Terry Racism Trial | Pleads Not Guilty | Loses England captaincy | Fabio disagrees

gooDevil · 25th January 2012, 18:40

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Originally Posted by padzilla

Wouldn't it make more sense to shake Anton Ferdinand's hand?

That would be a good racism check: If you think Terry apologizing to Rio is good enough, you might be a racist!

Snow · 25th January 2012, 18:43

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Originally Posted by SteveJ

Christ, no wonder Liverpool fans think that foreign players get a rougher deal on disciplinary matters than England internationals do. The Terry/Ferdinand business isn't resolved yet, so how can anyone suggest that they should shake hands? Ridiculous.

That's an opinions shared by a whole lot of non-English folk who watch the PL every weak.

Balotelli get's prosecuted, Lescott escapes. Just one of many this season alone.

Sunny Jim · 25th January 2012, 19:08

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Originally Posted by decorativeed

Every touch of the ball he had was cheered by the United fans as well.

I rember the big ovation JT got in Septmber. Was bemused at first but later I understood and burst in laughter.

99 red balloons · 27th January 2012, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Sunny Jim

I rember the big ovation JT got in Septmber. Was bemused at first but later I understood and burst in laughter.

That was hilarious that day. We won 3-0 I think didn't we?

The sarcastic cheering EVERY time he touched the ball, for the whole 90 mins, really rattled him. Not often you see the crowd actually rattle someone, but on that day I really think we did.

Also nearly pissed myself at the prolonged cheer when his name was read out on the team-sheet. Great day that.

forevrared · 27th January 2012, 17:06

Apparently Anton Ferdinand has been sent a bullet in the post.

prateik · 27th January 2012, 17:10

Twitter?

forevrared · 27th January 2012, 17:25

Off one of the Times journalists.

duffer · 27th January 2012, 17:31

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Originally Posted by forevrared

Off one of the Times journalists.

Fucking hell, i'd imagine he'll get the sack for that.

Inigo Montoya · 27th January 2012, 17:31

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Originally Posted by forevrared

Apparently Anton Ferdinand has been sent a bullet in the post.

Suarez?

forevrared · 27th January 2012, 17:34

bensmithTimes Ben Smith
Bullet addressed to Anton Ferdinand was sent to #QPR, arrived this morning. Met Police now investigating.

R_Kelly · 27th January 2012, 17:34

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Originally Posted by duffer

Fucking hell, i'd imagine he'll get the sack for that.

SteveJ · 27th January 2012, 17:41

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Originally Posted by duffer

Fucking hell, i'd imagine he'll get the sack for that.

antihenry · 1st February 2012, 11:17

Dominic Fifield
@domfifield

John Terry's court case to be heard in week beginning 9 July at Westminster magistrates' court...

9 minutes ago via txt

Brophs · 1st February 2012, 11:20

The Euros are in June, aren't they? Imagine if Terry captained England to the trophy (I know, I know, but just imagine) and a couple of weeks later he was convicted for racial abuse of one of the other players' brothers.

Irwinwastheking · 1st February 2012, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Brophs

The Euros are in June, aren't they? Imagine if Terry captained England to the trophy (I know, I know, but just imagine) and a couple of weeks later he was convicted for racial abuse of one of the other players' brothers.

Have Rio and Terry played together since the abuse?

Brophs · 1st February 2012, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Irwinwastheking

Have Rio and Terry played together since the abuse?

No. I don't even think Rio will be picked, tbh.

Wowi · 1st February 2012, 11:42

I don't quite understand why the trial has been postponed. Is that in any way common in the UK?

Sylar · 1st February 2012, 11:49

Absolutely ridiculous. He will probably get done after the Euros and miss 4 pre season friendlys as a result.

Wowi · 1st February 2012, 11:57

Apparently this is the reason (from Annie Eaves on twitter)

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Joh Terry's trial has been delayed because his defence said it would be difficult to call the many witnesses before then.

As the defence has already had quite a few months to talk to witnesses, I'm assuming this means that the witnesses (which is most likely mainly footballers) won't have time to meet up in court. Sounds like a fantastic reason. I'm sure their day are much busier than the average working man's day.

Coxy · 1st February 2012, 12:08

The Suarez/Evra incident also happened in October 2011, yet that's been fully investigated and a verdict given following a hearing.

Why is Terry's trial delayed by such a long time? Also, why is the maximum fine for this offence only £2,500 when Suarez was fined £40,000?

Something dodgy about this.....no surprise there.

Makki · 1st February 2012, 12:09

Terry will probably have retired before his ban is announced.

Brophs · 1st February 2012, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Coxy

The Suarez/Evra incident also happened in October 2011, yet that's been fully investigated and a verdict given following a hearing.

Why is Terry's trial delayed by such a long time? Also, why is the maximum fine for this offence only £2,500 when Suarez was fined £40,000?

Something dodgy about this.....no surprise there.

You do know one is a criminal trial and one is a punishment imposed by the FA?

Kelvin · 1st February 2012, 12:11

bet rawk will be screaming about conspiracy.

finneh · 1st February 2012, 12:12

To be honest if you have enough money to throw at most Court trials you can delay them countless weeks/months.

McGrathsipan · 1st February 2012, 12:14

so predictable

kietotheworld · 1st February 2012, 12:24

I suspect the real reason for this is that he wants to go to the European Championships, and he knows that won't happen if he's found guilty.

