Steven Gerrard

antihenry · 14th December 2009, 20:41

His ridiculous diving aside, Gerrard is a great player, easily one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Would probably walk into most teams in the world and will be a key player for England's success in the upcoming WC.

Having said all that, he'll turn 30 at the end of this season and Liverpool look like the club in turmoil at the moment. It's a well documented fact that he was approached by Chelsea on two different occasions in the past and at one point was seriously tempted to switch sides which prompted the Anfield faithful to engage in shirt burning rituals and death threats to his family.Stevie then decided at the last moment to stick with his hometown club in hope that they will improve enough to bring the coveted #19 home within the next few years.

That was July 2005 with the CL win still fresh in everybody's memory. Now, over four years later and with only 2006 FA Cup win added to his resume I wonder if his plans may have changed. 30 is a serious age for a footballer, the body is getting on a bit, injuries happen more often and before you know it it's over.

I think this season's end will be the time for Gerrard to make a choice. Unless Liverpool are taken over in a City like fashion by some oil sheik and invest heavily in improving the squad, they're likely to continue to struggle. With an emergence of City's fortune plus Tottenham and Villa getting into the mix, even finishing in the top four is no longer a guarantee, as for title aspirations, they're gone already.Benitez lives on a borrowed time and the team needs a new manager with new ideas and new players and without an instant and massive investment who knows how long it will take for a new man to get the club back to the top.

Will Gerrard stay or will he move? He won't come to United for obvious reasons and Chelsea affair is a thing of the past for both parties involved.

City is an emerging force and can afford pretty much anybody. Will he?

Red Pavan · 14th December 2009, 20:45

If Liverpool fail to qualify for the Champions League then there is every chance that both of Torres and Gerrard will leave. Both to Citeh? Could happen.

Oh and i can't believe you wrote that much about Gerrard's ability.

Sam#1 · 14th December 2009, 20:45

He'll stay at Liverpool till he retires. Whether or not he wins anything there is a different matter.

Crerand Legend · 14th December 2009, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

He'll stay at Liverpool till he retires. Whether or not he wins anything there is a different matter.

I think he will see it out now, Torres is a different matter

rednev · 14th December 2009, 20:51

He's been very poor this season. Whether that's down to age or just a bad spell of a form, I don't know, but those who say he relies on the physical side of his game too heavily to be able to go on playing into his 30s at a high level may have a point.

I don't think it'd be worth it for Chelsea to go after him. They have three world class CMs as it is, and are not short of attacking options. The amount of money it would take to get Liverpool to release him probably won't be good value for Chelsea, because they just don't know what they would be getting out of him next season (unlike the saga 4 or 5 years ago, when everyone knew that he would have been brilliant). City might fancy it, but he'd have a job trying to justify such a move without admitting he's doing it solely for the money.

I think he'll stay out his career at Liverpool. 3 or 4 more miserable years maybe.

MUFCgal · 14th December 2009, 20:59

He must be having doubts again in his mind, the same doubts he had 4-5 years ago when he was seriously tempted by Chelsea. I honestly can't see either of them going down that path again. He'll never come to us and I don't see him going to City either. If he does indeed leave (and that's a big if), then I can see him leaving the PL altogether and going abroad. Of course, he might stay with Liverpool until he hangs up his boots but does he want to risk another a few seasons potentially without a league title and Liverpool in dire straights? I think we'll just wait and see, Torres though is completely different. If Liverpool fail to get a CL spot this season and if they fail again to put a fight for the title next season, then he'll be away.

moses · 14th December 2009, 21:01

Personally I think Gerrard to City is a rumour worth starting.

FlawlessThaw · 14th December 2009, 21:01

I don't see him leaving, he's reached thirty and I can see his level of performances declining in the same way Keane did after he turned 30 odd. Don't think he will go to City or Chelsea and so if he does leave it will probably to Madrid where he will get shunted out wide as a sort of right winger/cover Ramos's arse when he goes forward.

prateik · 14th December 2009, 21:03

think he will end his career at liverpool , unless the owners need money in which case he might have a good enough excuse to try his luck elsewhere

dont think torres will leave at the end of the season either , irrespective of where liverpool finish

Crustanoid · 14th December 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

He'll stay at Liverpool till he retires. Whether or not he wins anything there is a different matter.

