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Old 18th July 2008, 22:45   #41 (permalink)
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Yeah, tomorrows Sun just says "Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed United have made a bid for Berbatov and eventually expects the deal to go through. "

Surely to fuck they should be mentioning that they are the only newpaper who says Fergie confirmed this! Surely this "exclusive" interview shoulld be something to be bragging about?

God, half of me is angry about the ignorance of Levy and the crapness of The Sun, while the other half of me is just laughing at the absurdity of it all.

Some posts from a norwegian United fansite end up in The Sun via RedCafe and suddenly we have 3 clubs at war!!! It's just surreal!
So the caf's gonna fuck Spurs? Ace!
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Old 19th July 2008, 00:56   #42 (permalink)
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Hypocrisy.
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:05   #43 (permalink)
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All right.

Ronaldo says (sort of): "I want to play for my boyhood heroes, Real Madrid"
Calderon says (sort of): "We want to buy Ronaldo"
Redcafe says: "Ronaldo and Calderon are twats and must die"

Berbatov says: "I want to play for utd 'cos they're ace"
SAF says: "We want to buy Berbatov 'cos he's ace"
Redcafe says: "Spurs are twats and must die"

Hypocrisy thy name is football
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:07   #44 (permalink)
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Fuck Off Levy

We've not even chased Berbatov him and his agent have been engineering this move since the day he got to London. I've always had a soft spot for Spurs they hate Arsenal as much as us and traditionally play our sort of football. My Brother and Nephew are huge Spurs fans who get a worse deal of Mr Levy and Pals then we get off the Glazers. I really think Mr Levy should look at his own record in the Transfer market. The man who looks around for clubs teetering on the edge of administration then buys their prize assets for a fraction of their true value. Remember Lennon from Leeds Dawson from forest defoe and carrick from West ham people in Glasshouse shouldn't throw stones. Fergie just said that he wanted Berbatov and had made a bid if they dont accept it we wont speak to him thats the rules. Its nothing like that facist cunt in Madrid tapping up our player all summer and if FIFA say thats ok for them to do to us then its ok for us to do to you.
If Mr Levy is really so concerned for his club why doesn't he put his hands in his pockets a little further and build them a bigger ground so that they can really compete against bigger clubs or actually buy more Quality players rather then every half decent teenager in the country at knock down price only for them to rot in your reserves its no wonder when you actually get the odd top class player they soon want leave for bigger clubs for European football and medals. Sol Campbell got crucified for having ambition, but even the sacred Sherigham had to leave and Carrick and now Berbatov why they want to play at the highest level and win trophys (and the league Cup is only a trophy worth winning if your in 10th) Also why do you (Mr Levy) charge my brother £20 a ticket more to watch your mid=table losers than Mr Glazer (supposedly Satan) charges me to watch the European Champions. That old London is Dearer chessnut is bollocks Football is dear throughout Britain these days. I started following United in the Mid 80's and our kid followed spurs both clubs were pretty even at the time both Cup teams who couldn't win the league. Spurs should learn from us not berate us I think Mr Levy should Build spurs their own Ashburton Grove I have lots of family in and around London and know they easily have the fan base to fill a 60-70,000 stadium, Not sack his manager every 18 months this has been the key to our success, with the exception of Chelsea( who live in fantasy world with all their monopoly money and boring Football) the top four keep faith with their managers and back them and it shows the year everton managed to break into the top four at Liverpools expense Liverpool won the Champions League.
And finally if your going to continually give your fans a shit team to watch at least have the decency to lower price like Mr Learner did at Villa (the worst kind of capitalist a Credit Card Company owner)
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:22   #45 (permalink)
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All right.

Ronaldo says (sort of): "I want to play for my boyhood heroes, Real Madrid"
Calderon says (sort of): "We want to buy Ronaldo"
Redcafe says: "Ronaldo and Calderon are twats and must die"

Berbatov says: "I want to play for utd 'cos they're ace"
SAF says: "We want to buy Berbatov 'cos he's ace"
Redcafe says: "Spurs are twats and must die"

Hypocrisy thy name is football
Difference being we've made a bid and Fergie hasn't really said Berbatov specifically. But carry on being "objective".
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:46   #46 (permalink)
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All right.

