Torres to Chelsea

cj4_elmo · 21st January 2012, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Team Brian GB

That was my point...

My bad, I read it the wrong way.

Peasplease · 21st January 2012, 15:20

Even if Chelsea wanted him out, would Torres even leave, given the wage drop he'd have to take? Unlikely IMO.

Moriarty · 21st January 2012, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Team Brian GB

Hasselbaink used to be like that for us, he would be absolutely useless for the vast majority of a match but then one solitary chance would come his way and he would bury it - job done.

That's always the way with great strikers. Jimmy Greaves in his heyday would often do bugger all until that one solitary chance came his way.

Kelvin · 21st January 2012, 15:42

when was his last premiership goal, is it against us at OT, thats one heck of a goal drought?

Maciek · 21st January 2012, 15:47

He scored next week against Swansea (and got a red card). 24th September.

RedDevilCanuck · 21st January 2012, 16:05

Torres will never go to Madrid. He is an Atletico supporter.

I can see Spurs or Juventus going for him in the summer.

cw1984 · 21st January 2012, 16:07

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Originally Posted by RedDevilCanuck

Torres will never go to Madrid. He is an Atletico supporter.

I can see Spurs or Juventus going for him in the summer.

Back to Athletico? Seems about his level...

kouroux · 21st January 2012, 16:38

He's become so shit.What a joke he's in comparison to the previous player he was.

Kelvin · 21st January 2012, 17:22

Norwich vs Chelsea 2012 Highlights 0-0 January Fernando Torres miss v Norwich City Video | Soccer Blog|Football News, Reviews, Quizzes

at Villas-Boas reaction

RedThaiDevils#7 · 22nd January 2012, 03:20

He didn't play badly imo... But you can really tell he's a yard slower than he used to be and it's easier to predict him now as he will not try to score with his left foot at all...

Thought his chances were half chances, scuffed but I mean they miss some they hit some...

The thing is, compared to post Chelsea, he was a lot shittier for Liverpool ( I mean the way he runs, his body language ) I think this is a slightly better Torres and I still think its quite harsh for him as he's been mainly used as a sub etc...

Also the way Chelsea play now has really changed, Mata should really have scored more than Torres for me, a bit disappointing from him.

Also, lots of hype surrounding Sturridge, but I thought Sturridge was jogging around and was more invisible than Torres...

Malouda also was not the player 2 seasons ago, lost all his confidence after not getting consistent games...

jojojo · 22nd January 2012, 07:44

In England, we look at Torres and think of that great first season he had at Liverpool. But he was not actually that consistent before that season, nor since, especially in front of goal. Throw in the injuries that certainly look to have slowed him down and it's hard to see him coming back to be that player who made such an impact in his first year here.

mariachi-19 · 22nd January 2012, 09:23

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Originally Posted by RedThaiDevils#7

He didn't play badly imo... But you can really tell he's a yard slower than he used to be and it's easier to predict him now as he will not try to score with his left foot at all...

Thought his chances were half chances, scuffed but I mean they miss some they hit some...

The thing is, compared to post Chelsea, he was a lot shittier for Liverpool ( I mean the way he runs, his body language ) I think this is a slightly better Torres and I still think its quite harsh for him as he's been mainly used as a sub etc...

Also the way Chelsea play now has really changed, Mata should really have scored more than Torres for me, a bit disappointing from him.

Also, lots of hype surrounding Sturridge, but I thought Sturridge was jogging around and was more invisible than Torres...

Malouda also was not the player 2 seasons ago, lost all his confidence after not getting consistent games...

Sturridge would be far better at the moment in the middle than Torres.

He 'Torres' has been getting a run of games regardless of starting or off the bench and failing to deliver time after time. Some times the buck has to stop with the player and not the amount of game time he's been getting. 15 hours without a goal is ridiculous which ever way you look at it.

Orton · 22nd January 2012, 09:46

He has been unlucky the past few games, hit the bar v Villa, hit the bar with an excellent acrobatic shot v Sunderland, and should have scored yesterday. He's been creating chances too.

Spoony Youngblood · 22nd January 2012, 10:01

Henry Winter thinks Torres will blossom once he feels loved. Oh and does anyone else think Winter's LFC mouthpiece? he's certainly very pro Liverpool.

B19 · 22nd January 2012, 10:22

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Originally Posted by RedThaiDevils#7

The thing is, compared to post Chelsea, he was a lot shittier for Liverpool ( I mean the way he runs, his body language ) I think this is a slightly better Torres and I still think its quite harsh for him as he's been mainly used as a sub etc...

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Originally Posted by jojojo

In England, we look at Torres and think of that great first season he had at Liverpool. But he was not actually that consistent before that season, nor since, especially in front of goal. Throw in the injuries that certainly look to have slowed him down and it's hard to see him coming back to be that player who made such an impact in his first year here.