Hopefully he'll do a Shearer and retire after winning fuck all, become their manager and relegate them

VoetbalWizard · 14th December 2009, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Crustanoid

Hopefully he'll do a Shearer and retire after winning fuck all, become their manager and relegate them

best thing i've read all day.

Scholesy · 14th December 2009, 22:04

He is going to age badly.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 15th December 2009, 06:10

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Originally Posted by antihenry

His ridiculous diving aside, Gerrard is a great player, easily one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Would probably walk into most teams in the world and will be a key player for England's success in the upcoming WC.

Having said all that, he'll turn 30 at the end of this season and Liverpool look like the club in turmoil at the moment. It's a well documented fact that he was approached by Chelsea on two different occasions in the past and at one point was seriously tempted to switch sides which prompted the Anfield faithful to engage in shirt burning rituals and death threats to his family.Stevie then decided at the last moment to stick with his hometown club in hope that they will improve enough to bring the coveted #19 home within the next few years.

That was July 2005 with the CL win still fresh in everybody's memory. Now, over four years later and with only 2006 FA Cup win added to his resume I wonder if his plans may have changed. 30 is a serious age for a footballer, the body is getting on a bit, injuries happen more often and before you know it it's over.

I think this season's end will be the time for Gerrard to make a choice. Unless Liverpool are taken over in a City like fashion by some oil sheik and invest heavily in improving the squad, they're likely to continue to struggle. With an emergence of City's fortune plus Tottenham and Villa getting into the mix, even finishing in the top four is no longer a guarantee, as for title aspirations, they're gone already.Benitez lives on a borrowed time and the team needs a new manager with new ideas and new players and without an instant and massive investment who knows how long it will take for a new man to get the club back to the top.

Will Gerrard stay or will he move? He won't come to United for obvious reasons and Chelsea affair is a thing of the past for both parties involved.

City is an emerging force and can afford pretty much anybody. Will he?

He wont. He just threatened to go to Chelsea to hold Liverpool to ransom. The prick.

Wittmann45 · 15th December 2009, 06:19

I could see Torres going back to Spain

Dumpstar · 15th December 2009, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He wont. He just threatened to go to Chelsea to hold Liverpool to ransom. The prick.

As Daniel son was taught:

Hard on, hard off.

sammsky1 · 15th December 2009, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Wittmann45

I could see Torres going back to Spain

I could actually see him doing well in Italy in his 30s. Could join AC Milan and get anothet 5 or so years out of his career. He would do well there.

Team Brian GB · 15th December 2009, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He wont. He just threatened to go to Chelsea to hold Liverpool to ransom. The prick.

Says you.

Anderson Searl · 15th December 2009, 22:34

City is the spot.

Red4Ever · 15th December 2009, 22:41

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

best thing i've read all day.

Best thing i've read all year

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 15th December 2009, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Team Brian GB

Says you.

Think want you want. you know I'm right regardless.

peterstorey · 16th December 2009, 00:20

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Originally Posted by sammsky1

I could actually see him doing well in Italy in his 30s. Could join AC Milan and get anothet 5 or so years out of his career. He would do well there.

Eh lah, das like a furrin country.

sammsky1 · 16th December 2009, 00:24

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Eh lah, das like a furrin country.

fatboy · 16th December 2009, 02:06

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Originally Posted by Scholesy

He is going to age badly.

Yep. He relies a lot of his physical prowess, not sure if he can "re-invent" himself the way Giggs has done once he loses his pace. If he can't he'll have no more than 1 or 2 good seasons left. He might be tempted to move soon. I see Torres staying for a fair bit longer, unfortunately.

