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Old 8th September 2010, 09:21   #81 (permalink)
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Complete prick of a man, couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding, overrated player, shite manager, offers his opinion on everything even though nobody gives a shit about what he thinks and his opinion usually offers a load of problems but no solutions.


In general I think it's fair to say I don't like him.
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Complete prick of a man, couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding, overrated player, shite manager, offers his opinion on everything even though nobody gives a shit about what he thinks and his opinion usually offers a load of problems but no solutions.


In general I think it's fair to say I don't like him.
Now Spammy, dont hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel
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I have a fairly ambivalent attitude towards the man that is Roy Keane. As a player, leader and captain he was unrivaled, inspirational and an absolute legend for the club but when I see Lee Sharpe's comments about there being a 'darkness' within him I can see where he is coming from. Although I can't say I like him as a person I have a deep and genuine respect for what he did and was for United but I can't help but feel the club was nothing more than a means to achieve his goals as a player for him. I always saw his love for the game, for the team and his passion to perform to the utmost of his and his teams abilities but since he left I'm not really sure if there ever was any love for Manchester United as a club.

I'm not sure if I get my point across like I want to here. I loved the player and leader we had in Roy Keane but Roy Keane the man is not someone I have the same amount of admiration for. I also want to add that the picture we as fans create of players' personalities based on what limited knowledge we have is not necessarily true.
I think that sums up my opinion of him perfectly.
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Complete prick of a man, couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding, overrated player, shite manager, offers his opinion on everything even though nobody gives a shit about what he thinks and his opinion usually offers a load of problems but no solutions.


In general I think it's fair to say I don't like him.
A lot of what you say is debatable and I probably wouldn't even spend much time debating against it. The bit in bold is horseshit though.
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The man was an ex pro boxer.

you call him not hard? what are the rest of the posh footballer? pussies?
Never turned professional but was a very promising amateur, by all accounts.
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The man was an ex pro boxer.

you call him not hard? what are the rest of the posh footballer? pussies?
No he wasn't. He boxed a bit when he was a child and had about 4 fights.
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Keane was a great football player, but he is not a 'hard man'. I respect him highly but he is just a big mouth and I honestly think Shearer and Viera would have knocked the shite outta him, hence he talked the talk but when it came down to crunch time he did nothing about it. Also theres nothing to be proud of breaking a mans leg, its a cowardly act and I lost respect for him that day.


Sure. He did nothing about what? He should have jeopardized his teams chances of winning and got into more fights on the pitch?

He gave Vieira an earful and on the pitch he led his team to a victory. Clearly, he won that battle.
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I'm in the process of reading his autobiography for the forst time and Jesus, he doesn't hold back. Whether that's Dunphy's influence or just being deliberately provocaive is debatable, though.

I find it very interesting how he is full of praise for Clough, even after their fallout, full of praise for Ferguson and Kidd (obviously) but also hugely critical of Jack Charlton, the Irish coahing staff and training methods, even before McCarthy's arrival.
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Keane hits out at sections of United's support in the wake of what he felt was a dire atmosphere in the club's Champions League clash with Dynamo Kiev in 2000. "Sometimes you wonder, do they understand the game of football?" he splutters. "We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on. At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans. But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch. I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell 'football', never mind understand it."
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Keane was a great football player, but he is not a 'hard man'. I respect him highly but he is just a big mouth and I honestly think Shearer and Viera would have knocked the shite outta him, hence he talked the talk but when it came down to crunch time he did nothing about it. Also theres nothing to be proud of breaking a mans leg, its a cowardly act and I lost respect for him that day.
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A lot of what you say is debatable and I probably wouldn't even spend much time debating against it. The bit in bold is horseshit though.
It's laughable that everybody is so scared of him, I just don't get it. I don't expect any Utd fan to agree he's overrated.
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It's laughable that everybody is so scared of him, I just don't get it. I don't expect any Utd fan to agree he's overrated.
As much as I think he is a cunt, there is no way in the world you can call him over rated. You dont get to be the driving force behind the worlds best and biggest club throughout its most sucessful period by being over rated. Is Gerrard over rated as Keane is 50 times the player he is,

