What Citeh fans think of Teveth

BahamaRed

From RoM




November 9th, 2009
What Do City Fans Make Of Tevez Then?

Manchester City fans were pissing themselves when the now infamous poster popped up in town. The club had forked out a small fortune to a London-based design company to come up with the slogan. Mark Hughes described it as “a bit of fun between fans”, likening it to the counter we have on the Stretford End which marks how many years the bitters have gone without a trophy. Difference is, our fans organised the counter, whilst MCFC were the ones to fork out the money with the sole intention of winding United fans up, and they wonder why Ferguson calls them a small club with a small club mentality?
Regardless, “Tevez 32″ was the name and number to have on this season’s City shirt whilst some of their fans camped out on this blog for a few weeks. The message we repeated was the same: we wanted him to stay because he worked his arse off but he didn’t have the quality you expect from a £25m player and we trusted the manager he’d made the right decision. We were told that was sour grapes and that he was world class.
Do they still think the same?

My friend sent me a link to the most popular Manchester City forum, Blue Moon, after he’d stumbled across it and got quite a laugh out of it. With fans of rival clubs always coming on here having a go, I tend to steer clear of other club’s forums and blogs, but this really is worth a read if you need a bit of cheering up. Was it £47m well spent?
- Poor mans Dickov!
- It seems everyone rates him because he runs around a lot. He’s a poor finisher, if he’d have put that one away today we would have won. He cost millions but looks like he’s worth thousands.
- His shooting makes vassell look like pele
- Carlos Tevez is very overrated and never worth the money we’ve spent on him, he scored a few crackers at United but thats about it. He’s a good squad player, nothing more. Ferguson was laughing when he got rid of him and his sulking on the bench.
- I’d have put that chance he had today in that he ballooned over from 3 yards.
- It was funny to wind up the rags when we got Tevez, but fuck me he’s turning in to a monumental embarrassment. Has done fuck all for ages! Think we should just bite the bullet and get rid tbh. embarrassing.
- I have to say how bad his first touch actually is has really surprised me.
- tevez isn’t as good as people actually think, if we haden’t of got him from the rags no one would of gone on about him as much.
- He looks so poor that even the clueless will pick up on the fact he is not that good soon enough.
- Tevez isn’t, wasn’t and never will be a £30m player. He has yet to justify buying him never mind his price tag.
- I want my strikers to offer a goal threat – i’m not that arsed if they turn the odd certain goal kick into a throw in.
- Workrate=great, quality=zero. Has to improve drastically because on what I’ve seen so far we’ve signed a £25mill Dickov.
And my favourite…
- fergie knew what he was doing when he let him go, we are a fucking joke!


Sound familiar?

Maroon Lucifer

TonyMontana

He was great for us anyway.

Solius

Not in his final season, 5 league goals was it? Awful return.

Bread

God that was pleasant reading that

Grinner

Just wait till Adebayor starts acting the cunt!

olesmyhero

Has that not already happened?

Grinner

Only on the pitch.

BahamaRed

Trying to think of a better word....anyone help?

iPete

Raven_Blade

I really like this. I wanted Tevez to stay but I could fully understand the reservations Sir Alex had about his valuation. Looks like he is being proved right on this one.

Allforone

Took em longer than i expected to be fair....

roodboy

I was wondering how long it would take them to twig that they bought a lemon

BahamaRed

United fans loved Tevez cos he was entertaining. He brought a smile to our faces with some of his crazy antics and his constant running about. Occasionally scoring an important goal. The fact that we won 3 titles in row certainly wasn't because of him although many opposition fans don't understand that.
On the other hand City fans do not know what 'to be entertained' means. They only want goals and to win.
Different mentality.

mr.suave

He's a very good player, but he just doesn't carry enough of a goal threat.

If he had an extra yard of pace and was more composed with his finishing he'd be one of the best forwards in the world. He's still a good player, mind.

He was overrated on this forum a couple of months ago, now everyone's saying he's shit. You can't have your cake and eat it too, lads. Show some class.

BahamaRed

He's a top class cnut.

