Real Madrid have changed their crest...

DoctorEvil · 7th June 2008, 02:28

As much as I despise Real I think this is over the top.

Dresilved · 7th June 2008, 02:39

^I dont see whats so wrong with making use of a very famous neolithic Indian symbol

Nem 7 · 7th June 2008, 02:48

I don't get it.

PeteReDevil · 7th June 2008, 03:08

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Originally Posted by DoctorEvil

As much as I despise Real I think this is over the top.

Same here. They're maybe in top 5 hated clubs, but the swastika?
but did CQ draw this?

jasonrh · 7th June 2008, 03:51

Spain were the final fascist government in the world. Franco died in 1975.

He bankrolled Madrid and granted back the "Real" to give a false sense of continuity with the monarchy.

He in turn was originally bankrolled and supplied by Hitler.

cj_lad · 7th June 2008, 04:24

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

They were the final fascist government in the world. Franco died in 1975.

He bankrolled them and granted back the "Real" to give a false sense of continuity with the monarchy.

He in turn was bankrolled and supplied by Hitler.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement which implies that there was more to the relationship than was actually the case. Hitler provided Franco with desperately needed supplies for use during the Civil War, but when it came to WW2 Franco understandably wanted to limit Spain's involvement on the back of the terrible destruction witnessed from 1936-39. The two entered into negotiations over Spanish participation, but Franco made what Hitler saw as insulting demands for armaments, which pretty much brought an end to any co-operation between the pair. In fact, Hitler later famously told Mussolini that he would rather have his teeth pulled out than have to speak to Franco again.

Franco was in fact much more substantially bankrolled and supplied by the USA, who saw great value in the his anti-communist agenda. This was highlighted by the 1953 Pact of Madrid, which exchanged economic aid for the Spanish hosting of US military bases.

Alex · 7th June 2008, 06:21

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Originally Posted by DoctorEvil

As much as I despise Real I think this is over the top.

concur

Sky1981 · 7th June 2008, 07:03

I don't think we should resort to this.... sigh....

KeyserSoze · 7th June 2008, 07:25

The Swastika is probably slightly over the top for this situation.

TheRedFlag · 7th June 2008, 12:47

I think its spot on.

They're a horrible club.

RedKaos · 7th June 2008, 13:35

Sums them um perfectly, nothing wrong with it - it no secret that fascism is strongly associated with this club.

Lizard King · 7th June 2008, 14:43

Snigger

KingMinger22 · 7th June 2008, 15:16

HAHAHA

That's class!

vanthaman · 7th June 2008, 15:22

nice one

Don16 · 7th June 2008, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Lizard King

Snigger

Racist.

Crumpsall Red · 7th June 2008, 16:56

With you on this Jason!

Facist bastards!

Neil_Buchanan · 7th June 2008, 17:07

there worse than the nazis

Fortitude · 7th June 2008, 17:28

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Originally Posted by cj_lad

That's a bit of a sweeping statement which implies that there was more to the relationship than was actually the case. Hitler provided Franco with desperately needed supplies for use during the Civil War, but when it came to WW2 Franco understandably wanted to limit Spain's involvement on the back of the terrible destruction witnessed from 1936-39. The two entered into negotiations over Spanish participation, but Franco made what Hitler saw as insulting demands for armaments, which pretty much brought an end to any co-operation between the pair. In fact, Hitler later famously told Mussolini that he would rather have his teeth pulled out than have to speak to Franco again.
Franco was in fact much more substantially bankrolled and supplied by the USA, who saw great value in the his anti-communist agenda. This was highlighted by the 1953 Pact of Madrid, which exchanged economic aid for the Spanish hosting of US military bases.

Christ. Facist Big Brother.

"Day 2

Hitler has told Mussolini to tell Franco he says up yours. As revenge, Franco has stolen Hitler's moustache scissors'.

niMic · 7th June 2008, 18:33

I'd agree more if you changed the Lazio crest. I'm no big fan of Real Madrid, but I absolutely despise Lazio.

ecantona7 · 7th June 2008, 18:51

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Originally Posted by niMic

I'd agree more if you changed the Lazio crest. I'm no big fan of Real Madrid, but I absolutely despise Lazio.

but you are a fan of them, just not a big one, right?

Vinay · 7th June 2008, 19:42

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Originally Posted by DoctorEvil

As much as I despise Real I think this is over the top.

This one's not the Nazi swastika... It's in its Indian orientation...

IBleedRed · 7th June 2008, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonrh

Spain were the final fascist government in the world. Franco died in 1975.

He bankrolled Madrid and granted back the "Real" to give a false sense of continuity with the monarchy.

He in turn was originally bankrolled and supplied by Hitler.

interesting points

Raven_Blade · 7th June 2008, 21:05

That suits them perfectly.

WeasteDevil · 8th June 2008, 02:27

Mariquitas would be better.

ScipioAfricanus · 8th June 2008, 02:59

While the PC Police may think its OTT, and it is, I laughed my ass off, quality!!

jasonrh · 8th June 2008, 03:35

Julissa is a touch extremely pissed off.

I made it her wallpaper when she started up her computer today.

ScipioAfricanus · 8th June 2008, 04:07

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

Julissa is a touch extremely pissed off.

I made it her wallpaper when she started up her computer today.

Wonder why?

bbest · 8th June 2008, 04:33

FYI, during the wartime, the Nazis nicked the swastika sign from Buddhism, a symbol of peace, and twisted the sign for their party emblem.

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

Midfield · 8th June 2008, 05:32

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Originally Posted by bbest

FYI, during the wartime, the Nazis nicked the swastika sign from Buddhism, a symbol of peace, and twisted the sign for their party emblem.

Correct, but the original Buddhism swastika sign have a different direction.

jasonrh · 8th June 2008, 07:49

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Originally Posted by ScipioAfricanus

Wonder why?

I was quite puzzled.

She told me to go in the other room and watch my faggits (Ronaldo and Nani, obviously) and not to come out until she damned well told me to. I was quite hurt.

She normally curses at me in English as well.

Everything's kosher now, though. Of course I'm not sure what she'll think of 'We'll Never Die' being put into her car stereo for when she turns it on to go to work on Monday.

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