Nistelrooy10 · 16th December 2009, 02:51

Do you guys think that Torres and Reina would stay if Rafa gets the sack, say, one month from now, and they don't even make it into top 4 by the end of the season? Are they really his favorite boyhood club or is that bs?

antihenry · 16th December 2009, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Nistelrooy10

Do you guys think that Torres and Reina would stay if Rafa gets the sack, say, one month from now, and they don't even make it into top 4 by the end of the season? Are they really his favorite boyhood club or is that bs?

I think having Benitez there was a big reason why Torres joined Liverpool. If Rafa gets the boot and things don't improve dramatically anytime soon I don't see what would keep Torres,Reina or Mascherano for that matter at Merseyside.

The Physio · 16th December 2009, 22:18

I think Torres will stay there for a long time.

I think the same of Benitez.

And there's no chance of Gerrard leaving them at this stage.

charlenefan · 16th December 2009, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam#1

He'll stay at Liverpool till he retires. Whether or not he wins anything there is a different matter.

This

Oh and a strange time to be praising Gerrard after he's been shite all season

The Physio · 16th December 2009, 22:22

Yeah I thought that the thread was going to be about how he's winding down his career. Instead it's about whether he should move to a bigger club. It's getting dropped he should be worried about, if they were any good he'd have to fight for his place.

Crustanoid · 16th December 2009, 22:56

It depends where Benitez ends up as to where Torres goes. If he goes to City, you might see Torres switching to them. He wouldn;t follow him to Real, as he is an Atletico product, and besides Benitez would only last 6 months there

antihenry · 17th December 2009, 00:29

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Originally Posted by fearghal

Yeah I thought that the thread was going to be about how he's winding down his career. Instead it's about whether he should move to a bigger club. It's getting dropped he should be worried about, if they were any good he'd have to fight for his place.

As shit as Liverpool are at the moment, Gerrard is still a top player and would be a starter for pretty much any team in Europe, except maybe Barca.

Ronaldo No.9 · 8th March 2010, 22:19

Been utter shite this season, Love it!

Boss · 8th March 2010, 22:21

Masherano has been their best player

green demon · 8th March 2010, 22:24

I couldn't believe it when he was booked for a scissor foul, the commentaters were feeling sorry for him - and then the caption came up saying it was his first booking of the season. How did he manage that? He should have had many with all the diving and studs up tackles he does.

djemba's arse · 8th March 2010, 22:27

Great player perhaps, but not a great central midfielder.

R_Nick · 8th March 2010, 22:54

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Originally Posted by green demon

I couldn't believe it when he was booked for a scissor foul, the commentaters were feeling sorry for him - and then the caption came up saying it was his first booking of the season. How did he manage that? He should have had many with all the diving and studs up tackles he does.

Not to mention him giving the V's to the ref after receiving his yellow. Classy bloke ain't he.

Solius · 8th March 2010, 22:57

He's really had a terrible season. Doesn't look half the player he is capable of being.

MUFCgal · 8th March 2010, 23:03

He geniunely looks uninterested this season. After their 'heroics' of last season, they were all bigging themselves up for this season, this was supposed to be their season, like really their season this time.

It hasn't gone to plan, so it's plainly obvious to see he's pissed off.

Allforone · 8th March 2010, 23:05

Passed his best....injuries and having to carry that abysmal shower for years have taken its toll on the bloke, maybe a new challenge is what he needs to find himself again because hes going backwards at a serious rate of knots at that club.

Hes no spring chicken anymore either, best days are behind him i think.

Chorley1974 · 8th March 2010, 23:05

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Originally Posted by R_Nick

Not to mention him giving the V's to the ref after receiving his yellow. Classy bloke ain't he.

I was amazed he got away with that.

Rooney24 · 8th March 2010, 23:11

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Originally Posted by R_Nick

Not to mention him giving the V's to the ref after receiving his yellow. Classy bloke ain't he.

Yeah, I thought I was imagining that as my flatmates didnt catch it....

