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Heinzesight · 13th July 2009, 22:04

scored some vital goals, but he's at the right level now at City, fuck him and his dummy and his shit hair.

reddevilcanada · 13th July 2009, 22:31

Good riddance.

He makes Heinze look decent, fecking Judas. Those who booed Fergie's decision to take him off on the day we won #18 must be a bit pissed off now.

OneUnited24 · 13th July 2009, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddevilcanada

Good riddance.

He makes Heinze look decent, fecking Judas. Those who booed Fergie's decision to take him off on the day we won #18 must be a bit pissed off now.

TBF the fans only wanted to show him how much he meant to them rather than turn on SAF, I think it was unacceptable but we cant forget what he has done for the club... That said i do feel betrayed at how hes acted after he made it clear that he would be off

Feedingseagulls · 13th July 2009, 22:54

Re 'the offer'...

What Fergie said today rather matches a remark he made during the season (iirc) in which he said Tevez had been offered a 'good deal/package'. This turned out to be during a period in which Utd and Kia had reached no agreement on a purchase price (Gill still feeling the figure was 'toppy').

So the remark I'm sure I made at the time still stands... SAF may have offered personal terms to Tevez - but given that nothing was moving on the purchase itself this didn't really amount to much in terms of resolving his situation. Thus - as far as Kia/MSI were concerned, no firm offer had yet been made.

Of course, if one of the so-called journalists had had the gumption to ask if this 'offer' concerned just personal terms or whether it included matching the asked-for puchase price, we might be in a clearer situation.

Re 'money the only motive'...

The apparent ill-feeling towards SAF that Tevez seems to be expressing is not a characteristic we would expect for a money-motivated separation. IMO.

Laphroaig · 13th July 2009, 22:57

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Originally Posted by McLovin

Anyone up for this on derby day?

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Originally Posted by The Law of Denis

Oh hell yes. I'd love to see something like this happen to the git.

I've no love for the fucker myself, but encouraging to behead him is a bit over the top, I'd say. (Only slighty though.)

Olly · 13th July 2009, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Laphroaig

I've no love for the fucker myself, but encouraging to behead him is a bit over the top, I'd say. (Only slighty though.)

Legend16 · 13th July 2009, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Re 'the offer'...

What Fergie said today rather matches a remark he made during the season (iirc) in which he said Tevez had been offered a 'good deal/package'. This turned out to be during a period in which Utd and Kia had reached no agreement on a purchase price (Gill still feeling the figure was 'toppy').

So the remark I'm sure I made at the time still stands... SAF may have offered personal terms to Tevez - but given that nothing was moving on the purchase itself this didn't really amount to much in terms of resolving his situation. Thus - as far as Kia/MSI were concerned, no firm offer had yet been made.

Of course, if one of the so-called journalists had had the gumption to ask if this 'offer' concerned just personal terms or whether it included matching the asked-for puchase price, we might be in a clearer situation.

Re 'money the only motive'...

The apparent ill-feeling towards SAF that Tevez seems to be expressing is not a characteristic we would expect for a money-motivated separation. IMO.

our manager said he believes tevez had made a deal in january
he says he offered him a deal at united in feb/march
tevez did not return any call or messages our manager sent to him
the club agreed a fee and offered him terms
tevez moved to city

its not up to tevez to hold out for a transfer fee but to intimate he would accept the offer based on what our manager said to him. he didn't cos its quite obvious now he had no intention of staying. and that decision was probably made by him last january. and through the most important part of our season he played to the gallery and kept doing interviews that were distracting to our run in.

why the fuck people are still trying to defend the treacherous fucker is a mystery. it really is

MrMarcello · 13th July 2009, 23:47

Clearly a money move. I mean come on, City? Obvious. What other club was going to offer him 150k per week and pay the asking price for MSI to release him?

Can't really fault him though, from a business standpoint.

Feedingseagulls · 13th July 2009, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend16

our manager said he believes tevez had made a deal in january
he says he offered him a deal at united in feb/march
tevez did not return any call or messages our manager sent to him
the club agreed a fee and offered him terms
tevez moved to city

its not up to tevez to hold out for a transfer fee but to intimate he would accept the offer based on what our manager said to him. he didn't cos its quite obvious now he had no intention of staying. and that decision was probably made by him last january. and through the most important part of our season he played to the gallery and kept doing interviews that were distracting to our run in.

why the fuck people are still trying to defend the treacherous fucker is a mystery. it really is

If we believe Gill then the 'offer' made by Fergie would not have contained an agreed purchase price - I'm sure Tevez's 'agent' made that point clear when Tevez told him about it. Would a player go against the advice of his agent in responding to an unofficial offer? Doubt it in this case.