Ronaldo says (sort of): "I want to play for my boyhood heroes, Real Madrid"
Calderon says (sort of): "We want to buy Ronaldo"
Redcafe says: "Ronaldo and Calderon are twats and must die"

Berbatov says: "I want to play for utd 'cos they're ace"
SAF says: "We want to buy Berbatov 'cos he's ace"
Redcafe says: "Spurs are twats and must die"

Hypocrisy thy name is football
Caftards will always be Caftards.

By the way, Did we sign the Berbanator?
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:48   #47 (permalink)
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Link to where the quotes were brought to light on the caf?
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Old 19th July 2008, 01:58   #48 (permalink)
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All right.

Ronaldo says (sort of): "I want to play for my boyhood heroes, Real Madrid"
Calderon says (sort of): "We want to buy Ronaldo"
Redcafe says: "Ronaldo and Calderon are twats and must die"

Berbatov says: "I want to play for utd 'cos they're ace"
SAF says: "We want to buy Berbatov 'cos he's ace"
Redcafe says: "Spurs are twats and must die"

Hypocrisy thy name is football


Comparing uniteds conduct to madrids is laughable. as is berbatovs to 2 or 3 days time, slave ronaldo.
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Old 19th July 2008, 04:16   #49 (permalink)
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Just getting his excuses in early so all the fans think he tried oh so hard to keep the players. Just like with Carrick.
Exactly. They are about to lose two of their best players, both fan favorites. Shame that Keane would opt for the scousers, always liked him.
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Old 19th July 2008, 04:41   #50 (permalink)
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Not that United did anything wrong, Fergie said he made a bid for a player and is confident, meaning we were not told to fuck off, meaning they will and want to sell, but didn't Herr Blatter say its ok to publicly tap up players? Perhaps this one time we should listen to FIFA and do what they tell us is ok, cause when United moaned about Real, they said it was fine.
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Old 19th July 2008, 08:46   #51 (permalink)
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Hardly the same as naming a player.
Aye, but you can bet we approached him without Spurs permission. If Spurs had given us permission, he'd be a United player already.

Anyway I don't get why fans get so up in arms about these things, and the hypocricy involved. We didn't report Real because we wanted them punished for tapping up Ronaldo, we reported them as a way of telling them to fuck off, and to force them onto the defensive...and it worked. It was hypocritical the moment we did it. I doubt Fergie and co could care less
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Old 19th July 2008, 08:59   #52 (permalink)
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The quotes and whether they were made up doesn't really matter if what Levy said neither the bottom is correct.

"Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the club's permission."

That's tapping up. If he has proof we'll face a charge of some sort as will Liverpool. It will probably just be a fine though as that's all Chelsea got for Colegate.
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Old 19th July 2008, 09:17   #53 (permalink)
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The quotes and whether they were made up doesn't really matter if what Levy said neither the bottom is correct.

"Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the club's permission."

That's tapping up. If he has proof we'll face a charge of some sort as will Liverpool. It will probably just be a fine though as that's all Chelsea got for Colegate.
We got a 3 point deduction suspended sentence (three years) after it was concluded Cole approached Chelsea (Arsenal wanted a 10 point immediate deduction).
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Old 19th July 2008, 09:56   #54 (permalink)
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Can't work this one out at all. We've made a bid and all Fergie's said is he's confident it'll go through. Bit of frivolous opportunism by Levy, here. Nonsense.
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Old 19th July 2008, 10:05   #55 (permalink)
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We've not even chased Berbatov ...
If you believe that you'll believe anything.

