Tony Pulis

cj4_elmo · 29th August 2011, 09:14

Pulis has been doing a very underrated job down there, slowly but surely he's building a team good enough for the top half.

A team who're strong in the air and have wingers who on their day could give every fullback a hard time.

Is Stoke City his level or should he be aiming for a better club to further his managerial career?

prateik · 29th August 2011, 09:20

Big Sam did a much better job at Bolton.

I'd say he is a good fit there. Not sure every team can play the way he wants. Stoke have been built that way over the seasons

Stoke are turning into a rougher version of Sparky's blackburn. Good wingplay and a strong physical side

marjen · 1st February 2012, 01:11

The biggest moaner in the league, by far.

"Two debatable pens"... One of them was stonewall, the other pretty clear, plus he's failed to mention the fact that we got an absolute cast iron pen not given afterwards.

The twat perhaps should learn his players to actually control a football, and try another tactic than camping his players inside his own box for 90 minutes like a group of fat boy scouts waiting to get their asses handed to them. Perhaps they wouldn't be inclined to give away clear cut fouls inside the box.

peterstorey · 1st February 2012, 01:13

He's a cunt and the new wave of playing football is going to see him fucked like Fattodyce.

Commadus · 1st February 2012, 01:44

Absolute cunt and blind as a bat - he can fucl off with his bunch of thugs.

Wowi · 1st February 2012, 01:56

I love how managers are allowed to say "you don't get decisions at Old Trafford" and stuff like that without anyone caring, but as soon as Fergie (or Wenger for that matter) opens their mouth the press and general public is shocked by the fact that they dare criticise the ref.

Some of the midtable managers are easily as bad as Fergie when it comes to criticising refs, but it's almost always ignored. Pulis comments after tonight's game was easily the worst I've heard in a long time. "Two debatable penalties"? Was it fuck. The MOTD studio just laughed at it and showed him he was wrong - imagine if Fergie had said something similar? He'd be serving a three match ban faster than he could say "there's no doubt about that".

Devil may care · 1st February 2012, 02:01

Pulis' comments are no different to calling the ref a cheat.

a_devil_inside · 1st February 2012, 06:37

think he did mention the Evra incident as one that should have stood

Wittmann45 · 1st February 2012, 06:44

I loved their tactics. They had one chance at the top of our 18 yard box. I forget who it was but he was square to the goal with both Jones and Crouch ahead of him. Instead of trying anything creative or intricate, he pushed the ball out wide and the attack fissiled out as the cross came in and was clear. This was early in the game when Stoke still had a chance. They were clueless unless the ball was out wide...

Randall Flagg · 1st February 2012, 06:50

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Originally Posted by Marjen Robben

The biggest moaner in the league, by far.

"Two debatable pens"... One of them was stonewall, the other pretty clear, plus he's failed to mention the fact that we got an absolute cast iron pen not given afterwards.

The twat perhaps should learn his players to actually control a football, and try another tactic than camping his players inside his own box for 90 minutes like a group of fat boy scouts waiting to get their asses handed to them. Perhaps they wouldn't be inclined to give away clear cut fouls inside the box.

He actully said the one not given was the most clear of the three

Varun_Utd · 1st February 2012, 07:07

i read an entirely different version on espn.

Northstand · 1st February 2012, 07:14

He has a short memory as well, Ten minutes into the game at the Britannia, Woodgate blatantly fouled Hernandez in the box, resulting in our player going off injured and neither a red card nor a penalty resulting.

anver · 1st February 2012, 07:20

Tony Pulis: "The first one was very debatable. The second one was (a penalty) ... and the one he didn't give - for a foul on Patrice Evra - was a definite penalty." ESPN

Where does he say two were debatable? Give that man a break.

Agent Red · 1st February 2012, 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by anver

Tony Pulis: "The first one was very debatable. The second one was (a penalty) ... and the one he didn't give - for a foul on Patrice Evra - was a definite penalty." ESPN

Where does he say two were debatable? Give that man a break.

