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18th December 2009, 23:01
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Ben Arfa in contact with Man Utd ?
According to the French newspaper La Provence, one of Ben Arfa's agent met Manchester United officials this afternoom in England :
Mercato : Manchester United veut Ben Arfa ! | La Provence Marseilles has already officially stated that he can leave this winter - they bought him something like 12M€, and he's been shit all the way long since leaving Lyon in June 2008. Please, tell me this is bullshit, this guy is a complete cnut... No football brain, if any brain at all 
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18th December 2009, 23:03
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18th December 2009, 23:04
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his raw talent is astronomical. he runs and dribbles like ronaldo IMO. has a decent physique/strength as well. maybe a slight more frustrating than nani, but also more willing to take on a man.
i'd swap him for nani and see if fergie can work his magic on ben arfa..because it sure hasn't worked on nani. |
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18th December 2009, 23:05
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there´s a mountain in scotland called ben arthur, maybe the united players are going on a bonding session up a hill??
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18th December 2009, 23:07
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18th December 2009, 23:11
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18th December 2009, 23:12
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I hope you never EVER praise Obertan after such a statement Ben Arfa = Obertan², would be a great buy for United but apprently we're more keen on Gibson & Cleverley |
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18th December 2009, 23:16
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18th December 2009, 23:17
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He is clearly better than Nani
when the other team has the ball alot of attackers tend to fuck all, my problem with an attacking player is when they dont do shit when there team has the ball, like berbatov most of the time |
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18th December 2009, 23:18
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No need for the pissy remark about Gibson and Cleverley. Ljajic isn't joining us, get over it. |
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18th December 2009, 23:19
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Obertan likes to carry the ball but not in a bad way. |
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18th December 2009, 23:23
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18th December 2009, 23:24
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oh there goes the teacher of french football who, after having seen Obertan play 3 games with United, knows exactly what his features are talking of a pissy remark, the fact you failed to grasp the irony in my remark about Top posting the Beckham gif is horrendous enough in itself, but attempting to take it up to make me look stupid goes beyond the scope of vocabulary stop trying to teach me stuff, you called up an imaginary line-up to prove me wrong on the Vidic-Evans debate, get over it. |
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18th December 2009, 23:26
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18th December 2009, 23:26
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18th December 2009, 23:35
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Woe be it anyone who questions the opinion of our European football expert who watches every game of every player we've ever signed or may be scouting! We are not allowed an opinion! |
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18th December 2009, 23:35
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Obertan is not selfish, he simply doesn't know how to defend - I read a recent interview with him where he said he loved to play with Evra as he tells him what to do in defense - I reckon no one's ever really bothered to teach him as he's so great on the ball. Ben Arfa always puts himself ahead of the team, and it seems like he thinks it's beneath him to do any work which doesn't result in personal glory - Obertan seems like the opposite; a very sensible guy who doesn't mind getting an assist rather than a goal. |
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18th December 2009, 23:46
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An opinion stems from an objective reflection, what you do is take every single post I make and look for a counter-argument. Maybe the second or third time it is motivated by thought, probably the 51st or 52nd time it is just bitterness. You were distraught at seeing me promoted before you for allegedly talking rubbish in the newbies (while I only transcripted what Vidic stated in an interview, that is he had trouble with lunchtime games) and never quite shook it off, especially when it appeared you also happened to have erratic moments and arrogant imaginary arguments. Quote:
Obertan's psychological issues were underlined by both Blanc and Gourcuff, his past two managers, but he shook them off for a bigger cause upon his arrival at United. Both sustained akin criticism from their managers so I can hardly see how Ben Arfa is "worse" than Obertan whatsoever. And I am adamant Ben Arfa would also manage to be more altruistic at United if a stroke of luck akin to Obertan's occurred to him, and with even more style as he supersedes him in every aspect of the game. |
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18th December 2009, 23:50
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I don't remember reading about Obertan getting into fights with team mates and generally making an arse out of himself in public, which is well-documented with Ben Arfa. Obertan just seems a lot more intelligent than Ben Arfa, even though it's a superficial claim without knowing any of them personally. Ben Arfa might be the more talented of the two, but he needs to change his attitude of he's ever going to be as good as he seems to think he is. |
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18th December 2009, 23:51
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18th December 2009, 23:53
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That said Ben Arfa's upside is absolutely astronomical if United are kicking Nani to the curb why not go after him |
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18th December 2009, 23:55
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18th December 2009, 23:58
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Ben Arfa is less focused in the same proportions as he is more gifted than Obertan, and all he needs is for someone to acknowledge his talent (namely bring him in a club of United's stature) for him to finally step down and sacrifice himself for the bigger cause that is Manchester. Quote:
The only obsession I sense here is yours towards me, hence I cannot stay focused on the points I discuss and need to rummage in my mind what on Earth could elicit such a strange behavioural pattern on your behalf, hence my initial contribution going astray. I ask you to stop, so that both of us can carry on in our lives, normally, like civilized people. I believe life has plenty to offer and, as the saying goes, one lost, ten found. |
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19th December 2009, 00:04
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He only has one guy to blame and that's himself, and the sooner he realises that and changes his attitude, the sooner he can reach the potential he obviously has. |
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19th December 2009, 00:05
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You're only young once, you can be immature f'ever (lost a bet)
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We seem to have a fair few players with "potential" but I'd rather now see us get an established winger if we're going to get one. |
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