14th December 2009, 20:41	#1 (permalink)
antihenry Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blue Heaven Posts: 2,856	Steven Gerrard <a href="http://d.mediadakine.com/ck.php?n=ad232b97&cb=17646" target="_blank"><img src="http://d.mediadakine.com/avw.php?zoneid=81&cb=17646&n=ad232b97" border="0" alt="" /></a> His ridiculous diving aside, Gerrard is a great player, easily one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Would probably walk into most teams in the world and will be a key player for England's success in the upcoming WC. Having said all that, he'll turn 30 at the end of this season and Liverpool look like the club in turmoil at the moment. It's a well documented fact that he was approached by Chelsea on two different occasions in the past and at one point was seriously tempted to switch sides which prompted the Anfield faithful to engage in shirt burning rituals and death threats to his family.Stevie then decided at the last moment to stick with his hometown club in hope that they will improve enough to bring the coveted #19 home within the next few years. That was July 2005 with the CL win still fresh in everybody's memory. Now, over four years later and with only 2006 FA Cup win added to his resume I wonder if his plans may have changed. 30 is a serious age for a footballer, the body is getting on a bit, injuries happen more often and before you know it it's over. I think this season's end will be the time for Gerrard to make a choice. Unless Liverpool are taken over in a City like fashion by some oil sheik and invest heavily in improving the squad, they're likely to continue to struggle. With an emergence of City's fortune plus Tottenham and Villa getting into the mix, even finishing in the top four is no longer a guarantee, as for title aspirations, they're gone already.Benitez lives on a borrowed time and the team needs a new manager with new ideas and new players and without an instant and massive investment who knows how long it will take for a new man to get the club back to the top. Will Gerrard stay or will he move? He won't come to United for obvious reasons and Chelsea affair is a thing of the past for both parties involved. City is an emerging force and can afford pretty much anybody. Will he?

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14th December 2009, 20:45	#2 (permalink)
Red Pavan shittest username ever manutddabest791 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK - Ronaldo's House. Posts: 9,032	If Liverpool fail to qualify for the Champions League then there is every chance that both of Torres and Gerrard will leave. Both to Citeh? Could happen. Oh and i can't believe you wrote that much about Gerrard's ability.

14th December 2009, 20:45	#3 (permalink)
Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 'I'm a genius muthafuckin' voice of a generation' Posts: 17,223	He'll stay at Liverpool till he retires. Whether or not he wins anything there is a different matter.

14th December 2009, 20:51	#5 (permalink)
rednev First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Wales Posts: 14,090	He's been very poor this season. Whether that's down to age or just a bad spell of a form, I don't know, but those who say he relies on the physical side of his game too heavily to be able to go on playing into his 30s at a high level may have a point. I don't think it'd be worth it for Chelsea to go after him. They have three world class CMs as it is, and are not short of attacking options. The amount of money it would take to get Liverpool to release him probably won't be good value for Chelsea, because they just don't know what they would be getting out of him next season (unlike the saga 4 or 5 years ago, when everyone knew that he would have been brilliant). City might fancy it, but he'd have a job trying to justify such a move without admitting he's doing it solely for the money. I think he'll stay out his career at Liverpool. 3 or 4 more miserable years maybe.

14th December 2009, 20:59	#6 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 12,006	He must be having doubts again in his mind, the same doubts he had 4-5 years ago when he was seriously tempted by Chelsea. I honestly can't see either of them going down that path again. He'll never come to us and I don't see him going to City either. If he does indeed leave (and that's a big if), then I can see him leaving the PL altogether and going abroad. Of course, he might stay with Liverpool until he hangs up his boots but does he want to risk another a few seasons potentially without a league title and Liverpool in dire straights? I think we'll just wait and see, Torres though is completely different. If Liverpool fail to get a CL spot this season and if they fail again to put a fight for the title next season, then he'll be away.

14th December 2009, 21:01	#7 (permalink)
moses thinking about mount olive Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: my amn keyboar is broken Posts: 15,099	Personally I think Gerrard to City is a rumour worth starting.