In his interview to BBC he said 'the penalties were very debatable...but we're at Old Trafford...of course we don't expect decisions'.

I don't think we need to give him a break. Even if he qualifies it later by saying the 3rd one was a pen, it's the pedaling of the tired 'we're at Old Trafford, of course it was fixed' attitude that he deserves most stick for.

Stoke were shit last night, I wasn't worried at any point and I am a nervous viewer. They lost because they were poor and consistently fouled us in the box, to blame it on dodgy ref decisions is weak.

Varun_Utd · 1st February 2012, 07:34

He's always had a history of moaning about ref calls iirc. considering the amount of shit his team gets away with at the brittania, very hypocritical to say the least.

Man-United · 1st February 2012, 08:19

Pulis is the worst mananger in the league when it comes to criticise referees.

R_Kelly · 1st February 2012, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by anver

Tony Pulis: "The first one was very debatable. The second one was (a penalty) ... and the one he didn't give - for a foul on Patrice Evra - was a definite penalty." ESPN

Where does he say two were debatable? Give that man a break.

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Originally Posted by Agent Red

In his interview to BBC he said 'the penalties were very debatable...but we're at Old Trafford...of course we don't expect decisions'.

I don't think we need to give him a break. Even if he qualifies it later by saying the 3rd one was a pen, it's the pedaling of the tired 'we're at Old Trafford, of course it was fixed' attitude that he deserves most stick for.

Stoke were shit last night, I wasn't worried at any point and I am a nervous viewer. They lost because they were poor and consistently fouled us in the box, to blame it on dodgy ref decisions is weak.

BBC Sport - Man Utd 2-0 Stoke: Pulis questions penalty decisions

The man's a moaning cnut, and he's saying referees as a collective are biased. I mentioned in the MoTD thread that he does it all the time and nothing ever gets said or done, it's ridiculous.

Solius · 1st February 2012, 08:48

I'm pretty sure they're quite high on the list of teams that have benefitted from incorrect refereeing decisions this season too.

marjen · 1st February 2012, 08:52

As I said, biggest moaner in the league.

And his team is a bunch of cheats. For all this supposed hardman-stuff, they're so prone to play the long ball, then one of their strikers throw themselves to the ground, and they get a freekick where they can foul themselves to a goal. And don't get me started on the timewasting.

Also, Peter Crouch is detestable. I just can't bring myself to like him. He always moan about every decision, he is an absolutely shite footballer, and still gets accolades in the press, and he's never actually won a header without fouling someone. He always "jumps" with his arm in the neck of the defender, pushing him down. How the refs haven't wised up to this in all his years as a PL striker I'll never know, it's just so blatant. Cheat.

For everyone praising Pulis for the work he's done, for me he's just bent the rules and cheated his way into being a midtable team, with easily the most dislikeable club in the country(fans, playing style etc). It's sad that this is still possible in modern football, and I won't give the twat one ounce of credit. When he's gone, good riddance, and best of luck to the poor manager who's forced to inherit that squad of cloggers and nothing players, and actually try and make them play football.

rcoobc · 1st February 2012, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Nick

BBC Sport - Man Utd 2-0 Stoke: Pulis questions penalty decisions

The man's a moaning cnut, and he's saying referees as a collective are biased. I mentioned in the MoTD thread that he does it all the time and nothing ever gets said or done, it's ridiculous.

What's he on about 9th game out of 11 away from home? Does he mean after a certain point in time?

I hate to break it to him, but you play 19 times away in this league.

Edit - Also he couldn't have picked that team more wrong, not complaining though.

Maciek · 1st February 2012, 09:13

He didn't moan when Stoke had seven home games and only two away in September/October.

And he didn't even tell the truth, it was 8th away game in last 11 matches.

Inigo Montoya · 1st February 2012, 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Nick

BBC Sport - Man Utd 2-0 Stoke: Pulis questions penalty decisions

The man's a moaning cnut, and he's saying referees as a collective are biased. I mentioned in the MoTD thread that he does it all the time and nothing ever gets said or done, it's ridiculous.

