Adebayor

Brwned

4 times as much? Bollocks. Our wage structure is very well dealt with, adebayor is asking for far too much after one good season.

devilish

I disagree.

Dont forget that Arsenal's situation is different from ours. Players are leaving them like rats from a sinking ship. Lehmann is gone, Flamini too, Hleb is knocking the door to leave and Adebayor may end up leaving too.

I cant see Hargreaves leaving for a club playing in the UEFA next year and you?

Brwned

Drogba, Adebayor and plenty of others would be happy to go to Milan and Ribery, Toni etc. were happy to go to Bayern Munich.

Bottom line is Wenger showed plenty of faith in Adebayor even though he had a terrible first one and a half season and was never even that good in France. He took the risk on him and Adebayor is going to repay him by leaving after under 3 years.

anything about now

Well this time Wenger really is blind for not seeing Adebayor to be the cunt that he really is. He lies out of his teeth on a regular basis, he has an incredible ego on the pitch before he even finished his one 'good' season and he attacked his teammate when they were losing.

KeyserSoze

Spot on. I remember watchin him at Monaco and thinking he was terrible he owes a lot to Wenger no doubt. All this talk of him wanting Henry money because he is replacement based one one great season is strange as well. Henry had produced for much longer before he got £120,000, he should stay where he is and find a reasonable compromise in my opinion.

devilish

Everyone seem happy to go to AC Milan but no one seem going there. The thing is that at the end of the day not playing in the CL is a big minus and yet, Arsenal players seem preferring to go to AC Milan rather then remain with Arsenal. Flamini left and Adebayor may end up joining him too.

I believe that to keep a player happy you have to give him 2 things. Money, and Success. You prove the former by paying your players well and you prove the latter by bringing in good players capable of making you compete at the highest levels. Now Arsenal had failed to do that for years now. If things remain as they are now, even Spurs may end up beating them at the EPL's pecking order.

I dont applaud what Adebayor is currently doing but there again if you're not capable to bring success and you are not ready to pay top dollar then players will leave. Rooney did so and it was the club he played for since he was 13. Ronaldo's case is different. You have a player there who is part of the strongest team in Europe and who is paid at top dollar. What does he want more?

neno

Is he really on 30k a week right now? No wonder he wants to leave. Mikael Silvestre and John Oshea earn more... Is this true Gooners?

"It was revealed earlier this week that Adebayor is demanding a whopping 400 per cent pay-rise, which would see his weekly wage increase from ₤30,000 to ₤120,000."

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=755661

peterstorey

He's on about £35K a week which represents about what he was worth in June 2007 when he signed the 4 year contract. He's clearly worth a lot more now and Wenger has a policy of paying people what they're worth (but not silly money).

cesc's_mullet

So by one, you mean all?

Interesting. In that case it looks like all your players are leaving for greener pastures over Madrid way.

cesc's_mullet

Personally I think if he did actually come out and say all that he needs a good hard fucking look at himself.

Thierry Henry is a legend of the Premier League and probably our greatest ever player. He's a world reknowned, admired, recognised and appreciated player. Not only has he won things, he was a massive contributor in us doing so - the catalyst even.

Then we have Adebayor. He's had one good season, a season where he was the sole focus of our forward thrusts for the majority of the said season. I think 50-55k would be perfect for someone of his standing.

Have a look at Ashley Cole for example, though obviously in the end he was a bad example, but consider he was offered 55k in the new contract. He'd been at the club all his life, was the best LB in England (and one of the top few in the world) at the time. He'd endeared himself to the fans, and had been a solid contributor for years. Once again I should point out Adebayor's had one 'break out' season.

Brwned

Agreed.

Although I think Adebayor couldn't be more of a cunt for saying that, it was always going to happen some day with the current wage levels at Arsenal. If Adebayor does leave and a suitable replacement(which I can't think of at all) then there could be some rough times ahead. That's just what money does.

AttackingFlair

Couldn't agree more.

cesc's_mullet

As for us potentially losing him...

I really don't see us selling him, they'll come to a compromise and all parties should be sated for the time being. I think a performance based clause should be added as a bit of incentive - though they probably already do that.

I'd sit him down and say, if you want big Thierry money you have to prove to us you can maintain this level of performance. Set him a target, though this may lead him to becoming rather selfish.

He only signed a new contract last season, so if we do sell him it will be for top dollar. The fee's being bandied around are rather impressive it has to be said, and many of us Gooners (and observers alike) would/are tempted. Despite how he played for us last season lots of us are still undecided on whether or not Adebayor's a top talent. I feel he is, even if he doesn't reach the same heights statistic wise - he offers something extremely unique for a striker as a physical presence. I want him to stay.

Though if he keeps up with all this lip and he is sent packing; I would only be partially sad to see him leave due to his ability; but moreso to the fact we'd be losing a First Team regular whilst our other options are either on the road to recovery (Eduardo), unlucky (van Persie) or simply inexperienced (Walcott, Bendtner, Vela). I think another striker would be signed (and with the money we'd be recieving we'd sign a top line player), it would be too risky to not; expecting another few players to have break-out seasons like Ade had is simply not a viable option - especially for a side who lost the title last season due to our glaring lack of depth in certain areas.