Keane>Gerrard>Souness>Ince
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You may have been exaggerating but Keane being 50 times better than Gerrard is kind of proving my point.
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You may have been exaggerating but Keane being 50 times better than Gerrard is kind of proving my point.
Well ok then..........fair enough...............45 times.
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Heh, not worth debating as nobody on here is ever going to want to hear it.
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If he played for any other club apart from our own, we'd all be united in the belief that he's an absolute, complete and utter tosser. It's indisputable, as good a player as he was.

I don't read down those rants and think "what a fantastic person", or "what a legend", nor should anyone else with an ounce of decency.
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It's laughable that everybody is so scared of him, I just don't get it. I don't expect any Utd fan to agree he's overrated.
I don't know whether or not professional footballer are/were scared of him but that tunnel rant at Vieira was as good an example as you'll ever see of one football "hard man" putting the shits up another, before a ball had even been kicked.

It's probably the only time I've ever seen a black man visibly pale.
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I don't know whether or not professional footballer are/were scared of him but that tunnel rant at Vieira was as good an example as you'll ever see of one football "hard man" putting the shits up another, before a ball had even been kicked.

It's probably the only time I've ever seen a black man visibly pale.
Personally, I think that whole episode is over-hyped by Utd fans.
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Personally, I think that whole episode is over-hyped by Utd fans.
You would though, wouldn't you?
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I love the man, but sadly alot of the time he makes it seem it couldn't give a fuck about United
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You would though, wouldn't you?
No.

I like Keane, perversely enough, but he doesn't really come across as a hard man. He comes across as more of a bully to me.

Great player though and I genuinely hope he succeeds at management.
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No.

I like Keane, perversely enough, but he doesn't really come across as a hard man. He comes across as more of a bully to me.

Great player though and I genuinely hope he succeeds at management.
That's quite nice of you

I couldn't wish the same for a Liverpool legend
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No.

I like Keane, perversely enough, but he doesn't really come across as a hard man. He comes across as more of a bully to me.

Great player though and I genuinely hope he succeeds at management.
This is where I'm confused.

You see, what Vieira did to Gaz was "bullying" and as soon as someone stepped in to take him up on his challenge, he wet his f'n pants.

If Keane was a bully, he wouldn't have ever stepped up to the so called hardmen of the game. The fact that he has never "backed down", not once, should prove otherwise.
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You may have been exaggerating but Keane being 50 times better than Gerrard is kind of proving my point.
He actually IS 50 times better than Gerrard. And I'm not even mentioning the fact that he was 100000000000000000000000000 times better captain than Steven.
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I don't know whether or not professional footballer are/were scared of him but that tunnel rant at Vieira was as good an example as you'll ever see of one football "hard man" putting the shits up another, before a ball had even been kicked.

It's probably the only time I've ever seen a black man visibly pale.
Vieira wasn't a hard man, he was French.

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He actually IS 50 times better than Gerrard. And I'm not even mentioning the fact that he was 100000000000000000000000000 times better captain than Steven.
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Sure. He did nothing about what? He should have jeopardized his teams chances of winning and got into more fights on the pitch?

He gave Vieira an earful and on the pitch he led his team to a victory. Clearly, he won that battle.
Yes, but hows that being a 'hard man' which is what I was arguing in the first place? He was all talk, thats it. Sure he backed himself up on the pitch in the way he played (he was great) but for people to say he was anything 'harder' than the modern day foreign pussy is absolute shite. Just talked a hard game.
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Complete prick of a man, couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding, overrated player, shite manager, offers his opinion on everything even though nobody gives a shit about what he thinks and his opinion usually offers a load of problems but no solutions.