Stoke manager Tony Pulis: "It's always difficult coming here. We were playing one of the best teams - if not the best team - and we have got to keep the ball a little bit better and get up the pitch.

"Looking at them there (the penalties), they are very debatable but we are at Old Trafford."

Of course they were

Can't stand the guy and their pathetic fans

Man-United · 1st February 2012, 09:53

So he complains about having many away games, two of those come in the FA Cup against Gillingham and Derby and one away to Besiktas with every first team player rested.

Poor Tony. What about giving up the FA Cup and Europa League if it's so sorry about Stoke?

misterredmist · 1st February 2012, 10:45

Can't argue with the job Pulis has done and he'll not be the first or the last manager to bemoan the decision making process for officials at OT, wheras , in fact, he should be asking his players why they were making such kn*bhead challenges in their own box.

Apart from that, I still think he must be sponsored by KFC or MacDonalds, the way he dresses on the sidelines - 2 pieces and chips, to go, please Pulis !

RedLars · 1st February 2012, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northstand

He has a short memory as well, Ten minutes into the game at the Britannia, Woodgate blatantly fouled Hernandez in the box, resulting in our player going off injured and neither a red card nor a penalty resulting.

Still the most annoying match of the season for me. It was an absolute stone waller, and if the ref had got it right it would've sealed the match. Feels like two points stolen!

MG · 1st February 2012, 11:52

More moaning and nonsense from Pulis:

"Jermaine is adamant, although it doesn't show it on the television, that he played the ball first.

On the second, it's not a free-kick before the penalty. Then Valencia runs across Jon Walters and falls over.

When you come to Old Trafford, if there's decisions going, they go with the home side."

For God's sake, what a load of bullshit. The penalties were stonewall, and we actually should have had several more.

The "although it doesn't show it on television" bit makes me laugh - it might not look like it on TV but that's what happened, honest. Just don't believe the evidence of your eyes, believe in what Jermaine Pennant - that highly reliable source - says.

As for the bit in bold - cliched crap. And why does he keep getting away with making comments that the referee is biased? If Fergie said that about another team he'd be up on a charge.

We won fair and square ffs.

Makki · 1st February 2012, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG

More moaning and nonsense from Pulis:

"Jermaine is adamant, although it doesn't show it on the television, that he played the ball first.

On the second, it's not a free-kick before the penalty. Then Valencia runs across Jon Walters and falls over.

When you come to Old Trafford, if there's decisions going, they go with the home side."

For God's sake, what a load of bullshit. The penalties were stonewall, and we actually should have had several more.

The "although it doesn't show it on television" bit makes me laugh - it might not look like it on TV but that's what happened, honest. Just don't believe the evidence of your eyes, believe in what Jermaine Pennant - that highly reliable source - says.

As for the bit in bold - cliched crap. And why does he keep getting away with making comments that the referee is biased? If Fergie said that about another team he'd be up on a charge.

We won fair and square ffs.

"You can't see it, but he definitely played the ball!"

Even if he did, it was so marginal that the direction of the ball wasn't changed, which means he took the man out without winning the ball/taking it away from the attacker.

Wowi · 1st February 2012, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG

More moaning and nonsense from Pulis:

"Jermaine is adamant, although it doesn't show it on the television, that he played the ball first.

On the second, it's not a free-kick before the penalty. Then Valencia runs across Jon Walters and falls over.

When you come to Old Trafford, if there's decisions going, they go with the home side."

For God's sake, what a load of bullshit. The penalties were stonewall, and we actually should have had several more.

The "although it doesn't show it on television" bit makes me laugh - it might not look like it on TV but that's what happened, honest. Just don't believe the evidence of your eyes, believe in what Jermaine Pennant - that highly reliable source - says.

As for the bit in bold - cliched crap. And why does he keep getting away with making comments that the referee is biased? If Fergie said that about another team he'd be up on a charge.

We won fair and square ffs.

