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Whatever Happened to Mendieta?

A Good article on one of the most reverred players in Europe at the turn of the century who fell spectacularly from grace very quickly, ending up at Middlesbrough;


As the cream of Europe do battle once more this week, a man who twice inspired his team to the Champions League final will be nothing more than an interested spectator.

In 2000 and 2001, unfashionable Valencia - driven forward by their brilliant midfield general Gaizka Mendieta - reached the final of the world's premier club competition, only to suffer defeat both times.

Unfortunately for Mendieta, the defining moment of his career occurred 58 days after that second final - and it did not even take place on the football field.

That summer, aged 27, he was on top of the world - having shone on the European stage he had twice been named European midfielder of the season and was also a regular in the Spanish national side. He seemed destined for a career at the top of the game.



Then Mendieta's world turned upside down. On 19 July, free-spending Italian giants Lazio handed Valencia a cheque for £29m to make him the most expensive Spanish player and sixth costliest footballer of all time.


In an instant, Mendieta had gone from being the quiet, unassuming, driving force behind Los Che's remarkable rise to one of the most recognisable faces in football.

But the move did not work out and his career never again reached the same heady heights of those stellar years at the Estadio Mestalla.

In 2003, Mendieta joined Middlesbrough and another three years down the line he was out of the game altogether after an acrimonious exit from the Riverside that resulted in him training with the reserves during his last season in the north-east.

"Italy was difficult for me," Mendieta, who has been out of the game since leaving Boro in May 2008, told BBC Sport. "I never felt I got any continuity there, any chance to settle into a routine.

"I just didn't play that many games, didn't get that many chances and it was hard, very hard, especially after where I had come from."

So, did the size of the transfer fee and the veritable array of riches thrown his way by Lazio and their financially extravagant owner Sergio Cragnotti prove too much for the boy from Bilbao?

"Honestly, I never thought too much about the transfer fee," he said without a moment's hesitation. "I just saw it as a challenge professionally - going to Italy and trying to succeed in their football.

"I never thought about how much I cost but now, when I look back, obviously, yes, there was an awful lot of money involved in the deal. Nowadays we see it quite often but not so much then.

"It's a shame that there were problems at Lazio - problems with the president, with the changing of managers, there was just a lot of stuff going on."


It was the very opposite to the life Mendieta had enjoyed during his nine years as a Valencia player.

Managers came and went at the Spanish club, with Guus Hiddink, Luis Aragones, Carlos Alberto Parreira, Claudio Ranieri and Hector Cuper all having a spell in the hot seat, but the core playing staff remained largely intact and the group was allowed to flower and then flourish together.

It is an experience even now, a decade on, that Mendieta is most grateful for, providing him not only with the highlights of his career but also the opportunity to spread his wings and experience life away from La Liga.

"It took a while to build that team up," he recalled. "Getting the right players takes time and once they were there a lot of them stayed for quite a few seasons - even after I left they went and won the league and the Uefa Cup.

"For a lot of the players it was the best moment in their careers. We believed in something, believed we could create something, and when you have that belief in sport you feel you are capable of anything.

"I look back now and I am thrilled at how much I achieved. When I started to play football I never dreamed I could reach the level I got to."

When Mendieta got the chance to ply his trade in English football it caused quite a stir both at home and abroad.

Only two years after joining Lazio, the midfielder was swapping the high life in the Italian capital for the north-east of England, arriving at Middlesbrough on a season-long loan deal - a move that was to be made permanent in July 2004.



Mendieta, who had spent the season before on loan at Barcelona, had the chance to move back to Spain but instead made the remarkable decision to join Steve McClaren's Riverside revolution.

For a while it was an inspired choice as Boro enjoyed the most successful period in their history, before things took a turn for the worse when McClaren left to become England boss in 2006 and Gareth Southgate, who had played alongside Mendieta for two years, became Boro manager.

"The first couple of seasons were fantastic," stated Mendieta. "We won the Carling Cup, played in a Uefa Cup final, were involved in European competition for two years - it was thoroughly enjoyable.

"I enjoyed English football and though I picked up some injuries I have great memories of those times with Middlesbrough.

"But somewhere down the line, something went wrong. In my last season I didn't play any games at all and they wanted me to leave, that was very clear.

"I feel I wasn't treated properly by the club or by the manager. It wasn't a nice situation to be in and unfortunately we could never get to a point where we sorted it out."

Having played for some of Europe's biggest clubs and illuminated the greatest stages in his sport, Mendieta's career was to end in an unsavoury manner.

