Adebayor Agrees Milan Move

Brwned · 5th June 2008, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Van Nistelrooy is not the player he was, but I'll accept that in his prime for United he was very clinical. However, he was in a league of his own in that respect. I'd probably argue that Michael Owen is perhaps the only clinical striker in the PL at the moment.

The point is, Adebayor scored a shitload of goals last season (most of them in away matches, unlike homer Torres) and is definitely one of the top strikers in the world at the moment.

80% of Arsenal's chances were for Adebayor which is why he scored so much, he still missed a lot. If they played a 4-4-2 with him and Van Persie he wouldn't score as much. He plays the lone striker role well and he is physically brilliant but he still misses a fair amount of chances and that is clear to everyone.

By the way re: Van Nistelrooy 20 goals from 32 shots is pretty clinical.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Brwned

80% of Arsenal's chances were for Adebayor which is why he scored so much, he still missed a lot. If they played a 4-4-2 with him and Van Persie he wouldn't score as much. He plays the lone striker role well and he is physically brilliant but he still misses a fair amount of chances and that is clear to everyone.

By the way re: Van Nistelrooy 20 goals from 32 shots is pretty clinical.

I'm not disputing that Adebayor misses a lot. I'm saying that almost every other striker in the world does as well. If we're assessing a strikers effectiveness, we have to also look at how they occupy defenders, how involved in team play they are, how often they manage to get themselves into scoring positions (regardless of whether they score from it).

Adebayor scores very well in every category. Way above average. Exactly the reason why I think he is a better player than Torres, and one of the best in the world.

Regarding your 442 point, its largely irrelevant. No manager in his right mind would play him in a system where he wouldn't be the focal point in the attack. It would be as silly as playing him in goal.

MrMarcello · 5th June 2008, 14:05

WTF! Does this mean that cunt Drogba is staying at Chelsea?

Brwned · 5th June 2008, 14:09

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

WTF! Does this mean that cunt Drogba is staying at Chelsea?

No. He'll go to Inter and say Inter was always his true love and he never meant those things about Milan.

Decotron · 5th June 2008, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Van Nistelrooy is not the player he was, but I'll accept that in his prime for United he was very clinical. However, he was in a league of his own in that respect. I'd probably argue that Michael Owen is perhaps the only clinical striker in the PL at the moment.The point is, Adebayor scored a shitload of goals last season (most of them in away matches, unlike homer Torres) and is definitely one of the top strikers in the world at the moment.

Eduardo off arsenal is a very efficent finisher. Theres not many of then about though, we dont have one anyway.

UnofficialDevil · 5th June 2008, 15:01

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

Drogba
Rooney
Ronaldo
Eto'o
Henry
Ibrahimovic
Torres
Berbatov
Anelka
Villa

That's ten strikers just at the top of my head that MIGHT be better than Adebayor.

You forgot Huntelaar.

cesc's_mullet · 5th June 2008, 15:19

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Originally Posted by UnofficialDevil

You forgot Huntelaar.

I like jokes.

peterstorey · 5th June 2008, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Brwned

80% of Arsenal's chances were for Adebayor which is why he scored so much, he still missed a lot.

He's actually got a better shots-to-goals ratio than Henry

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Arsenal played a 4-5-1 for a large part of the season too, he plays the lone striker role very well and only Drogba and Torres can rival him in that area.

Formations does not matter. Arsenal simply create much more chances for him than Chelsea do for Drogba. Ruud would have crossed the 40 goal mark in the Arsenal team last season. Adebayor finishing ability is still up in the air.

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:41

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

He's actually got a better shots-to-goals ratio than Henry

That's simply because Henry used to try loads of shots from outside the box.

Adebayor's misses are generally sitters.

peterstorey · 5th June 2008, 15:44

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

That's simply because Henry used to try loads of shots from outside the box.

Adebayor's misses are generally sitters.

That's not really true Henry missed his fair share as they all do even RvN clinical as he was.

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:44

Couple of other points regarding dicsussion in his thread.

Adebayor's not better than Torres despite any stats with goals/away goals/assists.

Really, if you watch football regularly, it is not hard to see that Torres is another level of class.

And Owen's never been a clinical finisher. He has never been prolific. Most clinical striker in Prem today would be Santa Cruz.

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:46

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

That's not really true Henry missed his fair share as they all do even RvN clinical as he was.

Ruud's main weakness was 1v1 with keepers. He missed quite a few of those, scored that cracker at Highbury though.:P

And I don't need stats, Henry was a better finisher than Adebayor.

peterstorey · 5th June 2008, 15:47

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Adebayor's not better than Torres despite any stats with goals/away goals/assists.

Really, if you watch football regularly, it is not hard to see that Torres is another level of class. .

In common with a lot of people you seem to be talking about the Adebayor who started the season not the one who finished it. Torres might look more elegant but he's not any more effective nor does he contribute anything like as much to overall team play.

Brwned · 5th June 2008, 15:49

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Formations does not matter. Arsenal simply create much more chances for him than Chelsea do for Drogba. Ruud would have crossed the 40 goal mark in the Arsenal team last season. Adebayor finishing ability is still up in the air.

He's 24, he will obviously improve his finishing with the amount of practice he'll get.

In every other aspect he is pretty much the complete 'lead the line' striker. Just because he plays for a rival doesn't mean we shouldn't appreciate a promising player. If SAF wanted him before he had this great season, he must be good.

One thing is for sure, Arsenal without Adebayor are much weaker than Arsenal with him.

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Ruud's main weakness was 1v1 with keepers. He missed quite a few of those, scored that cracker at Highbury though.:P

And I don't need stats, Henry was a better finisher than Adebayor.