That's fantastic

"We don't need video review, lads. Just ask the players and they'll tell you exactly what happened. Honest. What they do is so fast that the cameras are unable to pick it up, so don't trust the video of the incident"

What a fucking retard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solius

I'm pretty sure they're quite high on the list of teams that have benefitted from incorrect refereeing decisions this season too.

According to this Debatable Decisions | Righting the man in blacks wrongs….. you're right. They're actually top, and by quite a margin.

Kelvin · 1st February 2012, 12:16

they were both penalties, to deny it is just absurd and dishonest thing to say, Pulis need a reality check.

marjen · 1st February 2012, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wowi

According to this Debatable Decisions | Righting the man in blacks wrongs….. you're right. They're actually top, and by quite a margin.

That's probably due to the refs dreading to call anything against them, what with that twat whining like a fucking little girl after every game.

londonredmaniac · 1st February 2012, 13:37

Stoke.

Neutral · 1st February 2012, 13:40

Complete joker - yet to see a single commentator disagree about the penalties - infact the commentary team I was listening to nearly had a meltdown because Evra was denied that 3rd penalty(nailed on).

Man-United · 4th February 2012, 17:16

Started to complain about other things now.

Pulis annoyed with Crawley scheduling - Sports Mole

"To play against one of the top sides in Europe on the Thursday, then to ask us to play on a Sunday morning in what will be Crawley's cup final, I think we are getting the short end of it."

When playing in Europe it's not unusual this can happen Tony. He might moan again after the Huth sending off today.

kps88 · 4th February 2012, 17:18

Heh what? Try playing Norwich away on an early kick off Saturday straight after a Thursday night Europa League tie. He should be grateful its on the Sunday.

Levo91 · 4th February 2012, 17:22

It's fucking Crawley, surely a team like Stoke could feature a few youngsters/reserves and still win comfortably.

prateik · 4th February 2012, 17:22

Talking of getting the short end of things, are Valencia complaining about having to play Stoke in Europe?

Sewelly The Geordie · 4th February 2012, 17:36

Bloke's a fraud. Will slide into the bottom half and be given another £20 million to spend in the summer to 'progress'.

Rinse and repeat.

Amir · 4th February 2012, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levo91

It's fucking Crawley, surely a team like Stoke could feature a few youngsters/reserves and still win comfortably.

Yeah, like we did.

I've no problem with Pulis complaining. The scheduling is unfair - it always is if you play on Thursday and then get an early Sunday game - and It would be completely unprofessional of him to think or say 'It's only Crawley, we should be OK'. It won't help him, but he has every right to say that and he's correct.

Man-United · 4th February 2012, 17:50

Well, then he maybe should not looking to get in to Europe. Sometimes you have to play late game on wed/thu and early on sat/sun.
They play at HOME to Valencia as well.

He moan all the fucking time.

lysglimt · 4th February 2012, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin

they were both penalties, to deny it is just absurd and dishonest thing to say, Pulis need a reality check.

The Pennant-one was hard to decide until the replay - but how one can claim that the second wasn't a penalty is beyond me....

29th August 2011, 09:14	#1 (permalink)
cj4_elmo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AKA: Slapanut Goat Smuggla Posts: 3,318	Tony Pulis Pulis has been doing a very underrated job down there, slowly but surely he's building a team good enough for the top half. A team who're strong in the air and have wingers who on their day could give every fullback a hard time. Is Stoke City his level or should he be aiming for a better club to further his managerial career?

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29th August 2011, 09:20	#2 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,031	Big Sam did a much better job at Bolton. I'd say he is a good fit there. Not sure every team can play the way he wants. Stoke have been built that way over the seasons Stoke are turning into a rougher version of Sparky's blackburn. Good wingplay and a strong physical side

1st February 2012, 01:11	#3 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,627	The biggest moaner in the league, by far. "Two debatable pens"... One of them was stonewall, the other pretty clear, plus he's failed to mention the fact that we got an absolute cast iron pen not given afterwards. The twat perhaps should learn his players to actually control a football, and try another tactic than camping his players inside his own box for 90 minutes like a group of fat boy scouts waiting to get their asses handed to them. Perhaps they wouldn't be inclined to give away clear cut fouls inside the box.