He featured in only eight games under Southgate's stewardship and suffered the ignominy of being hauled off at half-time on his last appearance as a professional footballer - the 0-0 Boxing Day draw at Everton in 2006.



But, despite an unsatisfactory conclusion to his spell on Teesside and calling time on his career in his early 30s, Mendieta has no regrets.

"When I was younger I was involved in athletics, and I only started playing football properly when I was 14 or 15," he revealed.

"I never thought I'd make it. I guess you never do until you are actually there - even when I joined Valencia from Castellon as a kid I thought it would be very difficult.

"You know how much kids dream of just being a footballer, and I got to play in La Liga, Serie A, the Premier League, the Champions League and the World Cup, as well as winning titles.

"I have played in a Roma-Lazio derby, in a Barcelona-Real Madrid match and they are the greatest games you can play in football, they have given me some incredible memories.

"Because of this, I can't regret anything that's happened."

Even the last two years at Middlesbrough were not a total write-off - Mendieta fell in love with the area and still lives with his partner Helen in Yarm, less than 10 miles away from the Riverside.

"I love the people, I love living in the area and I'm not ready to go back to Spain yet," said the 35-year-old.

"I haven't thought about a return to football but it is one of those things where you can never say never.

"I love the game and everything to do with it and even if I can see how difficult it would be, a part of me can see the excitement and challenge of being a manager, definitely."

Football may not have seen the last of Gaizka Mendieta.


GAIZKA MENDIETA ZABALA
Born: 27 March, 1974, Bilbao
Clubs: Castellon (1991-92), Valencia (1992-2001), Lazio (2001-04), Barcelona (2002-03, loan), Middlesbrough (2003-04, loan, and 2004-08)
Spain: 40 caps, eight goals

BBC SPORT | Football | Europe | What became of Gaizka Mendieta?
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Cheers for this Scoreboard, you forget about these guys after awhile and when the questions come up and the answers are as depthful as provided, it's very nostalgic.

I remember the Galaxy drama as well after Boro, really the last of all i've heard from him.
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That's not Mendieta, that's Albelda ya donk
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That's not Mendieta, that's Albelda ya donk
Fuck, it is too, I quickly Google Imaged it and copied and pasted it without really looking, put up a pic of Mendy for us then.........
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Cracking player for Valencia though.

Surprised to hear he settled with a northern lass and still lives in the Middlesborough area.

Good article Johnno.
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Cracking player for Valencia though.

Surprised to hear he settled with a northern lass and still lives in the Middlesborough area.

Good article Johnno.
One thing I shall never forget in around 1997; we were linked with big money moves for Marcelo Salas, Patrick Kluivert and chiefly Alen Boksic who was seen as one of Europe's elite forwards back then. He was quoted as saying "why would I leave Italy for a place like Manchester? Here, my children can play all day in the sun."
Fast forward a few seasons with United having overtook Juventus as best team in Europe and Boksic was plying his trade in sunny.....erm, Middlesbrough.
To be fair on Boro, they managed some transfer coups in Boksic, Mendieta and Christian Karembeau, French World Cup winner of course and a damn fine midfielder with an even finer wife in Adriana (winder what she thought of the North-East?).
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Class article. There's a few big talents from that era who disappeared off the radar very quickly. Claudio Lopez went to shite at basically the same time as Mendieta. Valeron's career slumped around that time too - he was considerably more gifted than both Mendieta and Lopez imo. Diego Tristan's another one. I can't believe Mendieta still lives in fucking Middlesborough.
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Class article. There's a few big talents from that era who disappeared off the radar very quickly. Claudio Lopez went to shite at basically the same time as Mendieta. Valeron's career slumped around that time too - he was considerably more gifted than both Mendieta and Lopez imo. I can't believe Mendieta still lives in fucking Middlesborough.
Remember Diego Tristan? He was a fucking good striker too from around the 2000-2002 period, I think I remember some quote that Fergie rated him extremely highly, and he often had a good game against us as we clashed with Depor quite frequently in the CL matches in those days.
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Remember Diego Tristan? He was a fucking good striker too from around the 2000-2002 period, I think I remember some quote that Fergie rated him extremely highly, and he often had a good game against us as we clashed with Depor quite frequently in the CL matches in those days.
Yeah of course. diego tristan, put it a horror tackle on beckham in our quarterfinal CL clash with depor in the 1st leg, before the dunno-whats-his-name argentine finishing the job on beckham's metatarsal in the 2nd leg at OT...

