to the growing view that he's lost the plot. I want to see him ridiculed by Kenny, whose dignity and aura in contrast shows the honours system up for what it is, a farce. Never mind one lone specimen, I want a biblical swarm of cockroaches to crawl over him during post-match interviews. I want to see that contract he signed with Beelzebub expire at last and him deprived of success, even going down on penalties to Wolves in the Carling Cup. Yet still deluded, clinging on in hope, whilst dragging his club down with him.

Yes. I'll settle for that

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At Old Trafford deep in 2009
Alex Ferguson has got some time
To whittle Away and cause mischief
But that same time is stealing in like a thief

There's not too long left in that hourglass of time
For an alehouse purple-nosed Geriatric whine
And although he's achieved his lifelong dream
with finally catching that Liverpool team

There's still time for doubt and worry
as he feels he really, really must hurry
To get to nineteen before the end
But for this he needs to defend

Against those Men from Anfield
Down the East Lancs Road
They're getting stronger, becoming steeled
The Mancs won't be cowed

But Rafa has a plan you see
And it's growing like a tree
With branches of knowledge
Building in the league a wedge

And unlike Mr Ferguson, his time is looking long
So as the team are growing strong
With a manager that is learning so much
With that English game he's getting in touch

He's got a while to build and improve
But all the while Alex is going to move
To an Old Folks Home with soup and telly
While the bitterness gathers in his belly

So we move along to a few more years
In a dark abandoned room full of gloom
The once Boss of Mancland disbelievingly peers
And watches the Reds lift and bloom!

His career is nearly gone, his work still undone
There's no one to replace him, only some bum
But at Anfield while things gather a-pace
He looks in the mirror and can't remember.. his.. face...

Twigginater · 6th August 2009, 21:14

That second poster is a sick fucker. It's not even funny or deluded. Just disgusting.

Aporkalypse · 6th August 2009, 21:20

Wait why shouldn't we have won it in '99? Do they have a problem with the goals or the fact that we didn't give it up?

Crustanoid · 6th August 2009, 21:24

How many of the five cups they won were on pens?

thoward · 6th August 2009, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Crustanoid

How many of the five cups they won were on pens?

Two, 1984 and 2005. Overall they seem to have a phenomenal record in shoot outs, similar to the Krauts. And like the Krauts they have done well by not being the most exciting teams in the world.

thoward · 6th August 2009, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Aporkalypse

Wait why shouldn't we have won it in '99? Do they have a problem with the goals or the fact that we didn't give it up?

We were fortunate but nowhere near as fortunate as they were in 2005. Thas was extremely lucky, along the lines of Arsenal against us in the 2005 FA Cup Final and Liverpool against Arsenal in the 2001 FA Cup Final.We were not fortunate against Chelsea though.

Number7 · 6th August 2009, 21:47

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Originally Posted by thoward

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/...pic=245538.200

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I feel obliged to check this thread whenever I'm on this site, but is it just me who'd rather not read about some bitter bastard wishing death upon the great man? We know they're wankers, but I'd rather not read about someone crowing about the idea of Sir Alex dieing on redcafe tbh.

There's plenty of other examples of their delusion to keep us occupied.

Olly · 6th August 2009, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Number7

I feel obliged to check this thread whenever I'm on this site, but is it just me who'd rather not read about some bitter bastard wishing death upon the great man? We know they're wankers, but I'd rather not read about someone crowing about the idea of Sir Alex dieing on redcafe tbh.

Yeah same here.

Top · 6th August 2009, 22:01

The wishing death on our manager and players really is what makes that forum extraordinarily vile.

Some of the posters on there shouldn't be allowed anywhere near access to the internet.

Olly · 6th August 2009, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Top

The wishing death on our manager and players really is what makes that forum extraordinarily vile.

Yep, but the worst part IMO is that the "moderation" are happy to allow it.

You'd think it was one of those extreme forums like that Stormfront or something not a football forum FFS. Ok maybe a bit OTT for the comparison but you know what I mean.

Kraftwerker · 6th August 2009, 22:06

Not that it really needs to be said, but our success really kills them, it obviously tears them apart inside. When you see what they wish on Fergie - the pain, misery, bitterness - it's just them desperately wanting him to feel what they do, every single year. I can't even fathom how much they must resent Fergie for the success he's brought us at their expense.