Grinner

Any average player can look good with Rooney, Ronaldo and the Utd midfield around him.

Not so much with Gareth Barry and SWP.

Younited.7

There must be a few threads worth digging up on the subject of Tevez...

mr.suave

Oh, I agree.

But United fans come across as dickheads when they start saying he's a shit player just a matter of months after joining in with the "Fergie sign him up" chants.

MrMarcello

In patches he was. He was also non-existant in plenty of matches, save his "work rate" but who wants a forward to be better known for defending?

City paid a ransom for the Argentinian equivalent of Ji-Sung Park.

BahamaRed

We wanted him cos he was entertaining not because he was a great player. As I mentioned above City fans can't appreciate that.

roodboy

I never wanted him to stay and certainly never joined in with that chant - was glad to see the back of him - he was always an average player, Owen is better.

Younited.7

Clues...

All Tevez comments in HERE

Younited.7

BahamaRed:

"Fergie's first big mistake - selling Jip Jap
Fergie's second big mistake - letting Teveth go"

Act in haste, repent at leisure.



(sorry, i had to do it)

Scoreboard Red

He was a great player for United, your view is tainted along with that of many other Reds who choose to forget his contribution and his subsequent overlooking in favour of Berbatov. You try playing a season with no confidence from your manager after being dropped and given the odd game here and there with mainly substitute appearances.

BahamaRed

Fergie knows better than me? Well that's reassuring. I liked Tevez, the cnut.

Younited.7

He was good but never great.

Ronaldo was great.

I don't think you can point to the confidence issue either: Tevez has never been technically that good. That's the argument made by Ferguson and us wee empricists anyway.

KOV

just think of the players we would have brought if the muppets on here got their way

surely we would have been relegated years ago Thank fuk we have SAF in charge of transfers !

Younited.7

Thou shalt not worship false idols (or question Fergus - unless it's about midfield selection).

Brwned

How is that in anyway relevant to this thread?

Sir Alex almost signed Tevez. He would be here if Tevez accepted the offer.

BahamaRed

and we have so much to thank the Gods for.

mr.suave

Yeah I suppose you're right in a way.

Still, United fans admired his work ethic more than anything, but we also loved him for his decisive goals and occasional touches of class. If it was simply about workrate I reckon I could pull the United shirt on, launch my head at balls destined for a throw in and have a good shout at becoming a fan favourite.

Tevez isn't average, he's clearly a good player, but wasn't worth what Kia whathisface was asking for him. Unfortunately for him, Berbatov and Rooney are both better players and provide a more balanced attacking lineup. He wasn't willing to sit on the bench and we weren't willing to splash the cash. But that doesn't mean he's shit, under a different system he'd easily be good enough to play for United.

Great Hat

Hehe. Looks like they've realised that despite his endeavour and harrying, Tevez isn't worth the money they paid for him; and that the fact they bought him from us doesn't necessarily make him a City legend.

Tbh most of the comments quoted from Blue Moon are fairly realistic, even if some are a bit hyperbolic. It's clearly not as deluded as some of the player-backing on RAWK, for example.

'Poor man's Dickov'.

Scoreboard Red

Ronaldo was extremely great, I think now you're putting categories on these footballers as if they fit into Box 1, 2 or 3. They don't, each individual is exactly that, Rooney is great (in my opinion) but not at the level Ronaldo was for us 2006-09, but then few have, Ronaldo was probably only below Best, Law, Cantona in those stakes, yet there have been many other great players for United.
And in those, I would say Tevez was a great player for us, as exeplified in the 2007/08 season where his performances, goals and contributions were very telling and again, I claim that your opinion of him is tainted by the fact he has moved to City and also there was a lot of dispute over him and Berbatov last season.
And this technical business, what's that about? Does that mean because he can't trap a ball like Berbatov he is no good?
What a lot of bollocks, one of our best ever players in recent years was Roy Keane who was as technically gifted as a bag of potatoes but his tenacity and determination made him a great player, not fancy fairy footwork or the baility to curl a ball onto a ten pence piece from fifty yards like Beckham could.
Sure, there are many technically gifted players out there but look at Lineker for example, he couldn't pull tricks or score volleys from thirty yards like Rooney, but he could score goals and that's what made him great.
One of the best strikers of the modern era, Christian Vieiri, was as skilful as a donkey but he scored, scored, scored because he only had that in his head to, nothing else. But he was technically shite.
If you think Tevez is technically crap, I would look at his goals again mate, youtube being your best bet, there will be compilations of his goals and skill for Boca, Corinthians, West Ham, United, City and Argentina - I think you'll find a very technically talented footballer what you seem to have forgot.