Metatarsal was the trend in those days, beckham and neville both got it in that season..
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Remember Diego Tristan? He was a fucking good striker too from around the 2000-2002 period, I think I remember some quote that Fergie rated him extremely highly, and he often had a good game against us as we clashed with Depor quite frequently in the CL matches in those days.
FFS! Edited my post to mention Tristan as you were typing this. Yep, he looked like a top class centre forward at that stage. Strong, dangerous in the air, with great movement and finishing. That Deportivo team had some great talents back then. Apart from Tristan and Valeron, Makaay was absolutely prolific and Naybet was one of the most underrated centre backs I've seen. Great defender. Fran and Victor weren't bad either.
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Remember Diego Tristan? He was a fucking good striker too from around the 2000-2002 period, I think I remember some quote that Fergie rated him extremely highly, and he often had a good game against us as we clashed with Depor quite frequently in the CL matches in those days.
Class player he was, but a dirty cunt
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Yeah of course. diego tristan, put it a horror tackle on beckham in our quarterfinal CL clash with depor in the 1st leg, before the dunno-whats-his-name argentine finishing the job on beckham's metatarsal in the 2nd leg at OT...

Metatarsal was the trend in those days, beckham and neville both got it in that season..
The Argie was called Duscher or summat like that I think - long haired fella.
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One thing I shall never forget in around 1997; we were linked with big money moves for Marcelo Salas, Patrick Kluivert and chiefly Alen Boksic who was seen as one of Europe's elite forwards back then. He was quoted as saying "why would I leave Italy for a place like Manchester? Here, my children can play all day in the sun."
Fast forward a few seasons with United having overtook Juventus as best team in Europe and Boksic was plying his trade in sunny.....erm, Middlesbrough.
To be fair on Boro, they managed some transfer coups in Boksic, Mendieta and Christian Karembeau, French World Cup winner of course and a damn fine midfielder with an even finer wife in Adriana (winder what she thought of the North-East?).
The power of the buck. To be fair with all those big signings by Boro the players were past their best. Boksic was still quality but they were all definitely past their best with the exception probably of Juninho.
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The Argie was called Duscher or summat like that I think - long haired fella.
Aldo Duscher, we were heavily linked with him a while back;

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at some point i was really hoping we would sing him. cracking player, he never looked tired
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He was excellent at Valencia, one of the best midfielders at the time. He never found his form at Lazio though, proven by a move to Middlesbrough where he wasn't very good either.
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FFS! Edited my post to mention Tristan as you were typing this. Yep, he looked like a top class centre forward at that stage. Strong, dangerous in the air, with great movement and finishing. That Deportivo team had some great talents back then. Apart from Tristan and Valeron, Makaay was absolutely prolific and Naybet was one of the most underrated centre backs I've seen. Great defender. Fran and Victor weren't bad either.
They certainly did have an excellent team and played the best football in Europe for a couple of seasons. The 4-0 pumping of European champions Milan after losing the first leg 4-1 in 2004 was perhaps their greatest performance. It's a pity Valeron has suffered so badly with injuries because otherwise he'd be regarded as one of the very best attacking midfielders of his generation. Sid Lowe wrote a good nostalgic article on that team recently - Deportivo La Coruña grind their way back to where they once belonged | Sid Lowe | Football | guardian.co.uk

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Deportivo La Coruña grind their way back to where they once belonged
Their football isn't as super as in the days of Rivaldo and co, but Depor's cut-price squad is again surprising Spain's big boys


Miguel-Ángel Lotina paused, scratched his chin and gave in. "OK," he said, "note this down." There was a hush, broken only by the sound of furious typing from the back of the room. "Dani Aranzubia … Manuel Pablo …" A gentle giggle - yeah, we guessed that – and another pause. A pregnant one. A little moment of expectation. Friday afternoon at Abegondo and the Deportivo de La Coruña coach was preparing for his 337th game in the first division, against Sevilla at Riazor. For the first time ever, he seemed about to reveal his starting XI. And not just spit what former Deportivo coach John Benjamin Toshack spat when asked the same question many years before, declaring that his team would consist of "the same 11 arseholes as last week".

Then Lotina continued. "Naybet … Coloccini … Capdevila." More giggles. "Donato … Mauro … Djalminha … Fran." They were really laughing now. "And up front, Tristán and Makaay." A belly laugh and a shout went up: "Campeones, seguro." Champions, for sure. Lotina grinned and concluded. "Coach, Jabo [Irureta]." This Deportivo team wasn't his Deportivo team – and that was kind of the point. More giggles and another pause, a wistful one. You could almost hear the sigh. All round the room, minds were being cast back. To Rivaldo and Bebeto; to the all-conquering team that followed them; to wonderful victories against Milan and Manchester United; to that match with PSG, when, 3-0 down just before the hour, they won 4-3; to the side they called Super Depor.

