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Old 17th July 2008, 19:38   #1 (permalink)
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Roy Keane is a twat...

I've calmed down now, apologies Roy, i don't think you're a twat
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:42   #2 (permalink)
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did he shag your wife?
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:42   #3 (permalink)
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yes, but more importantly he inferred that Ronaldo moving to Madrid would constitute moving on to "bigger and better things"...
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:43   #4 (permalink)
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friendlytramp is a twat...

and if you bring him to me i will fight him
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:44   #5 (permalink)
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Reasons friendlytramp?

Or have you just been on the Special Brew again
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:44   #6 (permalink)
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I wouldn't fight Roy Keane, even if I did think he was a twat.
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:48   #7 (permalink)
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Funny, he speaks very highly of you friendly...
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:53   #8 (permalink)
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Sunderland manager Roy Keane has supported Cristiano Ronaldo's fight to leave Manchester United by saying clubs are just as disloyal as the players.

The Irishman is still hurt at the way he was forced out of Old Trafford after sterling service for The Red Devils when a controversial unbroadcast MUTV interview saw him openly criticise his team-mates individually and signal the beginning of the end of his United career.

Although he is strongly fancied to return to Manchester one day to manage the European champions, Keane has clearly not forgotten the way in which he was swiftly ushered out of the club.

Despite not referring specifically to his former team-mate, Keane did state that his advice to players is to look after themselves.

"I think it's always been the case if players fancy leaving and make it hard for a manager and their attitude isn't up to scratch, then you sell them," he declared.

"Having said that, in defence of players, when a club is finished with you, they get rid.

"My advice is look after yourself. If you get a chance for bigger and better things, then go for it.

"I've experienced that myself.

"People question players' loyalty. I question clubs' loyalty.

"It's a business to them. If you're not needed then you can be out of the door in 10 minutes, and I'm speaking from experience.

"It works both ways. Anyway Prateik bums goats"

That's the bit that really pissed me off, i've calmed down a little now, but unfortunately i can't delete the thread...
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:54   #9 (permalink)
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:55   #10 (permalink)
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To be honest, it is true, for all his meritous service, he gets the boot.
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:56   #11 (permalink)
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:57   #12 (permalink)
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Sunderland manager Roy Keane has supported Cristiano Ronaldo's fight to leave Manchester United by saying clubs are just as disloyal as the players.

The Irishman is still hurt at the way he was forced out of Old Trafford after sterling service for The Red Devils when a controversial unbroadcast MUTV interview saw him openly criticise his team-mates individually and signal the beginning of the end of his United career.

Although he is strongly fancied to return to Manchester one day to manage the European champions, Keane has clearly not forgotten the way in which he was swiftly ushered out of the club.

Despite not referring specifically to his former team-mate, Keane did state that his advice to players is to look after themselves.

"I think it's always been the case if players fancy leaving and make it hard for a manager and their attitude isn't up to scratch, then you sell them," he declared.

"Having said that, in defence of players, when a club is finished with you, they get rid.

"My advice is look after yourself. If you get a chance for bigger and better things, then go for it.

"I've experienced that myself.

"People question players' loyalty. I question clubs' loyalty.

"It's a business to them. If you're not needed then you can be out of the door in 10 minutes, and I'm speaking from experience.

"It works both ways."

That's the bit that really pissed me off, i've calmed down a little now, but unfortunately i can't delete the thread...
Bit of an odd thing to say from Keano, whats it all about? I think its quite obvious we aren't 'finished' with Ronaldo.
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:59   #13 (permalink)
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I hate this "clubs dont respect players' contracts either" bullshit.

