Venables lays into Berbatov

Eyepopper · 30th September 2008, 10:39

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Former Tottenham manager Terry Venables has laid the blame for the club's poor start to the season squarely at Dimitar Berbatov's door.

Venables claims the Bulgarian's 'poisonous presence' at the beginning of the campaign has unsettled the whole squad.

Berbatov started the season at White Hart Lane but made clear his desire to realise a 'dream' move to current club Manchester United.

Speculation over Berbatov's future dominated Spurs' early matches as manager Juande Ramos wrestled with whether or not to select the striker, who eventually signed for the Red Devils in a £30million deal on transfer deadline day

Spurs are rooted to the bottom of the table after making their worst ever start to a Premier League season and Ramos is finding himself under increasing pressure.

But Venables, who last week turned down the chance to return to top-flight management with Newcastle, believes the club's current strife stems from Berbatov.

"Berbatov kept telling us he had 'a dream'. Well, good for you Dimi. You had a dream with a few extra noughts added to your bank balance," Venables told The Sun."But did Spurs have a dream too? You got your way but your poisonous presence at the start of the season - the brooding and the reluctance to play - has cost the club that believed in you."

Venables also believes the Spurs board made a mistake in selling Berbatov's strike partner Robbie Keane to Liverpool before they had a replacement.

"They thought they were going to get Andrei Arshavin," added Venables."This was a massive managerial blunder by Spurs, especially when they had allowed Keane to leave. But letting Berbatov and Keane go without having Arshavin in the bag was a boardroom blunder."

Trigg · 30th September 2008, 10:43

Easy way out is to blame someone who isn't there anymore. Its nothing to do with Ramos and his non existent midfield. Honest.

Eyepopper · 30th September 2008, 10:45

Or his shite buys; Modric

ERICSAGOD · 30th September 2008, 10:47

Hang on, they sell Defoe, Keane and Berbatov, and decide to keep Bent.

Now they are saying that because Bent and Pavluchenko play in a very similar way, apparently they can't play together!

Scholesgoals · 30th September 2008, 11:01

Tottenham being greedy wanting an exhorbitant sum for a 28year old.

get what you deserve.

kouroux · 30th September 2008, 11:05

First it was Carrick and Berbatov

Richter · 30th September 2008, 11:06

Why does he indicate that Berbatov moved to United because of money? City offered almost twice as much as United in wages.

Ringo 07 · 30th September 2008, 11:08

In fairness Venables is just trying to get noticed to promote his career in journalism. A few days ago was the massive back page headine `why I said no to Newcastle`, I mean as if we didnt know why he said no and funny how the other 35 managers that said no to the job didnt feel a need to blab their mouths off all over the back pages as to why they said no and I am sure money hungry Venables would have taken the job for 4 weeks if he felt the money was right so he is full of it. He never seems to say anything of substance really

anver · 30th September 2008, 11:17

The drip does not want to point the finger at Levy. That man was the sole culprit in the Berb saga. Ramos had indicated weeks before the deadline that the problem should be sorted out forthwith. But Levy kept dragging the issue, for a couple of million more. Now when they are in the oven, they are looking out for a scapegoat. Serves them right. They got their extra couple of millions, but they stand to lose much more as the season progresses.

Reddevil1971 · 30th September 2008, 11:19

The person at fault is Levy, he knew he was going to have to sell Berbatov but he tried to be the big man saying no to Utd and left his coach with no time to get a replacement in, instead of letting him go and signing someone of similar quality

Red For Ever · 30th September 2008, 11:22

Venables had a short spell as England manager where it went well ( Euro 96 )
and he left England due to his dodgy dealings
He was never a great manager and was lucky to have an in form Shearer and Gascoigne available to him at that time
Probably the most overated second hand car salesman to be involved in football

Ringo 07 · 30th September 2008, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Red For Ever

Venables had a short spell as England manager where it went well ( Euro 96 )
and he left England due to his dodgy dealings
He was never a great manager and was lucky to have an in form Shearer and Gascoigne available to him at that time
Probably the most overated second hand car salesman to be involved in football

True, and I think the fact that England were on home soil with the likes of Shearer, Gascoine, Sheringham, Pearce to name a few was the major factor of success in that tournament. Take Euro 96 out of his career and Venables has done nothing really of note. He is at about the same Managerial level as McClaren

Ceks · 30th September 2008, 11:30

I'm finding it all quite funny...Spurs screwed again.