Ah, Super Depor! Those were the days. The days when Deportivo de La Coruña were arguably the best side in Spain, ranked fourth in the world. Rescued from relegation to the Second Division B by a 94th-minute goal, rescued from disappearance by Augusto César Lendoiro, president of the local roller-hockey team, the club with just 5,000 members in a city of only 230,000 and a 500m pesetas debt had somehow won the league title in 1999-2000, six years after they really should have won it only for Miroslav Djukic to miss a penalty in the final minute of the final match. In five years they won a league title, never slipped out of the top three, reached the Champions League semis and became half the country's favourite side by beating Real Madrid 2-1 in the Copa del Rey. At the Santiago Bernabéu. On Madrid's 100th birthday.

It had all been so much fun. Deportivo's fans packing the Bernabéu's north stand singing "happy birthday to you". Djalminha doing things you've never seen a player do. Like nutting his coach. Romero taming a snake at Pamplona airport – and pulling out of the squad after the bugger bit him. Tristán shrugging "what do you want, a footballer or a monk?" when potential buyers Madrid worried about his off-field habits. And above all, the wonderful, neat, flowing football, the width and precision. Donato's roly-poly brilliance. Valerón playing in slow motion as defenders slid by like cartoon characters off a cliff. Tristán and Makaay, Pichichis both. Naybet striding out. Mauro Silva, the original Makelele and still the best. A side it was impossible to dislike. Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end.

Only they did. Shockingly quickly. Shockingly comprehensively. It's only five years since La Coruña was decked out in blue and white, ready for that semi-final with Porto, the greatest moment in the club's history that became its greatest regret. And yet it already feels like it belongs to another age. When José Mourinho's (frankly horrible) side knocked Depor out, something died. The squad was getting older, tired. By the following season, 2004-05, you could feel the boredom; it was the end of an era. Deportivo finished eighth.

Worse still, there was no longer any investment. People were wondering where the money had gone. In fact, they started to wonder where it had come from in the first place; how Depor had been able to sign so many stars, becoming the first club to ever field an all-foreign team. They would never sign them again. Lendoiro admitted that Depor had made mistakes in not selling some of their big names; it was time, he said, to "get used to a different Depor". A not very good Depor. After seven years, coach Jabo Irureta departed. Under Joaquín Caparrós, they finished eighth again. Forget Super Depor, it was time for Baby Depor – the positive spin put on a worrying financial reality. It was time to buy kids. Cheap kids. Not especially good kids. They finished 13th and Caparrós left, frustrated.

Halfway through the 2007-2008 season, Valerón finally returned from two years of injuries but Depor were still in desperate trouble. The saying goes that Galicians are so inscrutable that if you see them on the stairs you don't know if they're going up or down; these gallegos were definitely going down. In week 20 they were five points from safety and over €130m in debt. Relegation and administration beckoned. For Lotina, so too did the sack. For the first time in over a decade, since he fired Toshack, Lendoiro prepared his axe. He spoke to Mané about taking over. Tellingly, in one interview in early 2008, Valerón spoke about Lotina in the past tense, as if he had already gone, describing him as "a hard-working and honest man to whom I wish all the best". Players texted asking when he would leave, not if.

But then something changed. The formation, for a start. Lotina, a coach who, despite an entertainingly dry sense of humour, has always been dismissed as a crashing dullard, turned to a five-man defence and Depor recovered. In the second half of the season, only one side conceded fewer goals, Depor picked up 11 victories and they finished ninth. Last season, they ended up seventh. Or top of what some dubbed the "other" league, behind Barcelona, Madrid, Sevilla, Atlético, Valencia, and Villarreal – clubs whose budgets dwarf the rest. But if that was impressive, this season's campaign is proving even more miraculous. Their budget cut by 10% each season, according to Lendoiro – who has done the classic capitalists' trick of suddenly bemoaning the lack of government intervention now that he needs it – Depor are operating on a "war economy". "We'll sell everything except the Hercules Tower," he says. And that's only because the city's 2,000-year-old lighthouse isn't his to sell.

Verdú left because Depor could not compete with Espanyol. Canadian captain Julián De Guzman departed because Depor couldn't pay him – and he didn't even want much. Cristián, Pablo Amo, and Barragán followed him out. They turned down over €15m from Barcelona for full-back Felipe Luis but only because they thought they'd get more and now they're kicking themselves. They only signed two players and both of those – Juca and Brayan Angulo - cost nothing. They missed out on Miguel de las Cuevas, Manuel Arana and Jordi Pablo to Sporting Gijón, Racing Santander and Málaga – hardly giants of the Spanish game. And amidst a legal battle, last season's top scorer Ángel Lafita left for Zaragoza.

