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Old 1st August 2008, 16:21   #1 (permalink)
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Spurs accused of hypocrisy

Sevilla president Jose Maria del Nido has stoked the fires of his long-standing grudge with Tottenham by describing the North London club as ‘hypocrisy personified’ over their strong stance against Manchester United.

Tottenham have reported the English champions to The Premier League for their pursuit of Dimitar Berbatov, and a strongly-worded statement from chairman Daniel Levy on July 18 accused United of ‘sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players’ after reputed quotes from Sir Alex Ferguson that have since been discredited.

Levy also described United’s conduct as ‘disgraceful’ and accused Ferguson of being ‘unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid’.

However, Levy’s response to United’s interest in his star player has been met with incredulity in Spain, after Tottenham infuriated Sevilla last season when prising coach Juande Ramos from Estadio Ramon Sanchez Pizjuan.

Spurs officials were pictured meeting the then-Sevilla boss in August 2007 and Del Nido even threatened to report Tottenham to Fifa for allegedly making an illegal approach.

Twelve months down the line, the Sevilla chairman has made perfectly clear he feels little sympathy for Levy and Spurs in their current predicament.

“Tottenham are hypocrisy personified,” Del Nido told the Spanish press.

The North London club are also believed to be chasing Sevilla winger Diego Capel but Del Nido is determined not to let the player leave the club, stating: “Capel is not for sale.”

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/Ne...Nido-on-Spurs/

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Old 1st August 2008, 16:57   #7 (permalink)
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Dont worry, im sure there is an explanation for all this from any Spurs fan.
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No club is whiter than white so its pretty funny really.

Spurs just wanted to play themselves as victims.
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Stick that in your pussy glaston.
The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.
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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.
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Glaston, I have nothing against you and welcome your opinions on this board. However, I think you have your tinted specs on now because we all know that all clubs tap up, I am sure Utd have and I am also sure Spurs have. Not all clubs bother reporting to FIFA because nothing is done about it (see Ronaldo and Real MAdrid). The FA may have more balls than FIFA, but that would be more because it is Utd they can take down rather than anything else. But, for you to think Spurs never tapped up Ramos is very very silly.
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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.
Spurs never carried through their threat against Liverpool, was that excuses for spurs fans I wonder...
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Zidane it was that generous donation, the transfer fee and Levy's passionate statement. It all makes selling your best players exciting.
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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.

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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.


What a tube.

Of course the fact that Spurs gave Sevilla a handsome (and no doubt inflated, after Spurs were busted tapping up Ramos) pay-off for Ramos' services has no bearing on them deciding against reporting them to FIFA.

Just like Levy's decision not to report Liverpool to the PL has nothing to do with Liverpool waving a fat cheque in their direction to sign Robbie Keane.
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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.
Perhaps Sevilla realized that reporting a club to FIFA over those things is not really going to work and gathered up some sense, unlike you who still believe that United will be severely punished for something we haven't done.
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... for you to think Spurs never tapped up Ramos is very very silly.
Spurs deny it, Ramos denies it and Seville have not reported us for it. So all we are left with is the opinion of some that it occurred.

If you have solid evidence that it did occur, then it's strange that Seville have not seized the chance to screw Spurs into the ground, as they'd surely love to because Ramos preferred us to them.
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Del Nido is correct - huge hypocrisy here. Mind you, most clubs are guilty of it.
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Spurs never carried through their threat against Liverpool, was that excuses for spurs fans I wonder...
It hardly needs saying, but obviously that's because Liverpool publicly admitted wrong-doing, publicly apologised, payed us handsome compensation (20.3m) and donated cash to a Spurs charity.
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Spurs deny it, Ramos denies it and Seville have not reported us for it. So all we are left with is the opinion of some that it occurred.

If you have solid evidence that it did occur, then it's strange that Seville have not seized the chance to screw Spurs into the ground, as they'd surely love to because Ramos preferred us to them.
They probably already have.