Bollocks.

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:51

Actually Adebayor that started the season was same as the one who finished it, good at leading the line and line up play but wasteful at front of the goal. He just had a purple patch in the middle of the season.

I would leave this debate by saying that he won't repeat his goal tally next season.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 5th June 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by UnofficialDevil

According to sources in Italy, Arsenal forward Emmanuel Adebayor has agreed to join AC Milan, and all that is required to complete the deal is for the Rossoneri to meet the Gunners’ €40m asking price.

€40m

Milan are well known to be in the market for a top class centre forward, and a couple of weeks ago Coach Carlo Ancelotti announced that the club would be signing one out of Samuel Eto’o, Didier Drogba, Adebayor or Amauri.

With the latter having since joined Juventus, only three of these possibilities remain, and according to sources in Italy, it is Adebayor who will be filling the gap in the Rossoneri frontline.

Adebayor has come to an agreement over personal terms to join the Diavoli, and all that is required to complete the deal is for Milan to meet Arsenal’s asking price, which is set at a cool €40m.

Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani would ideally like to lower this price, but are prepared to break the bank having recently vowed to spend big this summer.

Only a few days ago, Adebayor vowed to stay at Arsenal.

“I came to Arsenal with a mission to succeed," he explained.

"I’ve assured the gaffer Arsène Wenger I’ll stay because I believe in the team and I want to assure the fans my concentration is here. I have no reason to leave so I’ll stay to ensure that together we’ll win silverware."

Mathieu Flamini has already joined Milan on a free transfer this summer, while Aliaksandr Hleb seems almost certain to follow him out of the exit door. If Adebayor were to leave too, it would certainly be an almost irreparable blow to Arsenal ahead of the 2008/09 season.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=724190

€40m for Adebayor, when Villa is going for 24m

Trust me. That is all BS. Milan are officially in talks with Chelsea to sign Drogba and Schevchenko. So they clearly wont be needing Adebayor.

UnofficialDevil · 5th June 2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by cesc's_mullet

I like jokes.

What kind of jokes? 34 goals in 38 games jokes?

crappycraperson · 5th June 2008, 15:53

I can not believe people think Adebayor's a better finisher than Henry.

It's subjective but no one who scored 30 goals per season for three years in a row can be a poor finisher.

cesc's_mullet · 5th June 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

I can not believe people think Adebayor's a better finisher than Henry.

It's subjective but no one who scored 30 goals per season for three years in a row can be a poor finisher.

There's no way Adebayor's a better finisher then the great Theirry. Not a chance in hell.

cesc's_mullet · 5th June 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by UnofficialDevil

What kind of jokes? 34 goals in 38 games jokes?

Dutch League.

Brwned · 5th June 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by cesc's_mullet

Dutch League.

Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Van Basten, Bergkamp etc. . Don't judge the league, judge the player.

I'm not saying Huntelaar's better but the stereotype that people who come out of the Eredivise are generally shit is bollocks.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 16:29

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Couple of other points regarding dicsussion in his thread.

Adebayor's not better than Torres despite any stats with goals/away goals/assists.

Really, if you watch football regularly, it is not hard to see that Torres is another level of class.

And Owen's never been a clinical finisher. He has never been prolific. Most clinical striker in Prem today would be Santa Cruz.

Disagree with all three of your points made.

One of us is wrong.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Ruud's main weakness was 1v1 with keepers. He missed quite a few of those.

Quite a big 'main weakness' for a striker, when you think about it.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 16:32

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

In common with a lot of people you seem to be talking about the Adebayor who started the season not the one who finished it. Torres might look more elegant but he's not any more effective nor does he contribute anything like as much to overall team play.

Agreed. Seems quite obvious really.

Methinks that people are swayed by the fact that Torres has lots of fanboys, and Adebayor doesn't.

Same with Benzema. The hype about him has gone beyond a joke.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 16:33

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Actually Adebayor that started the season was same as the one who finished it, good at leading the line and line up play but wasteful at front of the goal. He just had a purple patch in the middle of the season.

I would leave this debate by saying that he won't repeat his goal tally next season.

You probably think that Rooney and Tevez are shite as well then, given the relatively wasteful seasons that both have had.

Bilbo · 5th June 2008, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Van Basten, Bergkamp etc. . Don't judge the league, judge the player.

I'm not saying Huntelaar's better but the stereotype that people who come out of the Eredivise are generally shit is bollocks.

There is still, and will always be, a question mark over a player who comes from the Dutch leagues, until they prove themselves.

Quite rightly too. Half-decent strikers can bag 30 goals over there. For every Ruud, I'll raise you a Dirk Kuyt. There are many others.

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MrMarcello First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Saha's hospital room Posts: 19,118	WTF! Does this mean that cunt Drogba is staying at Chelsea?

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crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 11,447	Couple of other points regarding dicsussion in his thread. Adebayor's not better than Torres despite any stats with goals/away goals/assists. Really, if you watch football regularly, it is not hard to see that Torres is another level of class. And Owen's never been a clinical finisher. He has never been prolific. Most clinical striker in Prem today would be Santa Cruz.

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crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 11,447	Actually Adebayor that started the season was same as the one who finished it, good at leading the line and line up play but wasteful at front of the goal. He just had a purple patch in the middle of the season. I would leave this debate by saying that he won't repeat his goal tally next season.

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crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 11,447	I can not believe people think Adebayor's a better finisher than Henry. It's subjective but no one who scored 30 goals per season for three years in a row can be a poor finisher.

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