And yet on Saturday night Deportivo de La Coruña moved into third with a 1-0 win over a Sevilla side that had been considered genuine title contenders after their win over Real Madrid a fortnight ago. The result left Marca gloating: "Lotina clips Sevilla's wings" as the Depor boss sang "je te plumerai". Depor are unlikely to stay in a Champions League place – in fact it's hard to avoid the feeling that it'd be a little depressing if they do – but it is the first time they've done so this far into the season since 2003-04. The first time since they were Super Depor in 2003-2004.

"We're not up there because we're a delicatessen," Lotina admitted. "The secret to our success is solidarity; we go out on to the pitch thinking about fighting for every ball; if we go out there thinking about playing we'll get beaten. We're not Super Depor." They're certainly not. Delicatessen? Depor are more like the blokes who hang around Spanish street corners on Saturday nights selling ropey jamón sandwiches. They could hardly be more different to Irureta's side. Watching them can leave you wanting to rinse your eyes. With sulphuric acid. As Marca put it: "They don't sing you ballads in the moon light." Hell, they don't even get drunk, stumble over, spill your drink and lean into you shout "awight darlin'?", drenching your ear in spit as they do so. But there's no arguing with their results.

The new slogan adopted by one Spanish television station for their coverage is "this is football!". At half-time on Saturday evening, one bewildered commentator emerged from his booth moaning: "My God, I'm lying through my teeth in there." Victory came thanks to an absolute rocket from Juan Rodríguez out of nothing in a game with few chances, in which Depor denied their opponents space and waited for their opportunity. Victory came, in short, the same way it always does. Depor have now won five times this season, four of them 1-0. Against Málaga, a Filipe rocket from miles away and out of nothing won it for them; against Villarreal, goalkeeper Dani Aranzubia kept them in it and a Juca free-kick won it; against Tenerife, a header from a corner did the trick; against Xerez they managed to score three – thanks to two set plays and an own goal. They may not be very Super any more and it may not last for very long, but Depor are back where they once belonged.
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that fucker broke Irwins ankle I think
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He was indeed, douche-bag.. Beckham was never the same after that incident.
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that fucker broke Irwins ankle I think
Wasn't that a Dutch or Belgian fella ?

Bosfelt ? Something like that.
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I was really hoping for a lot more from that article. I've always wanted some sort of in depth explanation for how Mendietta went from being one of the best in the world to being on the outer at Middlesbrough.

That article didn't really tell me anything I couldn't have learned from wikipedia.
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My mate and I had a theory ( after pints one night ) that the more hair he lost the poorer of a player he became. He had full flowing blonde locks with Valencia but by the end at Boro he was bordering on a combover. Must have been the reason he became shit. I think probably the best game for Boro was against United that time they stuffed us and he also scored a peno against Ireland to knockus out of the wold cup, so he's a twat in my book :-)
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Mendieta lambasts Middlesbrough booze culture!
2009-11-18 - Added by ExtraFootie
Former Spain international Gaizka Mendieta has criticised the British booze culture which dampened his Middlesbrough experience during his five year stint at the Riverside Stadium.

The retired 35-year-old midfielder revealed the problems began to surface after the departure of Steve McClaren and the appointment of Gareth Southgate.

"My first two or three years at the club were very good. We won a trophy and got to the UEFA Cup final," he told the Daily Mail.

"But everything went wrong once Steve McClaren left and Gareth Southgate replaced him as manager."

Mendieta, capped 40 times by Spain, has admitted his astonishment at the way alcohol was nonchalantly consumed to an enormous effect at the club even when the players should be training!

"At Middlesbrough the beer used to flow in the dressing-room the moment matches were over.

The following day the players were supposed to work on their recovery but instead they'd just have a coffee and then get back on the booze once more."

The news will incense Boro fans who now find their beloved club dwindling in the Championship following relegation from the Premier League last season.

Mendieta expanded on his analysis to reveal the poor approach to dieting which was endorsed at the club and admitted that his pleas to change their habits fell on deaf ears.

"They used to eat Mars bars and chocolates, and when I said something about it they'd fire back, claiming it was to give them energy. You could say that there was a clash of attitudes between me and them."
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Old 19th November 2009, 10:07   #26 (permalink)
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On the topic of the Depor tem, suprised no-one metioned Djalminha class player bad attitude tho
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Old 19th November 2009, 11:13   #27 (permalink)
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Deportico La Coruna: Classist player = Juan Valeron (the Paul Scholes) of their team. Maybe he's stil in the game
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