Arsenal clinch deal for Lyon dazzler Ben Arfa

JazzG · 25th June 2008, 18:19

Hleb is a lot quicker than people think, problem with him is he doesn't use it as often as he should. Against your lot he left Evra for dead in one move and not many will do that. He really isn't as direct as he should be.

Thing with Nasri is he is much more willing to take a man on and much more willing to have a shot which is why he should eventually surpass Hleb, Hleb really doesn't do his talent enough justice with his performances.

Brwned · 25th June 2008, 18:26

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Originally Posted by JazzG

Hleb is a lot quicker than people think, problem with him is he doesn't use it as often as he should. Against your lot he left Evra for dead in one move and not many will do that. He really isn't as direct as he should be.

Thing with Nasri is he is much more willing to take a man on and much more willing to have a shot which is why he should eventually surpass Hleb, Hleb really doesn't do his talent enough justice with his performances.

I thought that might be the case, I always looked at him as someone with just average speed.

Agreed about Nasri, he should fit in perfectly and after a year or so he will become a much better player for you than Hleb ever was, and he'll compliment your team perfectly. Him and Rosicky on the wings would bring you a fair amount of goals and plenty of creativity, along with Fabregas.

cesc's_mullet · 26th June 2008, 06:24

Here's a fantastic post from AL, about this:

Looking on it from the outside, I can only speculate that Marseille and Arsenal came to an agreement about the two players. Arsenal can have Nasri if they didn't move for Ben Arfa.

Arsenal get Nasri, Marseille have Ben Arfa and Lyon get rid of a problem player which will keep Benzema and a few others happy.

Let Marseille have Ben Arfa, in my opinion, he's only there for one season if he does well and if he implodes, then Arsenal will have saved themselves alot of grief. His attitude is dreadful and he badly needs to grow up.

Imagine if we signed him and he didn't play immediately, how would he react?

How would the other players react to a player who seems only interested in his own game? Plus the French/Francophone players know all about him and his attitude so they'd already have their opinions formed about him.

I don't doubt his talent but there are question marks about him.

Next season will decide his future one way or another. If he screws it up, he'll soon find himself doing circus tricks for some nothing club in France, Spain or where-ever.

peterstorey · 26th June 2008, 09:57

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Originally Posted by JazzG

Hleb is a lot quicker than people think, problem with him is he doesn't use it as often as he should. He really isn't as direct as he should be.

People persistently under rate Hleb's contribution because he doesn't score or register very high on that crap stat 'assists'. He was fundamental to our performance last season and will be a big loss if he goes.

peterstorey · 26th June 2008, 09:59

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Originally Posted by cesc's_mullet

Here's a fantastic post from AL, about this:

Looking on it from the outside, I can only speculate that Marseille and Arsenal came to an agreement about the two players. Arsenal can have Nasri if they didn't move for Ben Arfa. .

I doubt we ever wanted Ben Arfa, he's been playing more as a classic winger which we don't deploy. Plus, I don't think he's that good.

Lawman · 26th June 2008, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Red Dreams

you dont know your football then....

the moment I saw Ronaldo in that first game, I knew we had a rough gem on our hands....I thought we had a future Ronaldinho.....but he is better...

Ronaldinho on form a few seasons ago was easily one of the greatest players to have played the game? Ronaldo better??? Yes maybe this season but not overall! Nowhere near.

25th June 2008, 18:19	#121 (permalink)
JazzG Resident Arse. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,574	Hleb is a lot quicker than people think, problem with him is he doesn't use it as often as he should. Against your lot he left Evra for dead in one move and not many will do that. He really isn't as direct as he should be. Thing with Nasri is he is much more willing to take a man on and much more willing to have a shot which is why he should eventually surpass Hleb, Hleb really doesn't do his talent enough justice with his performances.

26th June 2008, 06:24	#123 (permalink)
cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ... i didn't park my car in here Posts: 7,866	Here's a fantastic post from AL, about this: Looking on it from the outside, I can only speculate that Marseille and Arsenal came to an agreement about the two players. Arsenal can have Nasri if they didn't move for Ben Arfa. Arsenal get Nasri, Marseille have Ben Arfa and Lyon get rid of a problem player which will keep Benzema and a few others happy. Let Marseille have Ben Arfa, in my opinion, he's only there for one season if he does well and if he implodes, then Arsenal will have saved themselves alot of grief. His attitude is dreadful and he badly needs to grow up. Imagine if we signed him and he didn't play immediately, how would he react? How would the other players react to a player who seems only interested in his own game? Plus the French/Francophone players know all about him and his attitude so they'd already have their opinions formed about him. I don't doubt his talent but there are question marks about him. Next season will decide his future one way or another. If he screws it up, he'll soon find himself doing circus tricks for some nothing club in France, Spain or where-ever.