14th December 2009, 21:01	#8 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 17,151	I don't see him leaving, he's reached thirty and I can see his level of performances declining in the same way Keane did after he turned 30 odd. Don't think he will go to City or Chelsea and so if he does leave it will probably to Madrid where he will get shunted out wide as a sort of right winger/cover Ramos's arse when he goes forward.

14th December 2009, 21:03	#9 (permalink)
prateik First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 8,130	think he will end his career at liverpool , unless the owners need money in which case he might have a good enough excuse to try his luck elsewhere dont think torres will leave at the end of the season either , irrespective of where liverpool finish

14th December 2009, 22:04	#12 (permalink)
Scholesy biggest idiotic gay in the global village Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 'And Solskjaer has won it' Posts: 7,771	He is going to age badly.

15th December 2009, 06:19	#14 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 3,068	I could see Torres going back to Spain

15th December 2009, 22:34	#18 (permalink)
Anderson Searl Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: :lol: Posts: 16,435	City is the spot.

16th December 2009, 02:51	#24 (permalink)
Nistelrooy10 First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,998	Do you guys think that Torres and Reina would stay if Rafa gets the sack, say, one month from now, and they don't even make it into top 4 by the end of the season? Are they really his favorite boyhood club or is that bs?

16th December 2009, 22:18	#26 (permalink)
The Physio Fearghal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,073	I think Torres will stay there for a long time. I think the same of Benitez. And there's no chance of Gerrard leaving them at this stage.

16th December 2009, 22:22	#28 (permalink)
The Physio Fearghal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,073	Yeah I thought that the thread was going to be about how he's winding down his career. Instead it's about whether he should move to a bigger club. It's getting dropped he should be worried about, if they were any good he'd have to fight for his place.

16th December 2009, 22:56	#29 (permalink)
Crustanoid First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the dark, where all the fevers grow. Under the water, where the shark bubbles blow Posts: 8,128	It depends where Benitez ends up as to where Torres goes. If he goes to City, you might see Torres switching to them. He wouldn;t follow him to Real, as he is an Atletico product, and besides Benitez would only last 6 months there

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Ronaldo No.9 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: ''He made me suffer agonies on the pitch'' Alessandro Nesta on The Phenomenon Posts: 3,337	Been utter shite this season, Love it!

8th March 2010, 22:21	#32 (permalink)
Boss First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jump up in the sky and put the stars into alignment Posts: 12,957	Masherano has been their best player

8th March 2010, 22:24	#33 (permalink)
green demon Caf Nostradamous 2008 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: I wouldn't sell that Mob a virus for less than 80 million. Posts: 7,181	I couldn't believe it when he was booked for a scissor foul, the commentaters were feeling sorry for him - and then the caption came up saying it was his first booking of the season. How did he manage that? He should have had many with all the diving and studs up tackles he does.

8th March 2010, 22:27	#34 (permalink)
djemba's arse Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Trophy Room Funny Posts: 2 Posts: 2,663	Great player perhaps, but not a great central midfielder.

8th March 2010, 22:57	#36 (permalink)
Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The leaders of the free world are just little boys throwing stones. Posts: 27,204	He's really had a terrible season. Doesn't look half the player he is capable of being.

8th March 2010, 23:03	#37 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 12,006	He geniunely looks uninterested this season. After their 'heroics' of last season, they were all bigging themselves up for this season, this was supposed to be their season, like really their season this time. It hasn't gone to plan, so it's plainly obvious to see he's pissed off.

8th March 2010, 23:05	#38 (permalink)
Allforone First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Javier Hernandez...All the talent in the world plus the looks of Natalie Portman, lucky fella. Posts: 6,722	Passed his best....injuries and having to carry that abysmal shower for years have taken its toll on the bloke, maybe a new challenge is what he needs to find himself again because hes going backwards at a serious rate of knots at that club. Hes no spring chicken anymore either, best days are behind him i think.