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Brophs · 16th August 2008, 18:25

Just claimed Liverpool have the strongest squad, man for man, in the Premier League. And scousers complain when you call them delusional spacktards.

Red_Jamie · 16th August 2008, 18:27

I can't believe he said that with a straight face...

THE most fucking absurd comment i've ever heard

Alex · 16th August 2008, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by brophs

Just claimed Liverpool have the strongest squad, man for man, in the Premier League. And scousers complain when you call them delusional spacktards.

SATA · 16th August 2008, 18:28

It's ON.

charleysurf · 16th August 2008, 18:29

They have a very strong first XI on paper. But surely even the most deluded Liverpool fan would claim they have the strongest squad of 22.

Scholesy · 16th August 2008, 18:30

Lets all laugh at the Mac

Castolo · 16th August 2008, 18:30

He is usually a leavel-headed pundit when discussing anyone but Liverpool, then the Scouse delusion syndrome kicks in.

77 · 16th August 2008, 18:53

1 minute into the new season and the hunchback is diving already.... It's On!

Chorley1974 · 16th August 2008, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by brophs

Just claimed Liverpool have the strongest squad, man for man, in the Premier League. And scousers complain when you call them delusional spacktards.

Is he doing the punditry on Shitanta? Remember him last season, it was painful watching.

Brophs · 16th August 2008, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Chorley1974

Is he doing the punditry on Shitanta? Remember him last season, it was painful watching.

He is. And it still is.

samabachan · 16th August 2008, 19:28

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

They have a very strong first XI on paper. But surely even the most deluded Liverpool fan would claim they have the strongest squad of 22.

Torres - brilliant Keane - very good
Babel - meh Gerrard - Hollywood Mascherano - very good but angry, dirty idiot Kuyt - shite
Fatty Dossena- shite Hyypia - old Carragher - shite Arbeloa - meh
Reina - meh

I'd say that's the worst first XI of any of the Top 4 and their squad players are only marginally better than Arsenal's.

MUFCgal · 16th August 2008, 21:43

When you compare both teams's first 11 man for man, there's no way their squad is better or stronger than ours. The only player of theirs I'd take to improve ours is Torres, that's it.

Brwned · 16th August 2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

Torres - brilliant Keane - very good
Babel - meh Gerrard - Hollywood Mascherano - very good but angry, dirty idiot Kuyt - shite
Fatty Dossena- shite Hyypia - old Carragher - shite Arbeloa - meh
Reina - meh

I'd say that's the worst first XI of any of the Top 4 and their squad players are only marginally better than Arsenal's.

Gerrard or Keane will swap with Kuyt to play on the wing with Alonso in the middle I would think. And Agger or Skrtel will play ahead of Hyypa, and are very good defenders. Dossena isn't shite either, and Reina is very good.

Slightly biased don't you think?

samabachan · 16th August 2008, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

Gerrard or Keane will swap with Kuyt to play on the wing with Alonso in the middle I would think. And Agger or Skrtel will play ahead of Hyypa, and are very good defenders. Dossena isn't shite either, and Reina is very good.

Slightly biased don't you think?

I'm going to hazard a guess you didn't watch their game against Sunderland then?

Pogue Mahone · 16th August 2008, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Gerrard or Keane will swap with Kuyt to play on the wing with Alonso in the middle I would think. And Agger or Skrtel will play ahead of Hyypa, and are very good defenders. Dossena isn't shite either, and Reina is very good.

Slightly biased don't you think?

You're saying they don't have the worst XI of the big four?

I mean, they're not even close.

Brwned · 16th August 2008, 22:29

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Originally Posted by samabachan

I'm going to hazard a guess you didn't watch their game against Sunderland then?

I did yeah, they were absolutely awful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

You're saying they don't have the worst XI of the big four?

I mean, they're not even close.

They do have the worst team of the big four, but their team is fairly close in terms of quality to Arsenal's imo. Arsenal have the much better manager though, which makes an almighty difference.

FlawlessThaw · 16th August 2008, 23:15

Hypothetically if you had to pick which squad you thought is better; who'd it be?

Arsenals or Liverpools?

Brwned · 16th August 2008, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

Hypothetically if you had to pick which squad you thought is better; who'd it be?

Arsenals or Liverpools?

Arsenal just edge it because I think Van Persie and Adebayor are currently the better partnership than Keane and Torres.