In general I think it's fair to say I don't like him.
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Yes, but hows that being a 'hard man' which is what I was arguing in the first place? He was all talk, thats it. Sure he backed himself up on the pitch in the way he played (he was great) but for people to say he was anything 'harder' than the modern day foreign pussy is absolute shite. Just talked a hard game.
I don't understand. How can a footballer prove himself to be a 'hard man' any more than never backing down from a single challenge or any confrontation at any point in his career?
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It's laughable that everybody is so scared of him, I just don't get it. I don't expect any Utd fan to agree he's overrated.
His fear factor is overrated. If Vieira and Keane had that verbal, say, in the French league, you'd pip Vieira to speak rapid French and Kenae to be the one staring instead. Plus, he never had the better of Shearer in any way.

As a player, he was unimaginably good. But not an all-conqueror as many seem to believe.
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His fear factor is overrated. If Vieira and Keane had that verbal, say, in the French league, you'd pip Vieira to speak rapid French and Kenae to be the one staring instead. Plus, he never had the better of Shearer in any way.
As a player, he was unimaginably good. But not an all-conqueror as many seem to believe.

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No.

I like Keane, perversely enough, but he doesn't really come across as a hard man. He comes across as more of a bully to me.

Great player though and I genuinely hope he succeeds at management.
A bully is someone who is scared of those who are as strong as them, or stronger than them, but will pick on people they see to be weaker than them. Cowards, in other words.

Keane was sticking up for his teammate that time in the tunnel against Vieira. Vieira was picking on Gary Neville, a man much shorter and probably weaker (no offence, Gav) than him and trying to get in his face. That's a bully. Keane stood up for Neville and got in Vieira's face, a man much taller and bigger than him, and refused to be afraid of him, but visibly scared him by confronting him. That's not a bully.
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A bully is someone who is scared of those who are as strong as them, or stronger than them, but will pick on people they see to be weaker than them. Cowards, in other words.

Keane was sticking up for his teammate that time in the tunnel against Vieira. Vieira was picking on Gary Neville, a man much shorter and probably weaker (no offence, Gav) than him and trying to get in his face. That's a bully. Keane stood up for Neville and got in Vieira's face, a man much taller and bigger than him, and refused to be afraid of him, but visibly scared him by confronting him. That's not a bully.
Was Keane's injury inducing tackle on that City player (Haaland?) the work of a hard man or a coward?

I have never met Keane so can only judge on what I see and what I see could be extremely misleading of course. To me he came across as a bully on the football pitch. But the reality is he could well be the hardest man since Grant Mitchell. I guess I'll never know for sure either way.
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Was Keane's injury inducing tackle on that City player (Haaland?) the work of a hard man or a coward?

I have never met Keane so can only judge on what I see and what I see could be extremely misleading of course. To me he came across as a bully on the football pitch. But the reality is he could well be the hardest man since Grant Mitchell. I guess I'll never know for sure either way.
Haaland played the next week, he retired due to an injury to his other knee.
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Haaland played the next week, he retired due to an injury to his other knee.
Haaland believes the Keane tackle ended his career. But the outcome of that tackle wasn't really my point, the tackle itself was. Was it the action of a hard man or a coward? You have a view there?
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Haaland believes the Keane tackle ended his career. But the outcome of that tackle wasn't really my point, the tackle itself was. Was it the action of a hard man or a coward? You have a view there?
Not mutually exclusive. A hard man is capable of cowardly acts.
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Was Keane's injury inducing tackle on that City player (Haaland?) the work of a hard man or a coward?

I have never met Keane so can only judge on what I see and what I see could be extremely misleading of course. To me he came across as a bully on the football pitch. But the reality is he could well be the hardest man since Grant Mitchell. I guess I'll never know for sure either way.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
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Haaland believes the Keane tackle ended his career. But the outcome of that tackle wasn't really my point, the tackle itself was. Was it the action of a hard man or a coward? You have a view there?
Keane and Haaland had met before the 2001 incident, I can remember a 1999 (?) game at Elland Road where they had to be separated by the referee. If his autobiography (ghost written by Eamon Dunphy) is true then yes, I agree it was cowardly but it doesn't necessarily mean Haaland was innocent either.
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