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I really think Mr Levy should look at his own record in the Transfer market. The man who looks around for clubs teetering on the edge of administration then buys their prize assets for a fraction of their true value. Remember Lennon from Leeds Dawson from forest defoe and carrick from West ham people in Glasshouse shouldn't throw stones.
This is irrelevant to Levy's statement. It's also nonsense, since Spurs operate like all clubs in a free market where any club could have bid for any of those players if they'd wanted to (or if their scouting network had been good enough) and all clubs are looking to get the best deal they can.

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Fergie just said that he wanted Berbatov and had made a bid if they dont accept it we wont speak to him thats the rules. ...
If they don't accept it? Levy's statement made it clear that Spurs had already told MUFC long ago that they were not interested in selling Berbatov.

Despite this, Fergie continued with his campaign, publicly saying that he was after Berbatov, was confident of getting him and that time was on his side. All the anger at Real Madrid's attempts to unsettle Ronaldo and prise him away is now shown to have been just a load of hypocritical guff.

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If Mr Levy is really so concerned for his club why doesn't he put his hands in his pockets a little further and build them a bigger ground ....
This is also irrelevant. It also shows that you're out of touch. Planning permission for a new stadium to be built immediately next door to WHL is expected this September.

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... Also why do you (Mr Levy) charge my brother £20 a ticket more to watch ... than Mr Glazer ... they easily have the fan base to fill a 60-70,000 stadium...
You've answered your own question: supply and demand. In any case, with a lower capacity stadium currently, Spurs need to charge more for tickets in order to compete financially with clubs that have bigger stadiums and so can sell more tickets.

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... Spurs should learn from us not berate us ....
Good luck with your massive debt. How long will it be before it hits the 1 billion pound mark? These chickens will come to roost eventually and when they do the MUFC fire-sale will begin.
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Considering what they did to Jol where they blatently tapped up a manager screw em.
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Old 19th July 2008, 10:50   #58 (permalink)
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Despite this, Fergie continued with his campaign, publicly saying that he was after Berbatov, was confident of getting him and that time was on his side. All the anger at Real Madrid's attempts to unsettle Ronaldo and prise him away is now shown to have been just a load of hypocritical guff.

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Still spewing this shit I see.

Where did Fergie publicly say all the above? Finally answer this question or else fuck off to COYS.

Did The Sun interview him to get the quotes that you and your chairman are clinging to?

Or did they just put them into an article without stating where they got them?
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Old 19th July 2008, 10:57   #59 (permalink)
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Despite this, Fergie continued with his campaign, publicly saying that he was after Berbatov, was confident of getting him and that time was on his side All the anger at Real Madrid's attempts to unsettle Ronaldo and prise him away is now shown to have been just a load of hypocritical guff.
Except... according to a very reliable source on another site, Fergie 100% did not make the comments attributed to him by the Sun newspaper, is furious about it, and the club are considering their response.

If Levy has made his comments based upon what the Sun made up, he is going to look a right fucking bell end.

I hope he can prove his allegations, and if he can't I would like to see Spurs docked points for wrongfully accusing another club of tapping up.
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Old 19th July 2008, 11:04   #60 (permalink)
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Still spewing this shit I see.

Where did Fergie publicly say all the above? Finally answer this question or else fuck off to COYS.

Did The Sun interview him to get the quotes that you and your chairman are clinging to?

Or did they just put them into an article without stating where they got them?
As I understand things, he didn't tell the Sun. From what others posters have said he made his comments in an interview he gave to a Norwegian MUFC fanclub website and the Sun picked it up from there. I've seen a link somewhere to the website concerned, but can't remember where.

If this is true, then I doubt if the people running the website would have invented his comments since they are MUFC fans. And they may well have recorded the interview on tape for all we know.
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Old 19th July 2008, 11:10   #61 (permalink)
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... If Levy has made his comments based upon what the Sun made up, he is going to look a right fucking bell end.
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The evidence of tapping up referred to in Levy's statement does not relate to Fergie's comments - those are merely arrogant attempts to further unsettle the player after Spurs had made it clear long before that they were not interested in selling Berbatov.