Striker10 · 16th August 2008, 23:28

sorry but the odd player aside liverpool have the shitest squad by quite a bit. No great wingers, so-so backup. Average fullbacks who don't really offer an attacking threat. A midfield that's functional rather then dynamic. Gerrard sure - but he's played all over the shop most of the time.

Chelsea
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool

Though it has to be said I wouldn't swap a lot of ours for chelsea's - with exceptions like essien, drogba AND drogba aside ...in terms of strikers they're not that convincing.

Anelka blows hot and cold, Shevchenko is about as cold as you can get.

McManaman is dreaming

I_live_cement · 16th August 2008, 23:31

Our first 11 is the strongest, but Chelsea probably have the strongest squad. Liverpool are nowhere near.

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 01:15

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Originally Posted by Brwned

I did yeah, they were absolutely awful.

That's not what I was talking about so much as how meh Reina was, how they played a 442 with Gerrard in centre mid, how shit Dossena was etc which you were arguing against. Benitez also said in his interview that Keane would be playing as a second striker not right wing or whatever.

B Cantona · 17th August 2008, 01:19

Liverpools first eleven is very good, and is capable of challenging for the title. But their squad is weak relative to the other top sides (perhaps excluding Arsenal currently)

The Setanta pundit coverage is dreadful. They also managed to talk with a straight face, declaring the Scouse have clearly concentrated on Europe in recent years, and this year they'll turn their attentions to the league. Erm, no Sherwood and Mcmanamanamanawank, they concentrate on the league they've craved but haven't won for nearly two decades, fall woefully short, then rest their players in the league and progress in Europe...

So, in conclusion... IT'S ON

You can set your watch by the Scouse boom-bust cycle

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 01:27

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Originally Posted by samabachan

That's not what I was talking about so much as how meh Reina was, how they played a 442 with Gerrard in centre mid, how shit Dossena was etc which you were arguing against. Benitez also said in his interview that Keane would be playing as a second striker not right wing or whatever.

Dossena was bad, but so was Evra against City. It's stupid to judge players in their first match. They played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard in centre mid because Alonso had a slight injury and Mascherano isn't there, so that doesn't really give much away on what his selections will be like. And how was Reina 'meh'?

He had one shot to save and did so.

And the comment about Keane only makes me think even more so that Gerrard will play on the wings a lot this season.

Alex · 17th August 2008, 01:33

They looked awful today, their squad depth is awful. Torres is pure class though, and will win them some close games this year like today. But Gerrard is awful in a two man midfield. The only place for him now is on the right wing, a place where he is less effective than in the hole behind Torres. I dont see why they signed Keane, they should have kept Crouch and spent their entire kitty on a player like Ashley Young, Mancini, or Silva, then they would be much more balanced, as it is now they arent and they have no where near the squad depth that United or Chelsea do

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 01:38

Torres - 10 Keane - 8
babel - 7 Gerrard - 8 Mascherano - 8 Kuyt - 5
Dossena - 5 Hyypia - 6 Carragher - 6 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 7

Average = 7.36

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9
Nasri - 8? Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 6 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 10 Gallas - 9 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9
Almunia - 6

Average = 8.09

Drogba - 9
Cole - 8 Deco - 9 Kalou - 7
Ballack - 10 Essien - 10
Cole - 9 Carvalho - 10 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - ?Let's say 8
Cech - 9

Average = 8.82 though it could be lower as I've no knowledge of Bosingwa whatsoever.

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9
Nani - 8 Scholes - 9 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 10 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8
VDS - 9

Average = 9

At least that's my reckoning. Obviously likely to be biased but there you go. A significant difference and if anyone would care to do their own amendments I'd be interested.

Alex · 17th August 2008, 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

Torres - 10 Keane - 8
babel - 7 Gerrard - 8 Mascherano - 8 Kuyt - 5
Dossena - 5 Hyypia - 6 Carragher - 6 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 7

Average = 7.36

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9
Nasri - 8? Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 6 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 10 Gallas - 9 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9
Almunia - 6

Average = 8.09

Drogba - 9
Cole - 8 Deco - 9 Kalou - 7
Ballack - 10 Essien - 10
Cole - 9 Carvalho - 10 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - ?Let's say 8
Cech - 9

Average = 8.82 though it could be lower as I've no knowledge of Bosingwa whatsoever.