KOV

i know its not relevant but i could probably find a million posts on the caf that are not relevant to the original thread..

yea tevez would have been here but SAF was never going to pay over the odds and he scoffed when it was suggested tevez possily cost shitty 47 million pounds..

MUFC07

Damn me, you've got the best username.

Younited.7

That's just a rant outlining a general point, but not exactly a relevant one. I've always seen his limitation so don't presume the originations of my argument or put ideas in my mouth, words in my brain, words in my mouth or ideas in my brain. I said that he wasn't that good in the thread, and that he was a cunt. Both true.

To paraphrase myself: "technically not that good" - not shit, or awful, or anything. Tevez is clearly not a Vieri, not a midfielder (re: Roy Keane) and certainly not a Lineker. He's a drunk Wayne Rooney. Relative to other very good or great technicians, he is average.

The occasional stonker doesn't hide his general ineptitude to play for a top club.

What you have said is:

(a) Technically average players can be great and vice verse.

How does this relate to point (b)?

(b) That Tevez is technically excellent, or very good.

Relatively, he isn't. And when concerning matters of football, everything is relative.

They're two different angles you have assumed. You have effectively said that it doesn't matter if he isn't technically great but that he was technically very good. I don't really understand what i should be concluding from this.

Scoreboard Red

Let's get this right; Tevez didn't turn down the chance to sign for Man United, Tevez turned us down because he didn't want to play second fiddle, rightly or wrongly, to Berbatov which was ALWAYS the case.
Again, I must state as I have several times in the past that this is not Berbatov's fault, however in signing Berbatov, Ferguson then immediately promoted him to Tevez's starting spot in the side which would seem a little unfair if you were Tevez considering the season and impact he brought to the side the year before and also the starting season, he had already scored and was carrying his form into that season also.
Despite playing in Berbatov's first game versus Liverpool and scoring, Tevez was then dropped for the next dozen games, relegated to the bench in which time Berbatov failed to score in his his first six games for us - you could see the frustration.
Obviously Fergie HAD to persist with Berbatov considerign the money and effort he spent pursuing him, but my frustration then and still now is, that I cannot see what Berbatov has brought to us in the resukt sense that Tevez could not.
I have heard countless times from Reds that he brings us something different as Tevez and Rooney are so similar, that statement should be amended to he COULD bring us something different if he was consistent but he's not, and ultimately I wouldn't class Berbatov as anything more than decidely average and those who disagree need only look to the big games in April and May last year when he was dropped from the side with Ferguson preferring Park Ji Sung to Berbatov.
If we never bought him, who knews but in my opinion, I would hazard a massive guess that Tevez would have had a decisively more succesful season personally than he did if we hadn't bought Berbatov and in fact I would go so far as to say a more succesful season that Berbatov eventually had for us, but people cannot admit this despite it being very relevant and very likely considering the facts....

Scoreboard Red

What the fuck you on about mate?

Younited.7

His performances in 07/08 are remembered with a confirmation bias. . . he wasn't that good for large parts and big games. Berbatov was a necessity, considering how shy our frontline was, and the victim card doesn't really hold water in Tevez's case. He had plenty of opportunities in the run-up to Christmas, but he still couldn't do it consistently.

This is clearly not about Tevez, for you, it's about Berbatov. Which kind of precludes any reasoning within your previous posts.

Basically, you ain't making much sense Magyver.

Are you KingLaw, by any chance?