But anyway, it can't be easy having to endure what they have. Is there even a precedent of a country's most successful team going a generation without a league title whilst their most hated rivals win everything? They're in their own little world of bitterness - you could call them an experiment. They're almost worthy of pity rather than ridicule, almost.

Great Hat · 7th August 2009, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

Not that it really needs to be said, but our success really kills them, it obviously tears them apart inside. When you see what they wish on Fergie - the pain, misery, bitterness - it's just them desperately wanting him to feel what they do, every single year. I can't even fathom how much they must resent Fergie for the success he's brought us at their expense.

But anyway, it can't be easy having to endure what they have. Is there even a precedent of a country's most successful team going a generation without a league title whilst their most hated rivals win everything? They're in their own little world of bitterness - you could call them an experiment. They're almost worthy of pity rather than ridicule, almost.

I'm pretty sure we fit into that category (we were 7-7 on titles before they went on the run, first English team to win the European cup etc), and we never reached anything like the levels of bitterness that they did. They've been starved of trophies, sure, and they've had to endure lots of defeat and frustration, but it's no excuse for the way some of them act towards our fans, and the vile things they wish upon our manager and players.

They'd be worthy of pity like you said, if the way they reacted to anything United related wasn't so severely and needlessly venomous and extreme. I remember a lot of RAWKites going on about how they wished extremely painful and life threatening injuries to Rooney a while back. Whilst most of us hate Liverpool, I've never seen a thread of that nature about Torres or Gerrard on here. They've taken rivalry to a new level, and much of their fans conduct has been inexcusable, regardless of how many trophies they have or haven't won in recent years.

Btw: Where does the thing on RAWK about Fergie being an alcoholic come from? I know they don't like us, but is there actually any solid basis underlying all the statements about the 'drunken' SAF, which seem to permeate a lot of the posts on there.

Flying Fox · 7th August 2009, 00:41

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Originally Posted by Great Hat

Btw: Where does the thing on RAWK about Fergie being an alcoholic come from? I know they don't like us, but is there actually any solid basis underlying all the statements about the 'drunken' SAF, which seem to permeate a lot of the posts on there.

Having not seen anything to 'prove' that Sir Alex is a drunk, I think that he might have quipped to a paper that he enjoyed a scotch whisky every now and again. RAWK sensationalism ensuwes and now we get this idea that SAF is a alcoholic that cant tell his arse from his elbow.

Feedingseagulls · 7th August 2009, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Flying Fox

Having not seen anything to 'prove' that Sir Alex is a drunk, I think that he might have quipped to a paper that he enjoyed a scotch whisky every now and again. RAWK sensationalism ensuwes and now we get this idea that SAF is a alcoholic that cant tell his arse from his elbow.

I think it's the combination of a few factors...

Fergie has told of his liking for wine.

Scots are archetypically portrayed as very fond of drink.

He has the red nose with visible blood-vessels that is supposedly typical of drinking.

They want to denigrate him by any means available.

Cal? · 7th August 2009, 01:06

They don't seem to realise that if Sir Alex has indeed been an alcoholic for 2 decades and still wiped the floor with them, what would happen if he remains sober.

Treble every year?

Olly · 7th August 2009, 01:08

Oh well... our manager drinks the drinks, their manager serves them.

Flying Fox · 7th August 2009, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Cal?

They don't seem to realise that if Sir Alex has indeed been an alcoholic for 2 decades and still wiped the floor with them, what would happen if he remains sober.

Treble every year?

Aye

A drunk manager has won up everything in sight the last few years while god's prophet himself (Benitez) has a Champs League and an FA Cup to his name.

Chris H · 7th August 2009, 01:16

My god. I thought we had some bad poets on here, but those...

SharkyMcShark · 7th August 2009, 08:39

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Yep Man u should only have two European cups because they should never have won it in 1999!

Make that one, the one Busby won in '68. Moscow mud, Terry's slip ring any bells?