Three seasons under rafa (games/goals):
2007/08: 46/33
2008/09: 38/17
2009/10: 32/22

He still had it right up to the point he chose to rush himself back from injury to make the world cup.

Even in his last six months under roy he got 9 goals in 26 games and we all thought he was really not delivering at the time (though the tactics didn't suit him either).

He is much much worse now than he ever was for us.

Danny1982 · 7th February 2012, 21:27

Fernando Torres 10/1 not to score another Premier League goal this season - Goal.com

I hope they didn't jinx it.

Plechazunga · 7th February 2012, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Spoony Youngblood

Henry Winter thinks Torres will blossom once he feels loved. Oh and does anyone else think Winter's LFC mouthpiece? he's certainly very pro Liverpool.

He loves United and Liverpool

Terrible writer he may be but he's always bigging up United and Fergie

peterstorey · 7th February 2012, 23:52

He's like a little kid - he just likes whoever's winning.

Plechazunga · 7th February 2012, 23:54

So not a big fan of your lot then

peterstorey · 7th February 2012, 23:56

Not now, but he used to be and will be again.

Plechazunga · 7th February 2012, 23:58

At the culmination of the ten-year plan?

peterstorey · 8th February 2012, 00:12

Before and after, we hope.

Plechazunga · 8th February 2012, 00:23

It might be quicker to forget the football and just get Usmanov to threaten Winter with a vat of acid unless he starts being nice.

peterstorey · 8th February 2012, 00:28

Boiling in a jar of oil is the traditional method Uzbeki treatment.

Wittmann45 · 8th February 2012, 00:33

He had a chance later in the game where he was given the ball while running diagonally into the box. He had a little bit of space and instead of shooting he tried to turn and ran into one of our other defenders, Rafael or Evans, I can't remember.

If that was the Torres who played for Liverpool, brimming with confidence, he would have smashed the ball at the upper corner and probably would have scored.

Neutral · 15th February 2012, 04:46

Off twitter:

Cutch · 18th February 2012, 16:11

Just seen he was subbed off at half time today

bsc · 18th February 2012, 16:13

I actually feel sorry for him. There I said it.

Cina · 18th February 2012, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Neutral

Off twitter:

Spoiler

How have I not seen that yet?

Ash_G · 18th February 2012, 16:20

He probably does need to leave chelsea. I've always thought it wasn't a good fit for him, their style and players didn't suit him. Having said that I think it would make a big difference to him if they stuck Mata in the middle, behind him and then had struridge and malouda/kalou flanking. Mata would link up with him a lot better than lamps would and is the sort of player he'd thrive off.

bsc · 18th February 2012, 16:21

I'd take Torres in a heartbeat.

Brophs · 18th February 2012, 16:22

He's a busted flush. Two years is too long for it to be a slump in form.

holyland red · 18th February 2012, 16:22

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Originally Posted by bsc

I actually feel sorry for him. There I said it.

Me too. This feels dirty.

MikeUpNorth · 18th February 2012, 16:24

Liverpool getting 50m quid for him has to be one of the best pieces of business in the history of the Premier League. Shame they spent it all on the likes of Carroll, Downing et al.

bsc · 18th February 2012, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Brophs

He's a busted flush. Two years is too long for it to be a slump in form.

He needs a move. He walked into a team on the wane, in transition, with a coach that isn't even sure he'll be here next week, never mind how to play him.

I think he's a loathsome pansy cunt, but my God: imagine him with Rooney supplying the ammo and under SAF's guidance.

Ash_G · 18th February 2012, 16:30

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Originally Posted by bsc

He needs a move. He walked into a team on the wane, in transition, with a coach that isn't even sure he'll be here next week, never mind how to play him.

I think he's a loathsome pansy cunt, but my God: imagine him with Rooney supplying the ammo and under SAF's guidance.

Yep it's a shame we didn't get him before he went to liverpool. He's actually the perfect partner for Rooney and honestly for 25m or whatever they paid we could have had such a great strike partnership. Not to mention a certain ronaldo on the wing.

OneUnited24 · 18th February 2012, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Ash_G

He probably does need to leave chelsea. I've always thought it wasn't a good fit for him, their style and players didn't suit him. Having said that I think it would make a big difference to him if they stuck Mata in the middle, behind him and then had struridge and malouda/kalou flanking. Mata would link up with him a lot better than lamps would and is the sort of player he'd thrive off.

Personally i think you would need two out and out wingers similar to Malouda along with Mata playing just behind him to get the best out of him. Having players who prefer to cut inside rather than send a cross in isnt helping.

Mickey · 18th February 2012, 16:32

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Originally Posted by bsc

I'd take Torres in a heartbeat.

I remember when he was hands down the best striker in the world. That seems a long time ago.

Ash_G · 18th February 2012, 16:34

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Originally Posted by OneUnited24

Personally i think you would need two out and out wingers similar to Malouda along with Mata playing just behind him to get the best out of him. Having players who prefer to cut inside rather than send a cross in isnt helping.

