So...who actually turned out a star from the Championship/Football Manager series?

D J Dog Toffee

I read an article in a fairly well to do magazine/website (I can't recall which one now..?) that was talking to the people at SI before the launch of 08.

There were a few things that were amusing, such as Football Manager was quoted in 35 divorce proceedings in the UK, the previous year, as being the main reason for separation.

The guy also said that many of the scouts that the game uses have since been headhunted by large clubs all over Europe. So to think that real clubs may use the database in some capacity is not too far fetched.

I would assume that a club like Chelsea would not use the game as the 'be all and end all' of their scouting system, and purely spend £20+m pounds on a player because he rocks on FM in 2014?

But the database is really just a system of grading players abilities and making informed predictions about how the players will progress, then presenting the findings in a numerical form. It's not really a far cry from a professional analysis system such as Pro-Zone, or the like, which high profile managers (and Steve McClaren) admittedly use.

But in the game I found Tevez a few years back, to replace Paul Scholes in my United side. I hadn't heard about him before then.

Skholesy

In 97/98, If you took hold of a club with shit finances, there was a CD called kevin james which you could always buy who'd singlehandedly turn your defense into one capable of surviving relegation.

Gazza

The one that came out around 1996 had a hceat where if a club accepted your offer, you could change the offer to 0 and press cancel and it would allow you to buy the player for free. I can't remember which one it was...

Teddy Lukic was class on that one

Diver

Is he anygood?

Stick

Having only seen a few of the players from FM progress to any standard in reality can we assume that while their scouting base may be large, it is obviously flawed. Why would clubs use it?

VII

Best striker I had was Andri Sigporson (sp?) in that version of CM where Saviola was 15 or 16.

Younited.7

We are not talking about the top clubs...

Smaller clubs with limited resources for scouting may well use tools such as the SI database. There are flaws in any scouting system, even ours, Fergie has signed many a shit player in his time, does this mean that he wont use his scouting system?

Say you are going to Brazil for a few months, know little about players but have a few contacts; you scan the full Brazilian database (contributed to by Brazilian scouts) and ask about a few players, go see them play and possibly pick up a few decent signings. No tool can predict the exact result of a players career Utds or SIs, but, as we know that the SI database is not fictional and they do scout their players; I am sure many of the players on there do have some talent and if picked up could fulfill it, it is not always about finding the next world player of the year because most club scouts will pick up these sort of players.

Come on, get your glasses on.

Name Changed

There were 2 made up players in an old version of Championship Manager that used to be brilliant. A defender caller Farrah Orosco and a striker, Mark Collins or something like that. They were brilliant, but not real. I think the game editors just put themselves into the game? Does anyone remember that?

CockneyHammer

Championship Manager is the one you want to use, they use pro zone stats which are much more in depth and a lot of managers do consult pro zone when looking to sign a player

For example;




Although Pro Zone is mainly a match analysis tool the Championship manager database was built using pro zone stats so good players on there are much more likely to be good players in real life

lao

Someone know if the most promising defender in PES5, Vomme, is somewhere to be seen in real life? My centre back pairing of Vomme and Pique in the middle with Mathieu on left back was invincible!

ninja_alan

Robben was brilliant in cm 01/02. He was 16 at the time and playing for Groningen. Allan borgvardt was great on cm 99/00 he now plays for bryne in norway.

Decotron

he was actually world class at that age, remember seeing him and thinking he'd go and be a genuine superstar

cw1984

Paul Ifill was immense on the red Champ Man i think. I had him at Napoli and he regularly scored 40+ goals per season.

Taribo West!! He was on a free too!

They had Gago as a up and coming star a few years before he went to Madrid.

Its mainly the south american players they're very good at....

If their scouting system really is that accurate and anything to go by..... Manuch isnt on the latest Footy Manager

Lizard King

I always used to buy Ronaldinho years and years ago, he turned out alright.

I bought Tevez on 99/00 too, but he was shit on it.

Younited.7

Ronaldinho was unbelievable, scored something like 50 goals in one season for me, average rating of 8.6 or something. Bought Robben from Groningen, who was also immense. Mark Kerr from Falkirk was class.

Hofland Nesta Ferdinand was my defence for years.

The good ol days.

Crustanoid

The one where we had just bought Kleberson, Djemba etc...

Djembas value went up to like15mi, but Kleberson was 30mil at one point.

Forlan turned out to be a god in that one too

Younited.7

Ha ha ha

Kleberson was a God.

Fuck maybe i was addicted for longer than i thought, fuck.

lem8sh

Hersi and kisliy were the best i ever found

Christofaux

I used to always get Gamst Pederson when he was still in Norway, his stats made him a good CM/CAM.

I always used to buy Helder Barbosa (at 16) and Gianpaolo Pazzini (at 18)(who still could make it to the top of Italian football) among others who i cant remember atm.

Bonera as well when he was at Brescia.

Younited.7

Somebody must remember Peter Prospar?

[Hellboy]17

Haestad was great on FM2006/07

Gio

How can we forget? I heard the reason he was so good was that while he was 28, he started the game as an 18-year-old.

Psmith

Andrey Arshavin was good on FM.

Smash-E

Cavenaghi was my favourite... no idea how he turned out...

then there was the likes of robben, VDV, Stekelenberg, Wiese, Julio Bapista, and Adriano.

I remember on the really old CMs, I always sue to sign titus Bramble and Heskey for United

cesc's_mullet

This is for CM 03/04

Daniel Braathen - Forward Left, 21.

Sign him for 45-60k, stick him up-front, and he'd score at a goal per game ratio (at least).

Then there was Trond Erik Bertelsen - Defender/Midfield Left, 19.

Sign him from 35k, stick him at Left Back, change the tactics to allowing him to run with the ball and put in extra crosses (he has crossing of 19 and dribbling of 17 usually, with pace to burn) and you'll have one of the best Left Backs in the game.

maniak

Tó Madeira wasn´t a real player. It was the name of some portuguese guy who worked for SI and decided to include himself in the game with amazing stats.

He was caught and fired.

Eto'odinho

Tobias Grahn - A god like striker in CM04
Ewerthon - Used to average 48 goals a season in Fm2005
Inge Hagelaand - A giant of a defender in Fm2006

Younited.7

People seemed to have wandered off the beaten track, try and research to see if these players were successful.

Bo.

Stobzilla

Michael Branch and Jon o'Connor for Everton on CM 97/98 - both shite.
Tommy Svindal Larsen for Stabaek - The best buy on that game you could ever have, shite in real life.


I'm gonna consult the game, Victor Ikpeba was mint for Monaco IIRC.

ben_united

You sir are a legend, blackpool are class

But you are wrong, he has jus signed for huddersfield on a free!!

Joker

I actually started an FM game for fun in the Swedish lowest division, and he was in the team I picked. I remember him from the older ones and he played for Derby as well.