If a player isn't getting played then they can rot in the reserves and still get paid their wage or they can fuck off. They have a choice whether or not to sign for a club, nobody can force them to sign, just as no player should be able to force a club to sell.
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Old 17th July 2008, 19:59   #14 (permalink)
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He's spot on
You think Real are bigger and better too?! Would you say that you would be easier to fight than Keano, or harder, or about the same?
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:00   #15 (permalink)
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He's only saying that because his only sellable asset is currently crocked otherwise he'd be very quiet on the issue.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:01   #16 (permalink)
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He's spot on
One day you are going to elaborate on one of your posts and half the caf will probably die of shock.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:03   #17 (permalink)
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You think Real are bigger and better too?! Would you say that you would be easier to fight than Keano, or harder, or about the same?
he is saying it from a players point of view. a "bigger, better thing" could mean wages, climate, lifestyle etc. if he said club id be more inclined to agree with you. sort of.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:05   #18 (permalink)
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he is saying it from a players point of view. a "bigger, better thing" could mean wages, climate, lifestyle etc. if he said club id be more inclined to agree with you. sort of.
I think thats a lame defence rim, no offence.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:06   #19 (permalink)
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There is no doubt that becoming a manager has instilled a bit of arrogance and self righteousness in him.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:09   #20 (permalink)
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There is no doubt that becoming a manager has instilled a bit of arrogance and self righteousness in him.
I would not say it was becoming a manager that did that!
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:10   #21 (permalink)
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I think thats a lame defence rim, no offence.
none taken smashed. im used to your rimaldo bashing now.

he might still be a little bitter about how we got rid of him. im sure he had loads of offers to move on at various stages of his career. i remember most of the big italian clubs coming in for him at one stage or other and he obviously turned them down. they could have offered him all what i mentioned above but he chose to stay with us out of loyalty (or whatever reason) and then we just boot him out later on when we feel like it.
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none taken smashed. im used to your rimaldo bashing now.

he might still be a little bitter about how we got rid of him. im sure he had loads of offers to move on at various stages of his career. i remember most of the big italian clubs coming in for him at one stage or other and he obviously turned them down. they could have offered him all what i mentioned above but he chose to stay with us out of loyalty (or whatever reason) and then we just boot him out later on when we feel like it.
He didn't want to move his family abroad as far as I can remember, being the main reason.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:16   #23 (permalink)
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He didn't want to move his family abroad as far as I can remember, being the main reason.
that is fair enough but i still think his main point is not really directed at ronaldo although he is hinting at it. he is just saying there is no point in staying at a club out of loyalty when a better offer is on the table as the club will just get rid of you when ever they feel like it anyway.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:20   #24 (permalink)
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You think Real are bigger and better too?! Would you say that you would be easier to fight than Keano, or harder, or about the same?
he didnt say it specifically to ronaldo did he,

he said players should look after themselves, if they get bigger and better things they should go for it.

Nothing wrong with it IMO

and even if it is regards to ronaldo

if he thinks that real are bigger and better than us, then let him feck off

Do we need to justify who is bigger or better ? Hell No, if he thinks otherwise its his choice, forget it.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:23   #25 (permalink)
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he didnt say it specifically to ronaldo did he,

he said players should look after themselves, if they get bigger and better things they should go for it.

Nothing wrong with it IMO

and even if it is regards to ronaldo

if he thinks that real are bigger and better than us, then let him feck off

Do we need to justify who is bigger or better ? Hell No, if he thinks otherwise its his choice, forget it.
you sir are as intelligent as i am. well maybe i shouldn't go that far but you are certainly fairly smart.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:26   #26 (permalink)
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he didnt say it specifically to ronaldo did he,

he said players should look after themselves, if they get bigger and better things they should go for it.

Nothing wrong with it IMO

and even if it is regards to ronaldo

if he thinks that real are bigger and better than us, then let him feck off

Do we need to justify who is bigger or better ? Hell No, if he thinks otherwise its his choice, forget it.
Agreed. I don't see any mention of Ronaldo in his quotes.
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:30   #27 (permalink)
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Agreed. I don't see any mention of Ronaldo in his quotes.
mate, dont get deluded, he obviously means about the ronaldo saga, stop kidding yourself.

keano just holds a grudge, the things he said are a bit odd and disrespectful and he really should have just kept his mouth shut but dont let it wind you up.

were in a win/win situation here, either keep ronaldo and have the best player in the world, or sell him and pocket 50-70m either way il be a happy man.
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He's spot on
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Old 17th July 2008, 20:32   #29 (permalink)
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you sir are as intelligent as i am. well maybe i shouldn't go that far but you are certainly fairly smart.
thank you, I am greatly honoured
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keane can do no wrong ..

whatever he says , i agree
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mate, dont get deluded, he obviously means about the ronaldo saga, stop kidding yourself.

keano just holds a grudge, the things he said are a bit odd and disrespectful and he really should have just kept his mouth shut but dont let it wind you up.

were in a win/win situation here, either keep ronaldo and have the best player in the world, or sell him and pocket 50-70m either way il be a happy man.
Or maybe he's talking about a transfer target he's after?