Fergie may think the deal was done in Jan because he gave Jan as the date of his offer (it just happens he states this offer was made on the night of one of 2 matches - that places it in Feb or March.)

As Tevez fairly recent statements clearly spell out (certainly from his account of his point of view) the relationship between player and manager broke down severely over the season - the exact state of relations at the time of the offer may be reflected in the lack of reply - given the 'partial' nature of the offer.

After a prolonged period of trying to renege on an agreed price, the club made a viable offer once it was losing Ronaldo and seemed to be trying more seriously for Tevez as a last resort.

This is merely trying to examine the likely facts of the case - not simply mounting some pro-Tevez defence.

Feedingseagulls · 13th July 2009, 23:57

Let's add this here as well...

"Checking a version of the quote [about 'shouting in Fergie's face'] gives some useful info about last season & this summer though:

Quote:

"Before Berbatov arrived in Manchester, Ferguson told me, ‘You will still be the starting striker, so be cool’. But he lied to me!

That is why I know I will not return to United. What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that - and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football."

Surely what this clearly displays is that the Tevez-SAF relationship had broken down severely (even if Tevez might be wrong in seeing SAF as the main culprit).

He felt a promise had been made and not kept (he says), we didn't want to pay a pre-agreed price and some folks said we'd made an offer when his guys were saying we hadn't - so he wasn't feeling valued or wanted. The really sad bit is that Fergie's 'lion' managed to feel so alienated and antagonistic by the time he made this statement - no matter how much of the deterioration was down to Tevez's imagination and how much down to mixed messages, procrastination, penny-pinching and last resort tactics by Utd."

Anti-Fergie remarks and actions would justify negative fan reactions though.

BahamaRed · 14th July 2009, 00:11

He's gone. History. Cnut.

olesmyhero · 14th July 2009, 00:14

Rereading those comments makes me glad we got rid(well as much as one can get rid of a player they don't own).

B Cantona · 14th July 2009, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Anti-Fergie remarks and actions would justify negative fan reactions though.

The Law of Denis · 14th July 2009, 00:17

I wish we had him to kick the crap out of Tevez during the derby.

Number7 · 14th July 2009, 00:30

He's in for a bit suprise if he thinks he'll get a good reception at Old Trafford

Legend16 · 14th July 2009, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

If we believe Gill then the 'offer' made by Fergie would not have contained an agreed purchase price - I'm sure Tevez's 'agent' made that point clear when Tevez told him about it. Would a player go against the advice of his agent in responding to an unofficial offer? Doubt it in this case.

Fergie may think the deal was done in Jan because he gave Jan as the date of his offer (it just happens he states this offer was made on the night of one of 2 matches - that places it in Feb or March.)

As Tevez fairly recent statements clearly spell out (certainly from his account of his point of view) the relationship between player and manager broke down severely over the season - the exact state of relations at the time of the offer may be reflected in the lack of reply - given the 'partial' nature of the offer.

After a prolonged period of trying to renege on an agreed price, the club made a viable offer once it was losing Ronaldo and seemed to be trying more seriously for Tevez as a last resort.

This is merely trying to examine the likely facts of the case - not simply mounting some pro-Tevez defence.

what Fergie said is that he believed Tevez had done a deal in January. Fergie offered him one in Feb March. What he is saying is that Tevez had already agreed another deal in January time and that is what Fergie believes. In other words Tevez knew he was leaving for another club last january.

the quote

"I half expected Carlos Tevez would be going a long time back," said the United boss.

"I think he maybe did a deal around January because I spoke to him and gave him an offer on the night we played Inter Milan and he never came back to me.

"I phoned him on holiday and he never got back to me and I texted him twice and he never got back to me then either, so obviously he had made his mind up a long time ago."

its not fergie gettin his timeline wrong but tellin us that the great Carlos Tevez had agreed to jump ship in january.

Legend16 · 14th July 2009, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Let's add this here as well...

"Checking a version of the quote [about 'shouting in Fergie's face'] gives some useful info about last season & this summer though:

Surely what this clearly displays is that the Tevez-SAF relationship had broken down severely (even if Tevez might be wrong in seeing SAF as the main culprit).