1st February 2012, 01:13	#4 (permalink)
peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,003	He's a cunt and the new wave of playing football is going to see him fucked like Fattodyce.

1st February 2012, 01:44	#5 (permalink)
Commadus First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,797	Absolute cunt and blind as a bat - he can fucl off with his bunch of thugs.

1st February 2012, 01:56	#6 (permalink)
Wowi Rød grød med fløde Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,071	I love how managers are allowed to say "you don't get decisions at Old Trafford" and stuff like that without anyone caring, but as soon as Fergie (or Wenger for that matter) opens their mouth the press and general public is shocked by the fact that they dare criticise the ref. Some of the midtable managers are easily as bad as Fergie when it comes to criticising refs, but it's almost always ignored. Pulis comments after tonight's game was easily the worst I've heard in a long time. "Two debatable penalties"? Was it fuck. The MOTD studio just laughed at it and showed him he was wrong - imagine if Fergie had said something similar? He'd be serving a three match ban faster than he could say "there's no doubt about that".

1st February 2012, 02:01	#7 (permalink)
Devil may care First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,328	Pulis' comments are no different to calling the ref a cheat.

1st February 2012, 06:37	#8 (permalink)
a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Little Britain Posts: 31,324	think he did mention the Evra incident as one that should have stood

1st February 2012, 06:44	#9 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 4,152	I loved their tactics. They had one chance at the top of our 18 yard box. I forget who it was but he was square to the goal with both Jones and Crouch ahead of him. Instead of trying anything creative or intricate, he pushed the ball out wide and the attack fissiled out as the cross came in and was clear. This was early in the game when Stoke still had a chance. They were clueless unless the ball was out wide...

1st February 2012, 07:07	#11 (permalink)
Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	i read an entirely different version on espn.

1st February 2012, 07:14	#12 (permalink)
Northstand Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,303	He has a short memory as well, Ten minutes into the game at the Britannia, Woodgate blatantly fouled Hernandez in the box, resulting in our player going off injured and neither a red card nor a penalty resulting.

1st February 2012, 07:20	#13 (permalink)
anver Shart stop Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colombo. Sri-Lanka Posts: 4,320	Tony Pulis: "The first one was very debatable. The second one was (a penalty) ... and the one he didn't give - for a foul on Patrice Evra - was a definite penalty." ESPN Where does he say two were debatable? Give that man a break.

1st February 2012, 07:34	#15 (permalink)
Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	He's always had a history of moaning about ref calls iirc. considering the amount of shit his team gets away with at the brittania, very hypocritical to say the least.

1st February 2012, 08:19	#16 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,602	Pulis is the worst mananger in the league when it comes to criticise referees.

1st February 2012, 08:48	#18 (permalink)
Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fucker shits Posts: 40,609	I'm pretty sure they're quite high on the list of teams that have benefitted from incorrect refereeing decisions this season too.

1st February 2012, 08:52	#19 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,627	As I said, biggest moaner in the league. And his team is a bunch of cheats. For all this supposed hardman-stuff, they're so prone to play the long ball, then one of their strikers throw themselves to the ground, and they get a freekick where they can foul themselves to a goal. And don't get me started on the timewasting. Also, Peter Crouch is detestable. I just can't bring myself to like him. He always moan about every decision, he is an absolutely shite footballer, and still gets accolades in the press, and he's never actually won a header without fouling someone. He always "jumps" with his arm in the neck of the defender, pushing him down. How the refs haven't wised up to this in all his years as a PL striker I'll never know, it's just so blatant. Cheat. For everyone praising Pulis for the work he's done, for me he's just bent the rules and cheated his way into being a midtable team, with easily the most dislikeable club in the country(fans, playing style etc). It's sad that this is still possible in modern football, and I won't give the twat one ounce of credit. When he's gone, good riddance, and best of luck to the poor manager who's forced to inherit that squad of cloggers and nothing players, and actually try and make them play football.

