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Old 20th March 2013, 13:13   #241 (permalink)
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Too early to consign Ravel Morrison to the list?
Yeah little too early for me. Long way to go there.
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Old 20th March 2013, 13:15   #242 (permalink)
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Isn't every player in this thread........-_-
I wouldn't say so.
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Old 20th March 2013, 13:27   #243 (permalink)
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Bojan Djordic
Steve Marlet
Jérôme Rothen?
Casiraghi?
Hakan Yakin? (or was he more a flash in the pan?)
Hidetoshi Nakata
Chris Byland?
Queresma
Michael Johnson
Micah Richards perhaps?
Terry Cooke
Keith Gillespie
Joey Barton perhaps if you consider how highly he was rated.
Stephen Ireland? As with Barton...accept those two are debatable.
Nile Ranger (was never going to be brilliant but is wasting his chance at any sort of football career)
Huntelaar?
Saviola?
Good shout. I would add Rafael Sobis and Matias Fernandez to that list...
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Old 20th March 2013, 13:29   #244 (permalink)
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On what fucking planet are people like Ronaldinho wasted talents? Are some of you on crack or some mind fuck drugs?
Because he could've gone on to be one of the greatest players ever. Nobody will make that claim now. He seemingly lost motivation. If you've got the potential to be the greatest footballer ever, and only go down as a really good footballer, wouldn't you say you've wasted at least a degree of your talent?

Some people fulfill their potential and more, others don't come close.
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Old 20th March 2013, 13:33   #245 (permalink)
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Micah Richards perhaps?
I think so.

I remember loads of people, also from media saying, he's gonna surpass Gary Neville.
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Old 20th March 2013, 13:53   #246 (permalink)
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Some people fulfill their potential and more, others don't come close.
The only thing he lacked was longevity, I really can't imagine his peak would've been much better than what he actually got to. He was truly amazing though, probably the most naturally talented player I've ever seen.
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Old 20th March 2013, 14:22   #247 (permalink)
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Johan Micoud was supposed to be a huge star in the making wasn't he?
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Old 20th March 2013, 14:24   #248 (permalink)
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Whay about Dennis Rommedahl?
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Old 20th March 2013, 14:25   #249 (permalink)
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Old 20th March 2013, 14:55   #250 (permalink)
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Fernando Torres anyone?
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Old 20th March 2013, 15:29   #251 (permalink)
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Whay about Dennis Rommedahl?
Nah he just had speed but the rest of his game always left a lot to be desired.
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Old 20th March 2013, 15:56   #252 (permalink)
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Was just about to suggest Torres too...
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:08   #253 (permalink)
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Good shout. I would add Rafael Sobis and Matias Fernandez to that list...
Sobis is a new one on me...
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:10   #254 (permalink)
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Nah he just had speed but the rest of his game always left a lot to be desired.
He was quite rightly regarded in Holland for a while wasn't he?

How about Kuyt? I remember folk really wanting him here for a long while as his scoring record was great in the Dutch League...or is memory not serving me right?
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:13   #255 (permalink)
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He was quite rightly regarded in Holland for a while wasn't he?

How about Kuyt? I remember folk really wanting him here for a long while as his scoring record was great in the Dutch League...or is memory not serving me right?
He had a pretty prolific goal record in Holland so people assumed he was proper goal scoring striker rather than just a false dutch striker.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:15   #256 (permalink)
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He had a pretty prolific goal record in Holland so people assumed he was proper goal scoring striker rather than just a false dutch striker.
I dont take player status' in Holland too seriously... Look at Kezman and Alfonso
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:16   #257 (permalink)
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Does Robinho get a shout?
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:21   #258 (permalink)
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I like this game

Postiga? Very highly regarded in Portugal and had two good seasons at Porto...then it sort of went downhill...fast.

I know he's in the Portugal side mind...so he might have been better since.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:25   #259 (permalink)
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Wasn't Keirrison supposed to be the next big thing?
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:25   #260 (permalink)
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:29   #261 (permalink)
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Canales! Another we were linked with if I remember correctly...

Krkic the Barca kid?
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:30   #262 (permalink)
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Wasn't Giovanni Dos Santos from there too? Signed for Spurs with some serious potential attached and does little to nothing?
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:31   #263 (permalink)
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On what fucking planet are people like Ronaldinho wasted talents? Are some of you on crack or some mind fuck drugs?
Some people in here shouldn't be allowed to post.

Consigning players who are still performing at the top level and winning trophies to the list as well as 22 year olds (Canales) and even players even younger?!