Oh yeah I agree, I just meant that's what they should do with what they have right now. Think I said in january that they should bring in a winger but they didn't. But definately two proper wingers and mata playing in the hole, and they would be set up to get the best out of Torres, whether he makes the most of it is a different matter.

bsc · 18th February 2012, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey

I remember when he was hands down the best striker in the world. That seems a long time ago.

Sure does. But he's still only 27. There's still time for redemption in my opinion.

However, I do think he's such a limited player that when his pace goes his top level is over.

His first touch is absolutely woeful.

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21st January 2012, 15:20	#962 (permalink)
Peasplease Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne, Oz Posts: 2,030	Even if Chelsea wanted him out, would Torres even leave, given the wage drop he'd have to take? Unlikely IMO.

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Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	when was his last premiership goal, is it against us at OT, thats one heck of a goal drought?

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RedDevilCanuck Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The GTA Posts: 3,185	Torres will never go to Madrid. He is an Atletico supporter. I can see Spurs or Juventus going for him in the summer.

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kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 25,562	He's become so shit.What a joke he's in comparison to the previous player he was.

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Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	Norwich vs Chelsea 2012 Highlights 0-0 January Fernando Torres miss v Norwich City Video \| Soccer Blog\|Football News, Reviews, Quizzes at Villas-Boas reaction

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RedThaiDevils#7 First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Married with Manchester United, In love with Giggs, Is passionate about Scholes, and is rooting for Bebe' Posts: 5,548	He didn't play badly imo... But you can really tell he's a yard slower than he used to be and it's easier to predict him now as he will not try to score with his left foot at all... Thought his chances were half chances, scuffed but I mean they miss some they hit some... The thing is, compared to post Chelsea, he was a lot shittier for Liverpool ( I mean the way he runs, his body language ) I think this is a slightly better Torres and I still think its quite harsh for him as he's been mainly used as a sub etc... Also the way Chelsea play now has really changed, Mata should really have scored more than Torres for me, a bit disappointing from him. Also, lots of hype surrounding Sturridge, but I thought Sturridge was jogging around and was more invisible than Torres... Malouda also was not the player 2 seasons ago, lost all his confidence after not getting consistent games...

22nd January 2012, 07:44	#971 (permalink)
jojojo First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Watching - just in case Posts: 7,932	In England, we look at Torres and think of that great first season he had at Liverpool. But he was not actually that consistent before that season, nor since, especially in front of goal. Throw in the injuries that certainly look to have slowed him down and it's hard to see him coming back to be that player who made such an impact in his first year here.

22nd January 2012, 09:46	#973 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,209	He has been unlucky the past few games, hit the bar v Villa, hit the bar with an excellent acrobatic shot v Sunderland, and should have scored yesterday. He's been creating chances too.

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Spoony Youngblood Wants to be more like Top Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: RIP Sydney Youngblood, who died in a tragic go-karting accident in 2007. RIP my cat 2001-09. iRIP Steve Cunting Jobs Posts: 42,368	Henry Winter thinks Torres will blossom once he feels loved. Oh and does anyone else think Winter's LFC mouthpiece? he's certainly very pro Liverpool.

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Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	So not a big fan of your lot then

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peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,003	Not now, but he used to be and will be again.

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Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	At the culmination of the ten-year plan?

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peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,003	Before and after, we hope.

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Danny1982 First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Old Trafford Posts: 5,302	Fernando Torres 10/1 not to score another Premier League goal this season - Goal.com I hope they didn't jinx it.

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peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,003	He's like a little kid - he just likes whoever's winning.

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Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	It might be quicker to forget the football and just get Usmanov to threaten Winter with a vat of acid unless he starts being nice.

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8th February 2012, 00:33	#985 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 4,152	He had a chance later in the game where he was given the ball while running diagonally into the box. He had a little bit of space and instead of shooting he tried to turn and ran into one of our other defenders, Rafael or Evans, I can't remember. If that was the Torres who played for Liverpool, brimming with confidence, he would have smashed the ball at the upper corner and probably would have scored.

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Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	Just seen he was subbed off at half time today

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bsc First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Stretford End - 3103 Posts: 5,714	I actually feel sorry for him. There I said it.

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Ash_G Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,393	He probably does need to leave chelsea. I've always thought it wasn't a good fit for him, their style and players didn't suit him. Having said that I think it would make a big difference to him if they stuck Mata in the middle, behind him and then had struridge and malouda/kalou flanking. Mata would link up with him a lot better than lamps would and is the sort of player he'd thrive off.

18th February 2012, 16:21	#991 (permalink)
bsc First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Stretford End - 3103 Posts: 5,714	I'd take Torres in a heartbeat.

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Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,713	He's a busted flush. Two years is too long for it to be a slump in form.

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MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	Liverpool getting 50m quid for him has to be one of the best pieces of business in the history of the Premier League. Shame they spent it all on the likes of Carroll, Downing et al.