Arsenal in talks to sign Per Mertesacker

Persian-Fred · 30th August 2011, 14:06

Very big, got a head on him. But he's slow, even for a CB. Will improve what they have (especially if it means Squillaci doesn't play regularly) but he won't set the PL alight.

davisjw · 30th August 2011, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Siorac

He's got nowhere near the physique of a Sol Campbell.

I don't mean literally, I meant that they are both very physical defenders. I misspoke with the word physique.

Most great CB pairings have one that reads the game and one that acts as the physical partner: Rio and Vidic, Terry and Carvalho, Puyol and Pique, etc. The world class ones offer a bit of both (Vidic can now read the game excellently).

Arsenal already have readers and quick CBs - they need a physical one. That's why I think Samba would of been great for them. It's all about balance in my eyes.

MikeUpNorth · 30th August 2011, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Grinner

What do you reckon about Mertesacker?

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Sack of merde.

It's not been a good summer in the Storey household.

Sarni · 30th August 2011, 15:11

Good for them that they are building from the back, bad for them that they are looking at average players in Santos and Mertesacker only because they are available at fair prices.

RDCR07 · 30th August 2011, 15:36

He is going to have a medical soon.

Devilton · 30th August 2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by davisjw

Absolutely surprised by all of the negativity. He has as much pace as Rio and is a beast in the 18 yard box. He's absolutely what they need - power and physique. They already have the speedster CBs and the game reading ones, what they don't have is a Sol Campbell-type CB.

As much pace as Rio....

Rio may not have the same pace he did in his pomp, but even now he'd beat Per in a foot race. Hell, he could give him a 5 yard start and still cover the same distance. Per will be good in the box against the crosses Arsenal are susceptible too, but he's slow as molasses and will suffer if Arsenal play that high line.

Grinner · 30th August 2011, 17:43

I expect he's being brought in to play against the likes of Stoke & Bolton where we need more presence than speed. It gives us options. Kos/Verm will be the pairing against a more pacy attack. I hear he has injury problems though...great!

Per Mertesacker - Official Website

cheesy!

Sean_RedDevil · 7th September 2011, 19:19

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Mertesacker, who cleared his locker in Bremen today, on Arsenal's current position: "Since last year, I'm familiar with relegation battle."

Ouch

wr8_utd · 7th September 2011, 19:23

"Rooney (the hat trick) is not the reason I signed for Arsenal" was pretty funny too.

Pogue Mahone · 14th September 2011, 13:42

Early days blah blah blah but I thought he lived up to the "sack of merde" nickname last night. Senderos with longer hair.

Brophs · 14th September 2011, 13:46

Their tactics in the first half were the exact opposite of what suits him. They were playing a stupidly high line and Koscielny isn't nearly a good enough reader of the game to sweep up in behind.

marjen · 14th September 2011, 13:58

Koscielny ALWAYS tries to steal in infront of the striker and intercept the ball, either with his head or his feet. Mertesacker is incredibly slow. Couple those facts with Arsene Wengers preferred high back line, and you'll get a catastrophy. It's what I said when I heard they've signed him.

Even against Swansea he looked terribly out of his depth when they ran at him with pace, and at Arsenal that's the kind of situation a CB will be exposed to a lot.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 22nd January 2012, 18:22

He was brilliant today

Randall Flagg · 22nd January 2012, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He was brilliant today

He was done for pace on more than one occasion and still looks clumsy

Poor signing. Kosieny looked the far better defender today

Sunny Jim · 22nd January 2012, 18:32

Kos has been a very good defender this season. SackofMerte was clumsy and hes really slow.

prateik · 22nd January 2012, 18:34

Thought he had a good game.
The commentators were making it sound like he was brilliant. He wasnt. He didnt have a stinker. Expectations shouldnt be THAT low.

Guy Incognito · 22nd January 2012, 18:36

He didn't look that out of sorts I thought.

adexkola · 22nd January 2012, 18:37

He was good. Kos was very good though.

Jaap · 22nd January 2012, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Sunny Jim

Kos has been a very good defender this season. SackofMerte was clumsy and hes really slow.

Thought Mertesacker had a good game - most probably his best in an Arsenal shirt.

Edmeiste · 22nd January 2012, 19:04

a decent game at best. Welbeck almost made him pay for his lack of pace but I didn't see anything that he did that was remarkable today. Solid performance.

Cantona07 · 22nd January 2012, 19:08

MOM for Arse

ArmchairCritic · 22nd January 2012, 19:28

Got out jumped by Rooney for one header, don't rate him at all, he probably had his best game for them today too. Lacks pace and isn't commanding at all for his height, he reads the game well-ish but he's not what Arsenal need.

Sean_RedDevil · 22nd January 2012, 19:35

He was very good today.

Of course he lacks pace but that is nothing new.

SharkyMcShark · 17th February 2012, 15:50

Out "long term" after having ankle surgery today

Sunny Jim · 17th February 2012, 15:52

what happened to him? i saw the incident in the Sun der land game but there was no mention of the cause of the problem.