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9
Nani - 8 Scholes - 9 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 10 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8
VDS - 9

Average = 9

At least that's my reckoning. Obviously likely to be biased but there you go. A significant difference and if anyone would care to do their own amendments I'd be interested.

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

Dossena was bad, but so was Evra against City. It's stupid to judge players in their first match. They played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard in centre mid because Alonso had a slight injury and Mascherano isn't there, so that doesn't really give much away on what his selections will be like. And how was Reina 'meh'?

He had one shot to save and did so.

And the comment about Keane only makes me think even more so that Gerrard will play on the wings a lot this season.

For a goalkeeper whose distribution is supposedly one of his best attributes it wasn't half bad. Gerrard may well start on the right but it's clear Benitez doesn't trust Alonso much as what the fuck was Plessis starting for?

I think it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Evra would probably come good as he needed a proper preseason with us and had already shown his class in the Champions League with Monaco. Dossena is not so obvious. He's had a full preseason and he's a fat, 26 year old no mark who has been awful in every game he's played for Liverpool.

Count Duckula · 17th August 2008, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

Torres - 10 Keane - 8
babel - 7 Gerrard - 8 Mascherano - 8 Kuyt - 5
Dossena - 5 Hyypia - 6 Carragher - 6 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 7

Average = 7.36

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9
Nasri - 8? Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 6 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 10 Gallas - 9 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9
Almunia - 6

Average = 8.09

Drogba - 9
Cole - 8 Deco - 9 Kalou - 7
Ballack - 10 Essien - 10
Cole - 9 Carvalho - 10 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - ?Let's say 8
Cech - 9

Average = 8.82 though it could be lower as I've no knowledge of Bosingwa whatsoever.

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9
Nani - 8 Scholes - 9 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 10 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8
VDS - 9

Average = 9

At least that's my reckoning. Obviously likely to be biased but there you go. A significant difference and if anyone would care to do their own amendments I'd be interested.

I'd reckon that Evra, despite being Superman, probably isn't a better than Fabregas or Scholes

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

At least that's my reckoning. Obviously likely to be biased but there you go. A significant difference and if anyone would care to do their own amendments I'd be interested.

Torres - 10 Keane - 8
Babel - 7 Mascherano - 8 Alonso - 8 Gerrard - 9
Dossena - 7 Agger - 8 Skrtel - 8 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 8

Average = 7.8

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9
Nasri - 8 Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 7 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 9 Gallas - 8 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9
Almunia - 6

Average = 8.1

Drogba - 9 Cole - 8
Deco - 9 Lampard - 9
Ballack - 10 Essien - 10
Cole - 9 Carvalho - 9 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - 8
Cech - 9

Average = 8.9

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9
Nani - 8 Scholes - 8 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 9 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8
VDS - 9

Average = 9

IBleedRed · 17th August 2008, 01:55

FFS they could barely beat keano's kids

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Duckula

I'd reckon that Evra, despite being Superman, probably isn't a better than Fabregas or Scholes

Maybe not but he's probably a better left back.

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

For a goalkeeper whose distribution is supposedly one of his best attributes it wasn't half bad. Gerrard may well start on the right but it's clear Benitez doesn't trust Alonso much as what the fuck was Plessis starting for?

I think it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Evra would probably come good as he needed a proper preseason with us and had already shown his class in the Champions League with Monaco. Dossena is not so obvious. He's had a full preseason and he's a fat, 26 year old no mark who has been awful in every game he's played for Liverpool.

RE: Alonso: "We have a few minor injuries, bruises, and so on. Xabi Alonso and Yossi Benayoun have got some small problems but they will be okay for the game in Sunderland."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...987790,00.html

Clearly Alonso didn't recover fro the knock well enough in time so was only put on the bench, as even Benitez knows he is a much better player than Plessis.

It's easy to say in hindsight about Evra but if you type in the name Evra in the Manchester United forum and take a look at the first few threads you won't see many people saying he will come good and had "already shown his class in the Champions League with Monaco". There were plenty of doubters.

Don't judge Dossena yet.

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

RE: Alonso: "We have a few minor injuries, bruises, and so on. Xabi Alonso and Yossi Benayoun have got some small problems but they will be okay for the game in Sunderland."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...987790,00.html

Clearly Alonso didn't recover fro the knock well enough in time so was only put on the bench, as even Benitez knows he is a much better player than Plessis.