What's going to be very interesting is, if the courts find him not guilty, how the FA will treat this. It might well be that Terry gets cleared because it can't be proven beyond reasonable doubt, but the FA's standard of proof is significantly lower, requiring only balance of probabilities. It would be very difficult though, to charge a man with an offence when in the eyes of the general public he has already been proven innocent.

Coxy · 1st February 2012, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Brophs

You do know one is a criminal trial and one is a punishment imposed by the FA?

Don't try and impose logic on me - I want to believe the FA are in the wrong

EdWeatherall · 1st February 2012, 13:41

Looks like Terry, unless injured, is going to Euro 2012 as I just don't see the FA growing a pair and doing the right thing

madhed · 1st February 2012, 14:16

John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

Eugenius · 1st February 2012, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Makki

Terry will probably have retired before his ban is announced.

Exactly.

He'll retire after Euro 2012.

77 · 1st February 2012, 14:31

It wouldn't be right to take him to the Euros with this hanging over his head.

Liam147 · 1st February 2012, 14:31

So because the trial has been delayed until June, does that mean the FA are powerless until then?

Absurd if so.

Damien1990 · 1st February 2012, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Liam147

So because the trial has been delayed until June, does that mean the FA are powerless until then?

Absurd if so.

Yes it does.

Wowi · 1st February 2012, 14:35

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Originally Posted by madhed

John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

ha_rooney · 1st February 2012, 14:39

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Originally Posted by madhed

John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

MDFC Manager · 1st February 2012, 14:43

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Originally Posted by madhed

John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

Brophs · 1st February 2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Liam147

So because the trial has been delayed until June, does that mean the FA are powerless until then?

Absurd if so.

In what way is it absurd? What if he's found to be innocent?

Floyd · 1st February 2012, 14:49

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Originally Posted by madhed

John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

adexkola · 1st February 2012, 14:54

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Originally Posted by decorativeed

Different scenario, obviously, but do you remember the first game Terry played at Old Trafford after Moscow?

That day was brilliant

Liam147 · 1st February 2012, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Brophs

In what way is it absurd? What if he's found to be innocent?

Well, thinking about it, it's not THAT absurd, as any verdict made by the FA will surely impact the jury and make a fair trial impossible. But it's not quite right that, as you said, he could captain England (alongside Rio) to the Euros, then get found guilty of racial abuse shortly after.

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27th January 2012, 17:06	#605 (permalink)
forevrared Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,973	Apparently Anton Ferdinand has been sent a bullet in the post.

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prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,029	Twitter?

27th January 2012, 17:25	#607 (permalink)
forevrared Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,973	Off one of the Times journalists.

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forevrared Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,973	bensmithTimes Ben Smith Bullet addressed to Anton Ferdinand was sent to #QPR, arrived this morning. Met Police now investigating.

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antihenry Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blue Heaven Posts: 3,933	Dominic Fifield @domfifield John Terry's court case to be heard in week beginning 9 July at Westminster magistrates' court... 9 minutes ago via txt

1st February 2012, 11:20	#614 (permalink)
Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,706	The Euros are in June, aren't they? Imagine if Terry captained England to the trophy (I know, I know, but just imagine) and a couple of weeks later he was convicted for racial abuse of one of the other players' brothers.

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Wowi Rød grød med fløde Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,071	I don't quite understand why the trial has been postponed. Is that in any way common in the UK?

1st February 2012, 11:49	#618 (permalink)
Sylar Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,818	Absolutely ridiculous. He will probably get done after the Euros and miss 4 pre season friendlys as a result.

1st February 2012, 12:08	#620 (permalink)
Coxy Youth Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The City Ground Posts: 349	The Suarez/Evra incident also happened in October 2011, yet that's been fully investigated and a verdict given following a hearing. Why is Terry's trial delayed by such a long time? Also, why is the maximum fine for this offence only £2,500 when Suarez was fined £40,000? Something dodgy about this.....no surprise there.

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Makki Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: freguson y u rest the ginger prawn hes most importntat playr n he cn done us much betr! Sell all them stinkiers like carick/cuberley/ and old man giggs shud go to retardment castle! Posts: 10,835	Terry will probably have retired before his ban is announced.

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1st February 2012, 12:12	#624 (permalink)
finneh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,756	To be honest if you have enough money to throw at most Court trials you can delay them countless weeks/months.

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kietotheworld Platini's mum Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Machete's Chop Shop Posts: 11,602	I suspect the real reason for this is that he wants to go to the European Championships, and he knows that won't happen if he's found guilty. What's going to be very interesting is, if the courts find him not guilty, how the FA will treat this. It might well be that Terry gets cleared because it can't be proven beyond reasonable doubt, but the FA's standard of proof is significantly lower, requiring only balance of probabilities. It would be very difficult though, to charge a man with an offence when in the eyes of the general public he has already been proven innocent.

1st February 2012, 13:41	#628 (permalink)
EdWeatherall First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,293	Looks like Terry, unless injured, is going to Euro 2012 as I just don't see the FA growing a pair and doing the right thing

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madhed Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Winner(By default) of the Newbies Stock exchange 2010... Posts: 3,862	John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did.

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77 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: http://youtu.be/BGVSTsgcCvw Posts: 15,178	It wouldn't be right to take him to the Euros with this hanging over his head.

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Liam147 Yoko Ono Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: "It aint the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." Posts: 8,784	So because the trial has been delayed until June, does that mean the FA are powerless until then? Absurd if so.