FFS - should have beaten Hull.

peterstorey · 30th September 2008, 11:38

Sounds like he's after a caretaker role in a spot not too far away.

Ixion · 30th September 2008, 11:38

They should have just sold him before the season started instead of keeping an unhappy player, and used the 50 million from Berbatov and Keane to get Arshavin instead of arguing over a few million.

Red For Ever · 30th September 2008, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Ceks

I'm finding it all quite funny...Spurs screwed again.

FFS - should have beaten Hull.

Maybe when they play them NEXT Sunday they will, I hope not
Are you living in the future, if so can you PMS next Saturdays lottery numbers
Although you would have expected Arsenal to beat Hull instead of losing 2-1

Fuzzymel · 30th September 2008, 11:50

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Sounds like he's after a caretaker role in a spot not too far away.

Thats one of the rumours going around.

Unless they go out of Europe on Thursday I think Ramos will be there a while longer.

Ceks · 30th September 2008, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Red For Ever

Maybe when they play them NEXT Sunday they will, I hope not
Are you living in the future, if so can you PMS next Saturdays lottery numbers
Although you would have expected Arsenal to beat Hull instead of losing 2-1

4 17 19 28 34 39

You're Welcome.

Red For Ever · 30th September 2008, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Ceks

4 17 19 28 34 39

You're Welcome.

Thanks
I might just use them, cant do any worse than the ones I have used for the last 10 years

noodlehair · 30th September 2008, 11:54

It's not Berbatov's fault that Spurs decided to cling onto him until the last minute in the hope of securing an extra few million, and ended up replacing him with Frazer Campbell.

The irony of accusing him of putting his financial interests before what's best for the team, when in fact, that's exactly what Spurs ended up being guilty of.

Tibs · 30th September 2008, 13:33

F*ck Venables.

Spurs are the ones who played hardball, and all the time everybody knew Berba would end up at United.

If they'd sold him to us earlier, they'd have got the cash and could invested in players the needed (like a solid midfielder who'll win the ball).

Shouldn't be too long before Ramos is sacked

Raven_Blade · 30th September 2008, 14:29

Blame Levy. His stubborness cost them valuable time to find the right players while the transfer window was open. They could even have got Arshavin in if they hadnt waited so long to sell us Berbatov. Levy might have got a better deal in the end but at what cost? A poor season.

a_devil_inside · 30th September 2008, 15:45

maybe we should forfeit out points and give them to Spurs, its only fair. Give Bolton the 3 points too for us being award a penalty

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30th September 2008, 10:43	#2 (permalink)
Trigg aka Trippin_Stoned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,212	Easy way out is to blame someone who isn't there anymore. Its nothing to do with Ramos and his non existent midfield. Honest.

30th September 2008, 10:45	#3 (permalink)
Eyepopper one-eyed runt with a love for spinach Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lowering the Tone since 2006 Posts: 32,236	Or his shite buys; Modric

30th September 2008, 10:47	#4 (permalink)
ERICSAGOD Grumpy Old Git Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mrs Slocombe's Pussy Posts: 4,976	Hang on, they sell Defoe, Keane and Berbatov, and decide to keep Bent. Now they are saying that because Bent and Pavluchenko play in a very similar way, apparently they can't play together!

30th September 2008, 11:01	#5 (permalink)
Scholesgoals First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ogmalocopia Posts: 5,636	Tottenham being greedy wanting an exhorbitant sum for a 28year old. get what you deserve.