As for the poster who wished he'd drop dead, I say that lets the bitter old tramp off lightly. Imagine if he did a Jock Stein (a man Ferguson isn't fit to lick the boots of), the media would have a field day, it'd be the most vomit-inducing outpouring of fake emotion ever. Won't happen anyway thankfully, they always take the good ones first (RIP Sir Bill, Sir Bob, and Sir Bobby)

No, I want him very much alive, to have a front row seat as he watches everything he's worked towards, this twisted obsession he has with us, go up in sulphurous flames. What I wouldn't give for him to watch us win No.19 this season and pull ahead again, not to mention watching us lift No.6 just to rub salt in his festering wounds. I want him to suffer professional death by a thousand cuts, to become increasingly disturbed, and humiliate himself regularly. Irrational, clearly drunk and uttering foul-mouthed tirades at journalists that give rise to the growing view that he's lost the plot. I want to see him ridiculed by Kenny, whose dignity and aura in contrast shows the honours system up for what it is, a farce. Never mind one lone specimen, I want a biblical swarm of cockroaches to crawl over him during post-match interviews. I want to see that contract he signed with Beelzebub expire at last and him deprived of success, even going down on penalties to Wolves in the Carling Cup. Yet still deluded, clinging on in hope, whilst dragging his club down with him.

Yes. I'll settle for that

What complete cunt of a human being.

And I really hate using that word. But this piece of work deserves it.

Denis' cuff · 7th August 2009, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Olly

Oh well... our manager drinks the drinks, their manager serves them.

I actually feel embarrassed for them when I hear that dirge Fields of Anfield......wtf are they trying to prove? They're Irish? Or just trying to be like Celtic copying another of their songs? Truly cringeworthy.

We had to watch them win everything in sight whilst we picked up the occasional cup just like they do now. Difference is, although the rivalry was just as strong as it is now, we didn't display the same bitterness and vile envy to this degree. Even then they hated us because they felt we got more than our due publicity. Probably because although we didn't win the trophies that they did, we actually played entertaining football instead of passing back to Grobbelaar, Hansen and back to Grobbelaar ad infinitum. The media liked our style of football and so did fans throughout the world, which is why we were better supported than them, even then.

Murphman · 7th August 2009, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

Not that it really needs to be said, but our success really kills them, it obviously tears them apart inside. When you see what they wish on Fergie - the pain, misery, bitterness - it's just them desperately wanting him to feel what they do, every single year. I can't even fathom how much they must resent Fergie for the success he's brought us at their expense.

But anyway, it can't be easy having to endure what they have. Is there even a precedent of a country's most successful team going a generation without a league title whilst their most hated rivals win everything? They're in their own little world of bitterness - you could call them an experiment. They're almost worthy of pity rather than ridicule, almost.

26 years. Reigning European champions and the most succesful club in England and you went 26 years. During that time your bitter enemies swept the boards.

Livvie · 7th August 2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Olly

Yep, but the worst part IMO is that the "moderation" are happy to allow it.

That's the whole problem with the site.

We have our own idiots, so I wouldn't expect RAWK to be without any.

It's their moderators who are a disgrace.

We have banned any snide comments about Hillsborough and Heysel - we had a very well behaved thread on the Hillsborough anniversary, and we don't tolerate comments about people dying etc.

In other words, we have standards. It would be easy to let this place become a free for all, and be as bad as them. But I wouldn't want it to be like RAWK here, and as it is, apart from the usual banter, we can say we're better human beings because out of decency we don't allow the crap that they do. Obviously some things might get through, but in the main, we give them a far higher level of respect than they do us.

green demon · 7th August 2009, 09:14

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Originally Posted by Murphman

26 years. Reigning European champions and the most succesful club in England and you went 26 years. During that time your bitter enemies swept the boards.

But, as has been pointed out, we were never this bitter. Envious, yes; despondent, at times; bitter like RAWK, not even close.

But at least you admit you were bitter.

Flying Fox · 7th August 2009, 09:43

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Originally Posted by Livvie

That's the whole problem with the site.

We have our own idiots, so I wouldn't expect RAWK to be without any.

It's their moderators who are a disgrace.

We have banned any snide comments about Hillsborough and Heysel - we had a very well behaved thread on the Hillsborough anniversary, and we don't tolerate comments about people dying etc.

In other words, we have standards. It would be easy to let this place become a free for all, and be as bad as them. But I wouldn't want it to be like RAWK here, and as it is, apart from the usual banter, we can say we're better human beings because out of decency we don't allow the crap that they do. Obviously some things might get through, but in the main, we give them a far higher level of respect than they do us.

Have you seen theliverpoolway yet, Livvie?

A bit more saner than RAWK, but over there, everyone has the power to rep and the subscribers (of which there are many) get the power to neg-rep. Creates a really annoying atmosphere where neutrals can hardly get their views accross without getting neg-repped to high hell. I've been neg-repped insanely in the last 24 hrs for a genuine question about Alonso's transfer.