He felt a promise had been made and not kept (he says), we didn't want to pay a pre-agreed price and some folks said we'd made an offer when his guys were saying we hadn't - so he wasn't feeling valued or wanted. The really sad bit is that Fergie's 'lion' managed to feel so alienated and antagonistic by the time he made this statement - no matter how much of the deterioration was down to Tevez's imagination and how much down to mixed messages, procrastination, penny-pinching and last resort tactics by Utd."

Anti-Fergie remarks and actions would justify negative fan reactions though.

those some folks would now include Fergie. his guys are MSI. who do you believe?

United78 · 14th July 2009, 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamaRed

He's gone. History. Cnut.

Yeah -- says it all!

Skholesy · 14th July 2009, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend16

what Fergie said is that he believed Tevez had done a deal in January. Fergie offered him one in Feb March. What he is saying is that Tevez had already agreed another deal in January time and that is what Fergie believes. In other words Tevez knew he was leaving for another club last january.

the quote

"I half expected Carlos Tevez would be going a long time back," said the United boss.

"I think he maybe did a deal around January because I spoke to him and gave him an offer on the night we played Inter Milan and he never came back to me.

"I phoned him on holiday and he never got back to me and I texted him twice and he never got back to me then either, so obviously he had made his mind up a long time ago."

its not fergie gettin his timeline wrong but tellin us that the great Carlos Tevez had agreed to jump ship in january.

To be totally honest and fair to tevez, if he did do a deal around January with Citeh, then you have to give him credit for the way he performed in certain games, changing the game for us - examples being spurs and wigan games.

Think the slagging he gets on here is deserved for him jumping of to Citeh, but I don't think we should undermine his contribution over the past two seasons. Many would now retrospectively say he was slow, shit, just another alan smith and the like, but don't forget this same lot were the ones who wanted us to sign him.

So anyway, think him a cnut all you will for his recent comments and for joining citeh, but if anything, its still important to recognise that he did contribute quite a lot to our previous two seasons. Him turning into a scumbag doesn't change his performances and commitment whilst wearing a red shirt over the past two seasons.

sammsky1 · 14th July 2009, 01:08

where are all those Berbatov vs Tevez Threads. Please lets revisit them and expose all those numpties who defended this cu.nt.

Been following football quite a long time. Cant think of any who are more cun.tsih then Tevez. Makes Sol Cambell and Cashey Cole look like saints.

Im just so glad I never fell for it. Those of you who chanted 'sign him up' and sided with him over SAF should be ashamed of yourselves.

Walrus · 14th July 2009, 01:16

ive heard some random talk about Tevez having fallouts with his previous managers as well, before he came here, has anyone got any useful info regarding that?

Second, speaking realistically, there is nothing wrong with cheering for a player when he plays for you. We dont all have the gift of foresight, and im sure if the fans had known what was to come, they wouldnt be cheering for Tevez. Thats how life works though, hindsight is a great thing.

sammsky1 · 14th July 2009, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skholesy

Think the slagging he gets on here is deserved for him jumping of to Citeh, but I don't think we should undermine his contribution over the past two seasons. Many would now retrospectively say he was slow, shit, just another alan smith and the like, but don't forget this same lot were the ones who wanted us to sign him.

Im sorry but he contributed fuck all, certainly no more than anybody else who might have played instead of him. He gave us half a season at most; Kiko Macheda was more influential than him in 2008/9 for fuck sake!!!!

Let get this straight and right for the history books: Carlos Tevez was a 'Michael Owen' type signing for us. He came virtually free, gave SAF 2 full years to assess whether he was United class and Tevez came short ... by a long shot. We were never going to pay what he thought he was worth because he was not worth it. So not only is he only an above average footballer, but has the most suspect character to boot. There is plenty of cash floating around in football right now at Real Madrid, Manchester United, Barcelona and Chavski to name but a few.... and yet no top team wanted him.

So please lets not romanticize about what he gave us, we would have achieved everything we have done these past two years with or without this cu.nt.

Fuck off carlos you cu.nt. I don't live in Manchester these days but as your driving around, I hope the red half of the city I love so much tell you exactly what you need to be told. You are an over rated pile of crap.

shane · 14th July 2009, 01:27

CARLOS TEVEZ: My goals can capture title for Manchester City

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo....html?ITO=1490

EXCLUSIVE By Lee Clayton
Last updated at 1:01 AM on 14th July 2009

Carlos Tevez signed for Manchester City last night in a £25million transfer and insisted he can help take them to the Barclays Premier League title.