It's easy to say in hindsight about Evra but if you type in the name Evra in the Manchester United forum and take a look at the first few threads you won't see many people saying he will come good and had "already shown his class in the Champions League with Monaco". There were plenty of doubters.

Don't judge Dossena yet.

Indeed but you won't find my name among them. There are an awful lot of spackers on the Caf especially in matchday threads. I apologize for the Alonso thing I didn't realize Benitez was just being arrogant.

rimaldo · 17th August 2008, 02:03

curly haired buffoon in talking nonsense shocker.

Cal? · 17th August 2008, 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

Torres - 10 Keane - 8
Babel - 7 Mascherano - 8 Alonso - 8 Gerrard - 9
Dossena - 7 Agger - 8 Skrtel - 8 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 8

Average = 7.8

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9
Nasri - 8 Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 7 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 9 Gallas - 8 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9
Almunia - 6

Average = 8.1

Drogba - 9 Cole - 8
Deco - 9 Lampard - 9
Ballack - 10 Essien - 10
Cole - 9 Carvalho - 9 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - 8
Cech - 9

Average = 8.9

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9
Nani - 8 Scholes - 8 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 9 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8
VDS - 9

Average = 9

Ronaldo deserves 11 on that rating, or nobody else deserves 10.

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

Indeed but you won't find my name among them. There are an awful lot of spackers on the Caf especially in matchday threads. I apologize for the Alonso thing I didn't realize Benitez was just being arrogant.

I'm sure I won't find your name there. But the fact still stands that even though the threads about saying he was an awful buy and we should sell him etc were all stupid knee jerk reactions, everyone had their doubts about him. Dossena hasn't looked great but to give him a 5 after 3 or 4 matches seems wrong.

Benitez was being arrogant?

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal?

Ronaldo deserves 11 on that rating, or nobody else deserves 10.

I actually just took Samabachan's ratings and changed them a bit. I would have gave Torres 9.5 and Ronaldo ten. Everyone else would be 9 or lower.

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

I'm sure I won't find your name there. But the fact still stands that even though the threads about saying he was an awful buy and we should sell him etc were all stupid knee jerk reactions, everyone had their doubts about him. Dossena hasn't looked great but to give him a 5 after 3 or 4 matches seems wrong.

Benitez was being arrogant?

He thought he could get away with playing Plessis because it was only Sunderland so he did even though Alonso was clearly fit enough to play.

I bet you lots of hypothetical money that Dossena turns out to be a shit buy. Never be more than a 7/10 barring performance enhancing chemicals intervening.

samabachan · 17th August 2008, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwned

I actually just took Samabachan's ratings and changed them a bit. I would have gave Torres 9.5 and Ronaldo ten. Everyone else would be 9 or lower.

Rio wouldn't get a 10 but Torres would get a 9.5? Madness.

Brwned · 17th August 2008, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by samabachan

Rio wouldn't get a 10 but Torres would get a 9.5? Madness.

Rio would get a 9.5 too. This would be what it's like:

Torres - 9.5 Keane - 8
Babel - 7 Mascherano - 8 Alonso - 8 Gerrard - 8.5
Dossena - 7 Agger - 8 Skrtel - 8 Arbeloa - 7
Reina - 8

Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 8
Nasri - 7.5 Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 7 Walcott - 7
Clichy - 8.5 Gallas - 8 Toure - 7 Sagna - 8.5
Almunia - 7

Drogba - 9 Cole - 8
Deco - 8.5 Lampard - 9
Ballack - 8.5 Essien - 9
Cole - 8 Carvalho - 9 Terry - 8.5 Bosingwa - 8
Cech - 8.5

Rooney - 9 Tevez - 8.5
Nani - 8 Scholes - 8 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10
Evra - 8.5 Vidic - 9 Rio - 9.5 Brown - 8
VDS - 8.5

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16th August 2008, 18:27	#2 (permalink)
Red_Jamie Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,838	I can't believe he said that with a straight face... THE most fucking absurd comment i've ever heard

16th August 2008, 18:28	#4 (permalink)
SATA Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: We all love United Posts: 4,099	It's ON.

16th August 2008, 18:29	#5 (permalink)
charleysurf Talks sense Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,249	They have a very strong first XI on paper. But surely even the most deluded Liverpool fan would claim they have the strongest squad of 22.

