Dentists

Christofaux

Are money grabbing bastards...

going to cost me 320 Australian dollars (works out to be about 3 of your pounds) for the first of 3 40 minute visits for a root canal. I told them to make appointments in the morning or afternoon so they put it at 10:50... spastics some people need to work to pay these rediculous fees.

Johnno

Shoulda brushed your teeth you Shire hillbobby

Christofaux

lol, more like i shouldnt of run into a mirror in a funhouse at schoolies 5 years ago. I had a root canal done then and the other one has finally died.

Wibble

3 pounds? That is cheap.

Christofaux

not when its 2 days wages.

December_16

You're in Australia, not Somali


Or are they the same country?

UnitedRed

Somali isn't a country.

RandomHer0723

You are obviously an anti-dentite bastard

Alex

Dentists are cunts and they often reject Medicare and Medicaid

Wibble

I was suggesting that perhps you had your excahnge rate a little wrong.

A$320 is about 130 pounds (or about 160 pounds a weeks or two ago)

Cali Red

You need to ask for a raise.

Alex

He is doing quite well considering it is McDonalds

Cali Red

Must be the district manager then.

Christofaux

yeah i know... i was playing as well

Christofaux

at my age what im getting is about right.

Cali Red

It was a poor attempt at a joke.

mjs020294

Dentist are well paid but they train longer than doctors in most cases. They have a building, equipment, loans, insurance, electric, and staff to pay for out of that $320.

Lets say $160 goes to the practice, and the dentist pockets $160 for the 40 minutes work. That is $240 AUS a hour, which is only abut 80 quid. I know lots of people earning that sort of money, and most have a four year degree at the most.

Alex

4 years undergrad
4 years med school
1 years internship
2 years internal medicine residency
3 years GI fellowship

= 14 years, even experimental orthodontists arent in school/training that long, and it's not like that is as long as a neurosurgeon, etc

Alex

Funny how your standardized health care doesnt include dental mjs. People underestimate the importance of dental care, it is excellent.

mjs020294

Alex - My wife is an ER doctor and our next door neighbor is a dentist. The neighbor did two years more training than my wife.

Alex

Congrats to you, ER docs have it pretty well, what is it a one year internship and two year residency. Cool schedules too. I still stand by my posts dentists are greedy mofos who often reject insurance and federal aid

mjs020294

Unfortunately the same can be said for doctors, especially in America.

Wibble

Bugger.

Alex

That is true, they tend to be more an exception and the dentists more a rule

mjs020294

Something you seem to forget on a regular basis is this is a British website. In the UK it used to be a four year medical degree, then straight to post graduate training/internship:

4 years Degree
Year 1: Pre-registration house officer (PRHO) - one year
Year 2 & 3: Senior house officer (SHO)
Year 4: GP registrar

They are technically doctors through out that four year training period, and many make the move to GP and never train again.

Dentists do a four year degree and four years post graduate training. Many go onto to do specialist training after that.

Alex

You live in the States though, that's amazing how it only takes 4 years to become a GP in Britain

mjs020294

Being an house officer is brutal. That four years exposes them to a hell of a lot of things. Seventy plus hours a week are the norm, and they have studying on top of that.

My wife has worked with doctors from many countries: Australia, India, South African, France, Spain, New Zealand, and of course America. She doesn't rate the American doctors that highly. The American system relies heavily on technology, i.e scans and tests, and the doctors instincts are below par.

BTW - she reckons if you have to be stranded on a desert Island with one nationality it would be the South African doctors.

Alex

Yeah actually that is one thing that has improved with standardized medicine over the year, since insurance doesnt like paying for the CTs, etc. American physicians have had to return to the physical exam, this would change if the government was paying for it all, which is good for radiology. There is no doubt there are some shit docs(really shit ones, a surgical resident at an institution i wont name was arrested for dealing coke)over here but most of them are very very good, especially the new breed. It has become ultra fucking competitive just to get into med school these days. One thing I know if money wasnt an option and I could pick my specialists I probably would be hard pressed to find a better option outside the US, the technology comes with benefits as well.