Tevez has won the championship in every country where he has played - Argentina, Brazil and England. After rejecting the chance to stay at Manchester United, the explosive little striker signed a five-year contract and then explained his reasons for teaming up with Mark Hughes.

'The manager and the owners are very ambitious and that became clear to me the first time we spoke,' he said.
Carlos Tevez

Shooting star: Tevez is convinced his goals can fire City to glory this season

'This is the chance to be involved from the start, an opportunity to help build a special experience.'

Tevez - three times the South American Footballer of the Year, surpassing Diego Maradona and Pele - spoke to Sportsmail as he prepared to return to the city where he won two titles with United.

'I hope to win many more trophies with City,' he said.

'There is a great feeling of excitement around the club. Look at the quality of the players who have been signed and the prospect of other top-quality players coming, too. Things are happening at this club.
Carlos Tevez

Hammer hit: Carlos Tevez almost singlehandedly kept West Ham in the Premier League in 2007

'The owners made it clear to me that they will be doing everything in their power to make this an extraordinary club to play for. I look forward to being part of that experience.

'Mark Hughes played in my position for some of the biggest clubs in the world and understands the demands and pressure of playing as a striker. I look forward to learning from him.'

Tevez insisted the decision to join City is 'mine and mine alone'.

He thanked his mentor Kia Joorabchian and added: 'This is a new adventure for me and I thank the people who have made this possible.

'My record of success speaks for itself. From helping West Ham to avoid relegation to helping Manchester United to two Champions League finals in two seasons. That's not a bad record!'

Tevez also says his scoring record stands up to close scrutiny and added: 'When I get the chance to play, I am confident that it can lead to goals, for me and for my team-mates. I am a team player who can score goals. I know my responsibilities.'

Chelsea were also keen on Tevez, with new manager Carlo Ancelotti bombarding the player with calls, but he said: 'I am thrilled to be a City player. I can't wait for the new season to begin.'
Carlos Tevez

Championing the cause: The Argentine ace helped United win back-to-back Premier league titles and the Champions League in 2008 against Chelsea

Manager Mark Hughes told the club website, www.mcfc.co.uk: 'Carlos is a player of the highest class who possesses all the attributes that will help drive this club forward.'

He added: 'He is not only outstanding technically but he is a reliable goalscorer and someone who will contribute fully to the team ethic. He gives us another exciting attacking dimension.'

good fuckin riddance

Wibble · 14th July 2009, 01:32

I'm glad that is over.

He is a City player now to anyone who wants to discuss him can do so in the football forum.

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13th July 2009, 22:04	#5441 (permalink)
Heinzesight Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 723	scored some vital goals, but he's at the right level now at City, fuck him and his dummy and his shit hair.

13th July 2009, 22:31	#5442 (permalink)
reddevilcanada First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11,248	Good riddance. He makes Heinze look decent, fecking Judas. Those who booed Fergie's decision to take him off on the day we won #18 must be a bit pissed off now.

13th July 2009, 22:54	#5444 (permalink)
Feedingseagulls First Team Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Beyond Good & Evil Posts: 11,293	Re 'the offer'... What Fergie said today rather matches a remark he made during the season (iirc) in which he said Tevez had been offered a 'good deal/package'. This turned out to be during a period in which Utd and Kia had reached no agreement on a purchase price (Gill still feeling the figure was 'toppy'). So the remark I'm sure I made at the time still stands... SAF may have offered personal terms to Tevez - but given that nothing was moving on the purchase itself this didn't really amount to much in terms of resolving his situation. Thus - as far as Kia/MSI were concerned, no firm offer had yet been made. Of course, if one of the so-called journalists had had the gumption to ask if this 'offer' concerned just personal terms or whether it included matching the asked-for puchase price, we might be in a clearer situation. Re 'money the only motive'... The apparent ill-feeling towards SAF that Tevez seems to be expressing is not a characteristic we would expect for a money-motivated separation. IMO.

13th July 2009, 23:47	#5448 (permalink)
MrMarcello No Lifer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 31,943	Clearly a money move. I mean come on, City? Obvious. What other club was going to offer him 150k per week and pay the asking price for MSI to release him? Can't really fault him though, from a business standpoint.

14th July 2009, 00:11	#5451 (permalink)
BahamaRed Legend Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 13,370	He's gone. History. Cnut.