RedThaiDevils#7 · 7th August 2009, 09:44

Too bad I was not born when Liverpool was champions. LoL, don't care about the past I care about watching good football and I can achieve that watching Manchester United.

Great Hat · 7th August 2009, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Flying Fox

Having not seen anything to 'prove' that Sir Alex is a drunk, I think that he might have quipped to a paper that he enjoyed a scotch whisky every now and again. RAWK sensationalism ensuwes and now we get this idea that SAF is a alcoholic that cant tell his arse from his elbow.

That's what I thought it probably was, but the occasional comment about enjoying a whiskey or his enjoying a glass of wine with [insert manager here] takes a crazy leap of logic to posts about the 'whiskeynosed' 'drunken govan tramp' and other things I've seen on there. It's not something that bothers me, it's just how they got from brief comments by SAF to that conclusion is crazy.

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Originally Posted by Flying Fox

A bit more saner than RAWK, but over there, everyone has the power to rep and the subscribers (of which there are many) get the power to neg-rep. Creates a really annoying atmosphere where neutrals can hardly get their views accross without getting neg-repped to high hell. I've been neg-repped insanely in the last 24 hrs for a genuine question about Alonso's transfer.

This is interesting, and might go some way to explaining how easily some of them seem to get indoctrinated into this culture of thinking the fixtures are rigged, refs are on United's side etc.; if anyone who doesn't join in with the one-sided interpretation of events which best favour Liverpool just gets their posts neg-repped by the mods.

GaryLifo · 7th August 2009, 11:09

All those horrible cnuts need is to win the league again for all the conspiracy theories and nastiness to subside.

Such a shame that they won't be getting a title in the forseeable future.

Denis' cuff · 7th August 2009, 11:25

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Originally Posted by GaryLifo

All those horrible cnuts need is to win the league again for all the conspiracy theories and nastiness to subside.

Such a shame that they won't be getting a title in the forseeable future.

if TEN opponents sent off and none of their's and TEN penalties doesn't help conspiracy theories subside, winning the league won't.

Kraftwerker · 7th August 2009, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Cal?

They don't seem to realise that if Sir Alex has indeed been an alcoholic for 2 decades and still wiped the floor with them, what would happen if he remains sober.

Treble every year?

Someone raised the very valid point that if Fergie is a senile drunk, yet wins so much, it doesn't say much for the rest of the league.

Of course, he got shouted down as a manc.

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utdalltheway First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Irvine, California, USA Posts: 10,444	just saw about the sale of Alonso. hows the reaction to that?

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Aporkalypse First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cyprus Posts: 5,068	Wait why shouldn't we have won it in '99? Do they have a problem with the goals or the fact that we didn't give it up?

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Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country. Posts: 9,120	Not that it really needs to be said, but our success really kills them, it obviously tears them apart inside. When you see what they wish on Fergie - the pain, misery, bitterness - it's just them desperately wanting him to feel what they do, every single year. I can't even fathom how much they must resent Fergie for the success he's brought us at their expense. But anyway, it can't be easy having to endure what they have. Is there even a precedent of a country's most successful team going a generation without a league title whilst their most hated rivals win everything? They're in their own little world of bitterness - you could call them an experiment. They're almost worthy of pity rather than ridicule, almost.

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Cal? from Redcafe (matchfixing department) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: It's our perch now... Posts: 19,957	They don't seem to realise that if Sir Alex has indeed been an alcoholic for 2 decades and still wiped the floor with them, what would happen if he remains sober. Treble every year?

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Olly As creative with a computer as Paul Scholes is with a ball Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A pair of feckin' women's knickers! Posts: 8,980	Oh well... our manager drinks the drinks, their manager serves them.

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Chris H First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,742	My god. I thought we had some bad poets on here, but those...

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RedThaiDevils#7 First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Married with Manchester United, In love with Giggs, Is passionate about Scholes, and is rooting for Bebe' Posts: 5,548	Too bad I was not born when Liverpool was champions. LoL, don't care about the past I care about watching good football and I can achieve that watching Manchester United.

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GaryLifo Nice Bloke Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Davo thinks I'm weird Posts: 4,122	All those horrible cnuts need is to win the league again for all the conspiracy theories and nastiness to subside. Such a shame that they won't be getting a title in the forseeable future.