1st February 2012, 09:13	#21 (permalink)
Maciek Spit and Polish Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 'Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field. It's a fact, right? And it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow and not as good as your own cow.' Posts: 9,136	He didn't moan when Stoke had seven home games and only two away in September/October. And he didn't even tell the truth, it was 8th away game in last 11 matches.

1st February 2012, 09:53	#23 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,602	So he complains about having many away games, two of those come in the FA Cup against Gillingham and Derby and one away to Besiktas with every first team player rested. Poor Tony. What about giving up the FA Cup and Europa League if it's so sorry about Stoke?

1st February 2012, 10:45	#24 (permalink)
misterredmist Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baguley Posts: 1,689	Can't argue with the job Pulis has done and he'll not be the first or the last manager to bemoan the decision making process for officials at OT, wheras , in fact, he should be asking his players why they were making such kn*bhead challenges in their own box. Apart from that, I still think he must be sponsored by KFC or MacDonalds, the way he dresses on the sidelines - 2 pieces and chips, to go, please Pulis !

1st February 2012, 11:52	#26 (permalink)
MG First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: But I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Posts: 10,638	More moaning and nonsense from Pulis: "Jermaine is adamant, although it doesn't show it on the television, that he played the ball first. On the second, it's not a free-kick before the penalty. Then Valencia runs across Jon Walters and falls over. When you come to Old Trafford, if there's decisions going, they go with the home side." For God's sake, what a load of bullshit. The penalties were stonewall, and we actually should have had several more. The "although it doesn't show it on television" bit makes me laugh - it might not look like it on TV but that's what happened, honest. Just don't believe the evidence of your eyes, believe in what Jermaine Pennant - that highly reliable source - says. As for the bit in bold - cliched crap. And why does he keep getting away with making comments that the referee is biased? If Fergie said that about another team he'd be up on a charge. We won fair and square ffs.

1st February 2012, 12:16	#29 (permalink)
Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	they were both penalties, to deny it is just absurd and dishonest thing to say, Pulis need a reality check.

1st February 2012, 13:37	#31 (permalink)
londonredmaniac I suffer delusions of grandeur Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The announcer and referee of Gaz Vs DJS the meet! Posts: 12,359	Stoke.

1st February 2012, 13:40	#32 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 6,447	Complete joker - yet to see a single commentator disagree about the penalties - infact the commentary team I was listening to nearly had a meltdown because Evra was denied that 3rd penalty(nailed on).

4th February 2012, 17:16	#33 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,602	Started to complain about other things now. Pulis annoyed with Crawley scheduling - Sports Mole "To play against one of the top sides in Europe on the Thursday, then to ask us to play on a Sunday morning in what will be Crawley's cup final, I think we are getting the short end of it." When playing in Europe it's not unusual this can happen Tony. He might moan again after the Huth sending off today.

4th February 2012, 17:18	#34 (permalink)
kps88 First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coventry (SM) Posts: 8,723	Heh what? Try playing Norwich away on an early kick off Saturday straight after a Thursday night Europa League tie. He should be grateful its on the Sunday.

4th February 2012, 17:22	#35 (permalink)
Levo91 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tottenham Hotspur Posts: 7,975	It's fucking Crawley, surely a team like Stoke could feature a few youngsters/reserves and still win comfortably.

4th February 2012, 17:22	#36 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,031	Talking of getting the short end of things, are Valencia complaining about having to play Stoke in Europe?

4th February 2012, 17:36	#37 (permalink)
Sewelly The Geordie Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The palm of Mike Ashley's hand Posts: 2,589	Bloke's a fraud. Will slide into the bottom half and be given another £20 million to spend in the summer to 'progress'. Rinse and repeat.

4th February 2012, 17:50	#39 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,602	Well, then he maybe should not looking to get in to Europe. Sometimes you have to play late game on wed/thu and early on sat/sun. They play at HOME to Valencia as well. He moan all the fucking time.