14th July 2009, 00:14	#5452 (permalink)
olesmyhero Emmy Moses Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 4000+ miles west of old trafford Posts: 23,461	Rereading those comments makes me glad we got rid(well as much as one can get rid of a player they don't own).

14th July 2009, 00:17	#5454 (permalink)
The Law of Denis Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Europa. Posts: 3,944	I wish we had him to kick the crap out of Tevez during the derby.

14th July 2009, 00:30	#5455 (permalink)
Number7 Ret's Slave Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I am very enjoy Posts: 28,165	He's in for a bit suprise if he thinks he'll get a good reception at Old Trafford

14th July 2009, 01:08	#5460 (permalink)
sammsky1 First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Behind my  Posts: 10,765	where are all those Berbatov vs Tevez Threads. Please lets revisit them and expose all those numpties who defended this cu.nt. Been following football quite a long time. Cant think of any who are more cun.tsih then Tevez. Makes Sol Cambell and Cashey Cole look like saints. Im just so glad I never fell for it. Those of you who chanted 'sign him up' and sided with him over SAF should be ashamed of yourselves.

14th July 2009, 01:16	#5461 (permalink)
Walrus Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,195	ive heard some random talk about Tevez having fallouts with his previous managers as well, before he came here, has anyone got any useful info regarding that? Second, speaking realistically, there is nothing wrong with cheering for a player when he plays for you. We dont all have the gift of foresight, and im sure if the fans had known what was to come, they wouldnt be cheering for Tevez. Thats how life works though, hindsight is a great thing.

14th July 2009, 01:27	#5463 (permalink)
shane Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 691	CARLOS TEVEZ: My goals can capture title for Manchester City http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo....html?ITO=1490 EXCLUSIVE By Lee Clayton Last updated at 1:01 AM on 14th July 2009 Carlos Tevez signed for Manchester City last night in a £25million transfer and insisted he can help take them to the Barclays Premier League title. Tevez has won the championship in every country where he has played - Argentina, Brazil and England. After rejecting the chance to stay at Manchester United, the explosive little striker signed a five-year contract and then explained his reasons for teaming up with Mark Hughes. 'The manager and the owners are very ambitious and that became clear to me the first time we spoke,' he said. Carlos Tevez Shooting star: Tevez is convinced his goals can fire City to glory this season 'This is the chance to be involved from the start, an opportunity to help build a special experience.' Tevez - three times the South American Footballer of the Year, surpassing Diego Maradona and Pele - spoke to Sportsmail as he prepared to return to the city where he won two titles with United. 'I hope to win many more trophies with City,' he said. 'There is a great feeling of excitement around the club. Look at the quality of the players who have been signed and the prospect of other top-quality players coming, too. Things are happening at this club. Carlos Tevez Hammer hit: Carlos Tevez almost singlehandedly kept West Ham in the Premier League in 2007 'The owners made it clear to me that they will be doing everything in their power to make this an extraordinary club to play for. I look forward to being part of that experience. 'Mark Hughes played in my position for some of the biggest clubs in the world and understands the demands and pressure of playing as a striker. I look forward to learning from him.' Tevez insisted the decision to join City is 'mine and mine alone'. He thanked his mentor Kia Joorabchian and added: 'This is a new adventure for me and I thank the people who have made this possible. 'My record of success speaks for itself. From helping West Ham to avoid relegation to helping Manchester United to two Champions League finals in two seasons. That's not a bad record!' Tevez also says his scoring record stands up to close scrutiny and added: 'When I get the chance to play, I am confident that it can lead to goals, for me and for my team-mates. I am a team player who can score goals. I know my responsibilities.' Chelsea were also keen on Tevez, with new manager Carlo Ancelotti bombarding the player with calls, but he said: 'I am thrilled to be a City player. I can't wait for the new season to begin.' Carlos Tevez Championing the cause: The Argentine ace helped United win back-to-back Premier league titles and the Champions League in 2008 against Chelsea Manager Mark Hughes told the club website, www.mcfc.co.uk: 'Carlos is a player of the highest class who possesses all the attributes that will help drive this club forward.' He added: 'He is not only outstanding technically but he is a reliable goalscorer and someone who will contribute fully to the team ethic. He gives us another exciting attacking dimension.' good fuckin riddance

14th July 2009, 01:32	#5464 (permalink)
Wibble Ingadus Speramus Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Centre Back Posts: 49,876	I'm glad that is over. He is a City player now to anyone who wants to discuss him can do so in the football forum.