Liam147 · 17th February 2012, 15:53

In other news, Arsenal's odds of a top four finish are drastically shortened.

prateik · 17th February 2012, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Sunny Jim

what happened to him? i saw the incident in the Sun der land game but there was no mention of the cause of the problem.

Ligament damage I guess.

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Originally Posted by Liam147

In other news, Arsenal's odds of a top four finish are drastically shortened.

They still have Squillaci...

Pogue Mahone · 17th February 2012, 16:16

I decided he was shit early on in his Arsenal career and haven't seen enough to change my mind since.

That said, the bloke at arseblogger reckons he's the only defender they have who complements Vermaelen or Koscielny. They both like to attack the ball and neither of them is much cop at organising the rest of the back four, so are a terrible combination. Based on last night's game, you can see where he's coming from.

I only wish I could take more pleasure in Arsenal's impending failure to qualify for next season's CL. The fact it's a big boost to Liverpool's chances is eating me up inside.

marjen · 17th February 2012, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I decided he was shit early on in his Arsenal career and haven't seen enough to change my mind since.

That said, the bloke at arseblogger reckons he's the only defender they have who complements Vermaelen or Koscielny. They both like to attack the ball and neither of them is much cop at organising the rest of the back four, so are a terrible combination. Based on last night's game, you can see where he's coming from.

I only wish I could take more pleasure in Arsenal's impending failure to qualify for next season's CL. The fact it's a big boost to Liverpool's chances is eating me up inside.

I kind of see where that arseblogger-dude comes from. Koscielny and Vermaelen are both prone to attack a ball they're never going to get.

However, the idea of a covering defender with the pace of Laurent Blanc as of today, in a team playing a high back-line.... Well let's just say it's unfair to expect anything else of Mertesacker, who admittedly has struggled to cope with the tempo in the PL.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 17th February 2012, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

He was done for pace on more than one occasion and still looks clumsy

Poor signing. Kosieny looked the far better defender today

No way

marjen · 17th February 2012, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

No way

Out of the two of them, Koscielny has been so much better than Mertesacker this season it's unbelievable. On the evidence of this season's worth of football, there's just no contest. Any Arsenal-supporting guy will be able to tell you that.

And there's no doubt Kos is more suited to their style of football. He's quicker, more aggressive, and a better ball-playing CB. Also, for a big guy, Mertesacker really is shite in the air.

Sarni · 17th February 2012, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I decided he was shit early on in his Arsenal career and haven't seen enough to change my mind since.

That said, the bloke at arseblogger reckons he's the only defender they have who complements Vermaelen or Koscielny. They both like to attack the ball and neither of them is much cop at organising the rest of the back four, so are a terrible combination. Based on last night's game, you can see where he's coming from.

I only wish I could take more pleasure in Arsenal's impending failure to qualify for next season's CL. The fact it's a big boost to Liverpool's chances is eating me up inside.

It's between Chelsea and Arsenal, Liverpool will have no say in this battle, they're crap.

Aint gota Kalou · 17th February 2012, 16:47

He's pretty shite overall but at least he gave them something which they lacked. A tall CB with experience. Plus from looking at it their 2 CBs in Koscielny and Vermalaen aren't a natural pairing. (both aggressive players who are relatively short)

He'll be a miss more because of the type of player he is rather than how good he is.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 17th February 2012, 16:53

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Originally Posted by marjen

Out of the two of them, Koscielny has been so much better than Mertesacker this season it's unbelievable. On the evidence of this season's worth of football, there's just no contest. .......

What does that have to do with the Arsenal vs United game my post was referring to?

marjen · 17th February 2012, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

What does that have to do with the Arsenal vs United game my post was referring to?

Still, Koscielny looked the far better defender vs United. No doubt about it.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 17th February 2012, 19:08

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Originally Posted by marjen

Still, Koscielny looked the far better defender vs United. No doubt about it.

There is plenty of doubt about it. Mertacasker played better than any Arsenal player against us. Problem is folks on here and in the media are so used to him doing badly, that only a few noticed. That's how they failed to notice Koscielny costing Arsenal the match rather than Mertesacker.

x42bn6 · 18th February 2012, 01:15

Arsenal will miss him - because it means Djourou will get games.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 18th February 2012, 05:10

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Originally Posted by x42bn6

Arsenal will miss him - because it means Djourou will get games.

TBF if Djourou returns to his best form it could be a blessing in disguise.

Varun_Utd · 18th February 2012, 05:18

Is djourou even that good potentially chief? From the times i've seen him play, looks utterly lost.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 18th February 2012, 05:28

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Originally Posted by Varun_Utd

Is djourou even that good potentially chief? From the times i've seen him play, looks utterly lost.

I think he is. Injuries have disrupted his development alot. But In the world cup especially I felt he showed how good he potentially can be. Last season too for example his return led to Arsenal best period of form during the campaign and he was really ace for them. Right now though he seems to be going though the type of crisis of confidence Evans had last season.