How much did you end up paying them off for their manager?
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Glaston, think about it. Ramos was under contract at Sevilla. They did not want Ramos to leave, so how do you think he came to leave? Did Sevilla give Spurs permission to talk to him? I cannot believe you are still believing that big bad United tapped Berbatov up, but good little spurs went through all the proper channels. Spurs shit is the same colour as every other club, don't think otherwise.
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... you who still believe that United will be severely punished for something we haven't done.
Your words in my mouth again. I haven't said MUFC will 'be severely punished' - just like you I've no idea what the PL's judgement of the case will be.
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It hardly needs saying, but obviously that's because Liverpool publicly admitted wrong-doing, publicly apologised, payed us handsome compensation (20.3m) and donated cash to a Spurs charity.
I knew the whole compensation thing would come back at me but like Pogue is saying no doubt you lot payed seville off.
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I used to think the flak Glaston got was unfair, but I am beginning to see how one-sided he can be with his opinions. Spurs can do no wrong in his eyes. Even I, a die-hard United fan, KNOW that the club have tapped players in the past and continue to do so. Yet, in his eyes, Spurs never have and are angels in the footballing world.
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Del Nido is correct - huge hypocrisy here. Mind you, most clubs are guilty of it.
I would say "all"

But it seems that only Spurs have a chairman spastic enough to throw a tantrum, based on an article in the Sun.
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I would say "all"

But it seems that only Spurs have a chairman spastic enough to throw a tantrum, based on an article in the Sun.
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Your words in my mouth again. I haven't said MUFC will 'be severely punished' - just like you I've no idea what the PL's judgement of the case will be.
I clearly remember you saying that punishment can be severe.

I inform you that if there's a punishment (unlikely occurance), it will be peanuts.
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I would say "all"

But it seems that only Spurs have a chairman spastic enough to throw a tantrum, based on an article in the Sun.
Agree with that.

I wonder how much of it is simply spin for the Spurs fans, so Levy can (eventually) justify selling Berbatov because another club had unsettled him and broke all the rules etc etc
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Agree with that.

I wonder how much of it is simply spin for the Spurs fans, so Levy can (eventually) justify selling Berbatov because another club had unsettled him and broke all the rules etc etc
Well he's already used that excuse once with Robbie Keane. He's quite probably thick-skinned enough to do it again.

Twice in one week would be pushing it though. No doubt he'll string out the Berbatov thing for a while longer.
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I clearly remember you saying that punishment can be severe.

I inform you that if there's a punishment (unlikely occurance), it will be peanuts.
I doubt there will be - not if Real escape censure from Fifa. Perhaps a slap on the wrist at worst, such as a warning as to future conduct.
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Well he's already used that excuse once with Robbie Keane. He's quite probably thick-skinned enough to do it again.
The ground work was done in the initial statement which this all started from. Judging by the reactions of the Spurs fans Levy has played it well.
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All clubs do it, through agents and other intermediaries. They try to find out if a client would be interested in moving to their club. The opposite is true as well, with agents constantly shopping their clients to other clubs. The only way a club will be punished is if they are stupid enough to get caught.
Mind you, Jaap Stam even stated in his book that United tapped him up, but I don't recall PSV reporting them to FIFA, so just because Sevilla did not report Spurs does not mean Spurs were not guilty. I will say it again, how did Ramos find out Spurs were interested, because I doubt Sevilla would let him know of any interest.
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"Spurs officials were pictured meeting the then-Sevilla boss in August 2007 "

Probably just an off chance visit, huh?
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So let me get this straight

Real Madrid get accused of foul play by Man United
Man United get accused of foul play by Tottenham
Tottenham get accused of foul play by Sevilla


Who is going to accuse them?
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The Seville president is obviously and understandably bitter about the fact that Ramos left them to come to Spurs and needs to provide excuses for Seville fans - hence his comments. But words are cheap - it's actions that count and Seville have not reported Spurs to FIFA for tapping up, whereas Spurs have reported MUFC to the PL.

Therein lies the difference. And all your angry words don't change it.
So let me get this straight just because you have reported MUFC to the PL means MUFC are guilty???????????????



last time I checked nothin has come out of it yet
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So let me get this straight

Real Madrid get accused of foul play by Man United
Man United get accused of foul play by Tottenham
Tottenham get accused of foul play by Sevilla


Who is going to accuse them?
I will, if you want.

Anyway, Levy is filibustering. That much is obvious.
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