16th August 2008, 18:30	#6 (permalink)
Scholesy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 'And Solskjær has won it' Posts: 9,484	Lets all laugh at the Mac

16th August 2008, 18:30	#7 (permalink)
Castolo Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,363	He is usually a leavel-headed pundit when discussing anyone but Liverpool, then the Scouse delusion syndrome kicks in.

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77 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: http://youtu.be/BGVSTsgcCvw Posts: 14,490	1 minute into the new season and the hunchback is diving already.... It's On!

16th August 2008, 21:43	#12 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 16,677	When you compare both teams's first 11 man for man, there's no way their squad is better or stronger than ours. The only player of theirs I'd take to improve ours is Torres, that's it.

16th August 2008, 23:15	#17 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 18,228	Hypothetically if you had to pick which squad you thought is better; who'd it be? Arsenals or Liverpools?

16th August 2008, 23:28	#19 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 13,086	sorry but the odd player aside liverpool have the shitest squad by quite a bit. No great wingers, so-so backup. Average fullbacks who don't really offer an attacking threat. A midfield that's functional rather then dynamic. Gerrard sure - but he's played all over the shop most of the time. Chelsea Manchester United Arsenal Liverpool Though it has to be said I wouldn't swap a lot of ours for chelsea's - with exceptions like essien, drogba AND drogba aside ...in terms of strikers they're not that convincing. Anelka blows hot and cold, Shevchenko is about as cold as you can get. McManaman is dreaming

16th August 2008, 23:31	#20 (permalink)
I_live_cement Cat freak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North West Posts: 13,591	Our first 11 is the strongest, but Chelsea probably have the strongest squad. Liverpool are nowhere near.

17th August 2008, 01:19	#22 (permalink)
B Cantona Desperate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hated, Adored, Never Ignored Posts: 40,401	Liverpools first eleven is very good, and is capable of challenging for the title. But their squad is weak relative to the other top sides (perhaps excluding Arsenal currently) The Setanta pundit coverage is dreadful. They also managed to talk with a straight face, declaring the Scouse have clearly concentrated on Europe in recent years, and this year they'll turn their attentions to the league. Erm, no Sherwood and Mcmanamanamanawank, they concentrate on the league they've craved but haven't won for nearly two decades, fall woefully short, then rest their players in the league and progress in Europe... So, in conclusion... IT'S ON You can set your watch by the Scouse boom-bust cycle

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Alex Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ____ Posts: 42,243	They looked awful today, their squad depth is awful. Torres is pure class though, and will win them some close games this year like today. But Gerrard is awful in a two man midfield. The only place for him now is on the right wing, a place where he is less effective than in the hole behind Torres. I dont see why they signed Keane, they should have kept Crouch and spent their entire kitty on a player like Ashley Young, Mancini, or Silva, then they would be much more balanced, as it is now they arent and they have no where near the squad depth that United or Chelsea do

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samabachan First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Football is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom Posts: 9,287	Torres - 10 Keane - 8 babel - 7 Gerrard - 8 Mascherano - 8 Kuyt - 5 Dossena - 5 Hyypia - 6 Carragher - 6 Arbeloa - 7 Reina - 7 Average = 7.36 Adebayor - 9 Van Persie - 9 Nasri - 8? Fabregas - 9 Denilson - 6 Walcott - 7 Clichy - 10 Gallas - 9 Toure - 7 Sagna - 9 Almunia - 6 Average = 8.09 Drogba - 9 Cole - 8 Deco - 9 Kalou - 7 Ballack - 10 Essien - 10 Cole - 9 Carvalho - 10 Terry - 8 Bosingwa - ?Let's say 8 Cech - 9 Average = 8.82 though it could be lower as I've no knowledge of Bosingwa whatsoever. Rooney - 9 Tevez - 9 Nani - 8 Scholes - 9 Carrick - 8 Ronaldo - 10 Evra - 10 Vidic - 9 Rio - 10 Brown - 8 VDS - 9 Average = 9 At least that's my reckoning. Obviously likely to be biased but there you go. A significant difference and if anyone would care to do their own amendments I'd be interested.

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IBleedRed likes to use pantyhose Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ander's Doppelganger Posts: 5,818	FFS they could barely beat keano's kids

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rimaldo the caf's loveable funny guy who suffers from hoofdaphobia Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: this is like a game of chest Posts: 23,892	curly haired buffoon in talking nonsense shocker.