Having said this, Wenger seems to have tremendous faith in his players and rightly so. My largest hope even though it's somewhat irrelevant in all this, is that van Persie stays fit for a whole bloody season because that lad is an absolute cracker of a player.

cesc's_mullet

Pete, do you think £50-55 would be about right?

That's a massive bump as it is. I'd like to know how much he's being offered, or will be offered compared to how much he (his agent) believes he's worth.

I'm thinking his agent's been getting into his ear over the break. Ade never struck me as a greedy person, in fact I had him pegged as a would-be loyalist of the club. Someone who'd be extremely thankful for his opportunity to play for Arsenal and under Wenger.

KeyserSoze

ARSENAL are ready to make a move for Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins — if Emmanuel Adebayor is sold.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1356124.ece

It is from a rag like the Sun though.

cesc's_mullet

I will destroy the world if Adebayor's sold and Martins is brought in.

devilish

Is it just one player that had left Arsenal lately? Lehmann is gone, Flamini who had been brilliant for you last season is gone too, Hleb wants to leave, Adebayor seems too, its not as if you're doing well lately.

Alex

youd probably better off with change to spare, Martins would suit you as he is a good finisher, the only question is well he stay fit, oh and the other one is he over 30

devilish

Alex, Martins have many strengths such as pace, workrate and attitude. Unfortunately his finishing is not one of them.

cesc's_mullet

Lehmann was finished, quite obviously. His loss with be felt at a depth issue level at most (well there and the comical value).

Long live the Mad German.

Flamini’s been covered by me many times on here. I feel it’s obviously a big for the side, luckily for us he’s a dime-a-dozen midfielder – I mean that in the sense there are other viable options available, not to mention the ones residing in our squad. Still, coupled with Diarra being sold during the season we should be looking at singing another experienced midfielder.

Adebayor doesn’t want to leave, in fact he’s stated 4 times now he wants to stay. The issue is clear, he thinks he’s worth more then he actually is. We didn’t make an exception for the likes of club legends Henry, Pires and Bergkamp. We certainly won’t be making one with him.

Thus, he may leave.

anything about now

Neither is Adebayor. Both are capable of scoring cracking goals, but Martins' attitude is far far better. If the reported figures are true then Arsenal would end up having some cash to spare as well.

devilish

Adebayor was capable to score 30 goals in 1 season. Martins will not be able to do so.

Brwned

Adebayor is a better finisher. Martins is a very erratic finisher and will score 4 goals in 3 matches and then not score again for another 3 months. He doesn't have the physical presence that sets him apart and this is a big reason why Adebayor is a vital part of their team, very few others have the strength, pace and ability he has all mixed into one.

devilish

I used to watch him regularly during his Inter's time. Martins is the fastest player there is. If he grabs the ball and he is given space then he will surely get into a dangerous position + his stamina seem endless. He isn't thaaat physically weak either.

You're right in saying that he is an erratic finisher but that is part of the problem. His main weakness is his inability of not making the most out of the chances given. He tend to suffer from the 'headless chicken' syndrome + its common for him to make silly mistakes which aren't expected from a player at his level (like leaving the ball behind etc).

If Wenger can cut Martin's weaknesses then he will have a world class player in his hands. There again the task of doing so is massive, even for someone like Wenger.

Brwned

I watch him regularly for Newcastle, that's if he gets a game. If he was good enough then he would be scoring goals for fun at Newcastle. His pace is brilliant and he has a rocket of a shot but other than that he isn't all that great.

He is still no adebayor and would not fit into Arsenal's style at all.

Longlivekeano

Adebayor to Barcelona???

"Emmanuel Adebayor has cast further doubt on his Arsenal future after revealing his interest in a move to Barcelona.


AC Milan are also pursuing the striker, who has given conflicting statements about his immediate future over recent days.

On Friday he insisted he would be staying with the Gunners before minutes later hinting he would push for a move to the San Siro in showdown talks with manager Arsene Wenger next week.

On Saturday, however, Wenger insisted he would not be seeing Adebayor - who scored 30 goals last season - having already held talks with him.

Now the 24-year-old has further muddied the waters by revealing Barca's interest which he would favour if the north London club do not meet his demands for a pay rise to a reported £120,000 a week

He told the News of the World: 'Milan are a big club but the fact they are not playing in the Champions League next season is less of a challenge.

'Barcelona have made a good financial offer and there is also the chance to play alongside great players.

'Yes, I am still under contract to Arsenal but it's up to the directors to satisfy my demands or I'll leave.

'If my good form of last season has increased my value, my employers have to take account of that.

'I have to prepare for my retirement. Even if you are not scoring fine goals and you have money, you can enjoy a happy retirement.

'The time for preparing for that moment is now.'

The former Monaco striker also believes he should be given parity with ex-team-mate Thierry Henry.

'People ask if I am asking for the same salary as Henry. That is not necessarily the question.

'But I am being considered a worthy replacement for Henry while not deserving his salary.
'The question lies on this level.'


Source:www.soccernet.com

peterstorey