30th September 2008, 11:05	#6 (permalink)
kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poitiers(86)/France Posts: 14,799	First it was Carrick and Berbatov

30th September 2008, 11:06	#7 (permalink)
Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: 4-4-2 4-4-2 4-4-2 4-4-2 4-4-2 Posts: 26,572	Why does he indicate that Berbatov moved to United because of money? City offered almost twice as much as United in wages.

30th September 2008, 11:08	#8 (permalink)
Ringo 07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 'I couldn't settle in Italy - it was like living in a foreign country.' - Ian Rush Posts: 1,698	In fairness Venables is just trying to get noticed to promote his career in journalism. A few days ago was the massive back page headine `why I said no to Newcastle`, I mean as if we didnt know why he said no and funny how the other 35 managers that said no to the job didnt feel a need to blab their mouths off all over the back pages as to why they said no and I am sure money hungry Venables would have taken the job for 4 weeks if he felt the money was right so he is full of it. He never seems to say anything of substance really

30th September 2008, 11:17	#9 (permalink)
anver Shart stop Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colombo. Sri-Lanka Posts: 2,712	The drip does not want to point the finger at Levy. That man was the sole culprit in the Berb saga. Ramos had indicated weeks before the deadline that the problem should be sorted out forthwith. But Levy kept dragging the issue, for a couple of million more. Now when they are in the oven, they are looking out for a scapegoat. Serves them right. They got their extra couple of millions, but they stand to lose much more as the season progresses.

30th September 2008, 11:19	#10 (permalink)
Reddevil1971 Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,030	The person at fault is Levy, he knew he was going to have to sell Berbatov but he tried to be the big man saying no to Utd and left his coach with no time to get a replacement in, instead of letting him go and signing someone of similar quality

30th September 2008, 11:22	#11 (permalink)
Red For Ever Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,761	Venables had a short spell as England manager where it went well ( Euro 96 ) and he left England due to his dodgy dealings He was never a great manager and was lucky to have an in form Shearer and Gascoigne available to him at that time Probably the most overated second hand car salesman to be involved in football

30th September 2008, 11:30	#13 (permalink)
Ceks Prefers em hot, and spicy Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: “We must respect the other fellow’s religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart” - H.L. Mencken 'Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home' - Arsene Wenger Posts: 5,542	I'm finding it all quite funny...Spurs screwed again. FFS - should have beaten Hull.

30th September 2008, 11:38	#14 (permalink)
peterstorey Winner of the 'Most pompous arrogant pretentious Gooner' title 2004 & 2009 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 13,855	Sounds like he's after a caretaker role in a spot not too far away.

30th September 2008, 11:38	#15 (permalink)
Ixion First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 5,098	They should have just sold him before the season started instead of keeping an unhappy player, and used the 50 million from Berbatov and Keane to get Arshavin instead of arguing over a few million.

30th September 2008, 11:54	#20 (permalink)
noodlehair Flexile Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: "What's that?" "It's the midi interface" "I know, but what is it?" Posts: 33,939	It's not Berbatov's fault that Spurs decided to cling onto him until the last minute in the hope of securing an extra few million, and ended up replacing him with Frazer Campbell. The irony of accusing him of putting his financial interests before what's best for the team, when in fact, that's exactly what Spurs ended up being guilty of.

30th September 2008, 13:33	#21 (permalink)
Tibs First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gtr. Manchester Posts: 5,907	F*ck Venables. Spurs are the ones who played hardball, and all the time everybody knew Berba would end up at United. If they'd sold him to us earlier, they'd have got the cash and could invested in players the needed (like a solid midfielder who'll win the ball). Shouldn't be too long before Ramos is sacked

30th September 2008, 14:29	#22 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: You cant reason with stupidity. Posts: 25,069	Blame Levy. His stubborness cost them valuable time to find the right players while the transfer window was open. They could even have got Arshavin in if they hadnt waited so long to sell us Berbatov. Levy might have got a better deal in the end but at what cost? A poor season.

30th September 2008, 15:45	#23 (permalink)
a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Little Britain Posts: 29,984	maybe we should forfeit out points and give them to Spurs, its only fair. Give Bolton the 3 points too for us being award a penalty