Levy would not make statements re. tapping up without being very sure of his facts. His evidence will be presented to the Prem. League and I'm sure it will be substantial and irrefutable.

If you think all this is just going to go away, you're wrong.
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Old 19th July 2008, 11:12   #62 (permalink)
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As I understand things, he didn't tell the Sun. From what others posters have said he made his comments in an interview he gave to a Norwegian MUFC fanclub website and the Sun picked it up from there. I've seen a link somewhere to the website concerned, but can't remember where.

If this is true, then I doubt if the people running the website would have invented his comments since they are MUFC fans. And they may well have recorded the interview on tape for all we know.

Fergie told some Norwegian United fans that United had made a bid for Berbatov!!!!

Didn't he know that Berbatov talks to Norwegian United fans all the time!!! Didn't he realise they might have told Berbatov United had bid for him thus forcing him to leave Spurs!!!!!!



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Old 19th July 2008, 11:13   #63 (permalink)
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There must be a tabloid journalist or two amongst our ranks on this site.

If so, can I please be allowed to say that I think your chosen career places you only slightly higher than rapists, murderers and child sex offenders in the moral heirarchy of the world.

That you get paid to deliberately lie and distort the truth with seemingly little in the way of punishment coming your way when you are caught doing so, is one of the great injustices in our modern society.

Do the world a favour and kill yourself, right now, you won't be missed and the world will be just a little bit brighter for your passing. You are nothing more than immoral, disgusting, twisted manipulators of the public conscience.

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Old 19th July 2008, 11:20   #64 (permalink)
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The evidence of tapping up referred to in Levy's statement does not relate to Fergie's comments - those are merely arrogant attempts to further unsettle the player after Spurs had made it clear long before that they were not interested in selling Berbatov.

Levy would not make statements re. tapping up without being very sure of his facts. His evidence will be presented to the Prem. League and I'm sure it will be substantial and irrefutable.

If you think all this is just going to go away, you're wrong.
On the contrary, I don't think it will just go away. You are, in my opinion, deluding yourself if you believe that any evidence will be produced which proves any tapping up has taken place.

Levy appears to be attempting to use his 'righteous anger' as a damage limitation tool with the Spurs fans in an attempt to convince you all that Spurs are reluctant victims of the big bullying Manchester United and Liverpool.

I've seen numerous quotes out od Spurs that they would sell Berbatov

(i) if he wants to go and...

(ii) if the right price is met.

So even if Ferguson said those things in the Sun (and I'm 99.9% sure he didn't) IF united have faxed a bid to Spurs, then Sir Alex is within his rights to say that we have bid for Berbatov and that he is confident a deal will be done (seeing as my points in (i) and (ii) have been made public a number of times)
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Old 19th July 2008, 11:29   #65 (permalink)
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So even if Ferguson said those things in the Sun (and I'm 99.9% sure he didn't) IF united have faxed a bid to Spurs, then Sir Alex is within his rights to say that we have bid for Berbatov and that he is confident a deal will be done (seeing as my points in (i) and (ii) have been made public a number of times)
Harry Redknapp mentioned a few players that he was interested in, yesterday. Levy's just posturing, and trying to show Spurs fans that they've been wronged. When the fact is they're about to sell their best two players. If anything Spur fans have to be asking themselves, why are our best two players moving on, despite the the tens of millions that have been spent over the last few years(more than £40m last summer).

They really are a no mark club, with the most deluded set of fans in the UK.
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He is guilty to a certain extent, these comments came after press reports that we had made a £20million for Berbatov - Fergie played smart but still crossed the line, we would be complaining if it was done to us.

As for Benitez with Keane, all clubs seem to get pissed off with the way Liverpool have unsettled players through the media - must be a typical Spanish trait.
It wouldn't be the first time Liverpool tapped up Keane. Houllier asked Gary McAllister (a former teammate of Keane) to ask him if he would like to sign for Liverpool in 2001.
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