Fuck me
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:32   #264 (permalink)
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Canales is only 22? Fuck me...seems like he has been spoken about for years.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:36   #265 (permalink)
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Canales is still young, and he's been out for almost a year with one/two bad injuries. It was only a couple of months ago he started playing again.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:38   #266 (permalink)
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Kinell. Well there you go. Learn something new every day.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:44   #267 (permalink)
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:47   #268 (permalink)
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Sobis is a great shout!
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:54   #269 (permalink)
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Again might be more of a media one rather than a true wasted talent but Agbonlahor? Another who looked good at 21-22...and never kicked on.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:56   #270 (permalink)
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My list
1. Diego Armando Maradona – surely the best player in the world ever if only he stayed away from drugs
2. George Best – read above
3. Gazza – read above
4. Adriano – read above
5. Di Canio – he had the natural talent to go toe to toe with Robby Baggio. Unfortunately he was simply too mad to make it at a big side
6. Kluivert – a fantastic talent who would have had a great career at OT. Unfortunately he chose to go to Barcelona (who were more like today’s Real then today’s Barca) who ruined him
7. Owen – he had a great career with Liverpool but I often wonder what the kid would have achieved if he went to United. Under SAF responsible guidance he wouldn’t have suffered the burnout he had at Liverpool and would definitely not retired at 33
8. Edmundo - read Di Canio
9. Freddy Adu – At age 13 he was a phenomenon. Ive seen him play against Italy U17 and he literally humiliated them. Unfortunately his mother preferred to keep him in the US rather then join United. The rest is history
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:56   #271 (permalink)
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Postiga?
I remember watching his first game at White Hart Lane (against Bolton, I think, October '03?) with a friend who's a Spurs supporter.
A good shout.
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Old 20th March 2013, 16:58   #272 (permalink)
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Some of the players mentioned were never real talents in the first place; their only "talent" was their precocious physical growth, so once everyone else caught up, they were no longer special.
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Old 20th March 2013, 17:03   #273 (permalink)
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Fernando Gago?
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Old 20th March 2013, 17:05   #274 (permalink)
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Because he could've gone on to be one of the greatest players ever. Nobody will make that claim now. He seemingly lost motivation. If you've got the potential to be the greatest footballer ever, and only go down as a really good footballer, wouldn't you say you've wasted at least a degree of your talent?

Some people fulfill their potential and more, others don't come close.
Ronaldinho at one point was the best player in the world. He never wasted his fucking talent what so ever. If you've got the opinion he could of gone down as one of the greatest, that's up to you (and if we were taking into account players talent when they were at their actual best, then he'd rank among some of the greats quite easily), but he should never be included on a wasted talent list...why? Because he never wastes his talent and you're failing to grasp the idea of what a list like this should be.

People like Adu come to mind (In fairness, he's still young despite being known for yonks, yet the path he's on it looks like he'll go down as something along those lines unless he has a massive turn around), not players that were once the greatest on the planet and winning champion's leagues and league trophies.

Seriously, answer me properly, how is Ronaldinho a wasted talent? World class at Barcelona, went to Milan and despite what some claim, actually was brilliant for a decent part of his time there and then returned to Brazil and has been bloody good there. Some people are mental on here.
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Old 20th March 2013, 17:06   #275 (permalink)
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Some of the players mentioned were never real talents in the first place; their only "talent" was their precocious physical growth, so once everyone else caught up, they were no longer special.
Yeah I suppose. I was thinking about the heights predicted for the likes of Nigel Reo Coker as well. Agaon one linked with big moves and ended up being more in love with the footballer lifestyle than the game itself.
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Old 20th March 2013, 17:07   #276 (permalink)
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There is no way on this earth that Ronaldinho is a wasted talent.
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Old 20th March 2013, 17:21   #277 (permalink)
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How about that Kerlon kid from Cruzeiro? Was he actually a great talent or was all the fuzz about his freaking "seal trick"? I see he's ended up in the Japanese giants Fujieda MYFC.
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Old 20th March 2013, 18:02   #278 (permalink)
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Because he could've gone on to be one of the greatest players ever. Nobody will make that claim now. He seemingly lost motivation. If you've got the potential to be the greatest footballer ever, and only go down as a really good footballer, wouldn't you say you've wasted at least a degree of your talent?

Some people fulfill their potential and more, others don't come close.
The dude played at an extremely high level and won all there was to be won, didn't he? If he didn't reach what we perceive to be his full potential, didn't he at least get 98% there?

Ronaldinho: "wasted potential"? No chance.
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Wasn't Lars Ricken meant for big things after scoring for Dortmund in the Champions League final?
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Fernando Gago?
No dont think so, he played a number of games for Madrid and only approaching his mid 30s has he gone off the radar so to speak so not wasted.
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