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30th August 2011, 14:06	#41 (permalink)
Persian-Fred Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chelsea. Come at me bitches! Posts: 7,275	Very big, got a head on him. But he's slow, even for a CB. Will improve what they have (especially if it means Squillaci doesn't play regularly) but he won't set the PL alight.

30th August 2011, 15:11	#44 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 21,630	Good for them that they are building from the back, bad for them that they are looking at average players in Santos and Mertesacker only because they are available at fair prices.

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RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Special One on the Great One: "I don't call him Alex or Sir or Mister. I call him Boss!" Posts: 11,328	He is going to have a medical soon.

30th August 2011, 17:43	#47 (permalink)
Grinner fat gutted, hairy shouldered stinky arse Join Date: May 2003 Location: Gumbroski draws mud.... Posts: 21,569	I expect he's being brought in to play against the likes of Stoke & Bolton where we need more presence than speed. It gives us options. Kos/Verm will be the pairing against a more pacy attack. I hear he has injury problems though...great! Per Mertesacker - Official Website cheesy!

7th September 2011, 19:23	#49 (permalink)
wr8_utd 1st wr8_muppetry Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 25,317	"Rooney (the hat trick) is not the reason I signed for Arsenal" was pretty funny too.

14th September 2011, 13:42	#50 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,524	Early days blah blah blah but I thought he lived up to the "sack of merde" nickname last night. Senderos with longer hair.

14th September 2011, 13:46	#51 (permalink)
Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,715	Their tactics in the first half were the exact opposite of what suits him. They were playing a stupidly high line and Koscielny isn't nearly a good enough reader of the game to sweep up in behind.

14th September 2011, 13:58	#52 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,629	Koscielny ALWAYS tries to steal in infront of the striker and intercept the ball, either with his head or his feet. Mertesacker is incredibly slow. Couple those facts with Arsene Wengers preferred high back line, and you'll get a catastrophy. It's what I said when I heard they've signed him. Even against Swansea he looked terribly out of his depth when they ran at him with pace, and at Arsenal that's the kind of situation a CB will be exposed to a lot.

22nd January 2012, 18:22	#53 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 39,443	He was brilliant today

22nd January 2012, 18:32	#55 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 14,700	Kos has been a very good defender this season. SackofMerte was clumsy and hes really slow.

22nd January 2012, 18:34	#56 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,031	Thought he had a good game. The commentators were making it sound like he was brilliant. He wasnt. He didnt have a stinker. Expectations shouldnt be THAT low.

22nd January 2012, 18:36	#57 (permalink)
Guy Incognito Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,768	He didn't look that out of sorts I thought.

22nd January 2012, 18:37	#58 (permalink)
adexkola First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. Onwards and upwards. "Take me home, United Road." Posts: 9,810	He was good. Kos was very good though.

22nd January 2012, 19:04	#60 (permalink)
Edmeiste First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In a land far far away....playing Fifa Posts: 6,963	a decent game at best. Welbeck almost made him pay for his lack of pace but I didn't see anything that he did that was remarkable today. Solid performance.

22nd January 2012, 19:08	#61 (permalink)
Cantona07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Most Games are played with ONE Ball but the REAL game is played with TWO Posts: 1,442	MOM for Arse

22nd January 2012, 19:28	#62 (permalink)
ArmchairCritic First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. Posts: 6,390	Got out jumped by Rooney for one header, don't rate him at all, he probably had his best game for them today too. Lacks pace and isn't commanding at all for his height, he reads the game well-ish but he's not what Arsenal need.

22nd January 2012, 19:35	#63 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	He was very good today. Of course he lacks pace but that is nothing new.

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SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,589	Out "long term" after having ankle surgery today

17th February 2012, 15:52	#65 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 14,700	what happened to him? i saw the incident in the Sun der land game but there was no mention of the cause of the problem.

17th February 2012, 15:53	#66 (permalink)
Liam147 Yoko Ono Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: "It aint the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." Posts: 8,784	In other news, Arsenal's odds of a top four finish are drastically shortened.

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Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,524	I decided he was shit early on in his Arsenal career and haven't seen enough to change my mind since. That said, the bloke at arseblogger reckons he's the only defender they have who complements Vermaelen or Koscielny. They both like to attack the ball and neither of them is much cop at organising the rest of the back four, so are a terrible combination. Based on last night's game, you can see where he's coming from. I only wish I could take more pleasure in Arsenal's impending failure to qualify for next season's CL. The fact it's a big boost to Liverpool's chances is eating me up inside.

17th February 2012, 16:47	#73 (permalink)
Aint gota Kalou Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,472	He's pretty shite overall but at least he gave them something which they lacked. A tall CB with experience. Plus from looking at it their 2 CBs in Koscielny and Vermalaen aren't a natural pairing. (both aggressive players who are relatively short) He'll be a miss more because of the type of player he is rather than how good he is.

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x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 西田麻衣の谷間. Being a nerd, geek and virgin Posts: 17,358	Arsenal will miss him - because it means Djourou will get games.

18th February 2012, 05:18	#79 (permalink)
Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	Is djourou even that good potentially chief? From the times i've seen him play, looks utterly lost.